Nope, he's a nut job...

Dude sealed his own fate...

Why is the question I have. I understand the double standard that anyone can use the bible as butt wipe and no one cares (some cheer) but blow dust on the Quran and you die. How about trying teaching respect for all. Dumbass will get what comes to him.

He is causing a whole lot of hell.... Man of God? I think not.

Terry Jones is likely loony, but pardon me while I stick up for his right to free speech. While people are condemning Jones left and right for offending Muslims, I'm wondering where have all the defenders of the right to free speech and expression gone. Of course, our Constitutional right has limits (i.e., you can't yell fire in a crowded theater when there is no fire, thereby creating a hazard). But Jones isn't hurting a flea; he burned a book made of paper; offending some religious whackos who are extraordinarily thin-skinned.

Note to all theists, atheists, and agnostics: We are a free speech, free expression society. By definition we tolerate the speech we hate. We don't have to like it or understand it, but we accept it. Period. That includes Muslims tolerating well-intentioned or even hateful Koran burners. If they can't tolerate that without resorting to violent and murderous protest, F 'em, and waste all the low-life b@sturds, and send them to their 72 virgins in the sky.

If Obama has a hair on his @ss, and some retard Muslim issues a Fatwa on Jones over the Koran burning, Obama would issue him a free speech lesson in the form of a USA Tomahawk drilled into his doorstep. IMHO, of course.

Salmo has a low opinion of censorship, Muslim or any other flavor.

Sg

Amen to that! Salmo is just mad that instead of pouring our hearts out to a whack-job, we express ourselves. This guy may have the freedoms that we all have, but tell that to the dead UN guys families... and tell that to our troops Salmo!

Gik,

Listen up Numbnutz. Here's what I'd say to our troops: "You guys are the Giant Green Killing Machine. The only reasonable purpose for being in Afghanistan is to lay waste and kill as many Taliban and Al Qaida as possible. While you're at it, if you can kill any and all who are associated with killing UN members or families because of their intolerance of American freedom of speech, double combat bonuses all around."

Lest there be any misunderstanding, I'm a pacifist, a peacenik. But when war is called for, I believe in laying such massive waste that the perps, or what's left of them, won't be capable of waging any offensive against the US for a century or so.

If the US doesn't stand for freedom, including our Constitutional freedom of speech, just what the h3ll do we stand for? Are you a radical Muslim sympathizer or something?

Sg

Nice try Lipshitz! I agree with you about one thing here, to lay waste to those responsible! that's all... God holds every man accountable for his own actions, this whacko will get his in the end, for the potential harm he is bringing to our families!!! and in Family I mean Troops you Hippie! No sympathizing for Radical Muslims here... just worry for my family abroad..... Get it yet!! this guy was asked not to do it, and he will have no punishment for what he has inadvertently caused until judgement day..... hows that for USA freedom!

Freedom of speech doesn't apply here.
It's the shouting fire in the theater rule.

This whack job is aiding and abetting the enemy.
Ask Petraeus .

DD,

How so? Burning a Koran is not analogous to shouting fire in the crowded theater (when there is no fire). Falsely raising alarm could hurt someone. Burning a GD Koran is burning paper! Burning a burn that one owns and that is not the property of another is not a crime. No one is physically harmed by the action. Being offended by the action is purely and totally an emotional reaction, and therefore doesn't pass the false shout of "fire" test. Emotional zealots who get wound up over book-burning by loony Jones and go out and murder innocents commit crimes and therefore are criminals.

Patraeus is wrong. He's sacrificing a fundamental principle of the U.S. Constitution for the convenience of avoiding the wrath of emotional reactionaries. If you're willing to cave in on this, what else of the Constitution are you willing to cave in on? Again, if the US doesn't stand for its Constitutional principles, exactly WTF do we stand for?

(BTW, wasn't this the famous Patrick Henry quote from the Constitutional Convention - "I disagree with what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it?")

Sg

I'm with SG on this one. While the guy probably has mental issues, it is his right to burn a Quran. If they Muslims can't handle it, they can go to hell.

We can't pick and choose our rights depending on the current sentiment of the American people. All speech, whether it's vocal, body language, or an act of burning a book are protected by our Constitution.

Islamists learned several years ago that they can do and say whatever they about Europeans, Christianity, etc. and they can get away with it. If they have mass-gatherings in downtown London proclaiming they are going to start a Jihad against British, no one bats an eye. If someone publishes anything bad about Islam, they will kill them (Dutch cartoon of Allah).

Christianity, Islam and Judaism ruined the world. If people of European ancestry went back to worshiping Odin, Thor, Freya and the rest of the crew, we'd all be much better off.

One of many great post's from Salmo g.

I'm with Salmo on this. But I don’t see any issue with freedom of speech. No one told him he couldn’t say or do what he wanted. They asked him to use restraint and he did not. Wack jobs often hear the voice of God telling them what to do, and God always trumps common sense. But there is, to my knowledge, no attempt to punish him for exercising free speech. Freedom of speech includes many stupid things such as flag and bible burning. But to be really free we cannot limit speech.

I understand your position but argue that in this instance, this idiot needs to STFU.
We are up against a shrewd, unconventional enemy that knows how to use these events to gain strength.
The damage has been done, but hopefully peer pressure will come to bear and this guy will see the error of his ways.

The choice is to STFU or more deaths of innocents.
I choose STFU.

Heard a Muslim the other night say that burning the Bible is different than burning the Koran as the Bible was written by man and the Koran is the word of God.

Shouldn't be too hard to find Christians with the exact opposite view. They are lucky to have been born here, where we have the one true religion.

So his sky fairy book was better than the other sky fairy book?

Good to know.

They're both written by man.

He has every Constitutional right in the book to burn the Quran if he wants...but hopefully enough people will exercise their Constitutional right to free speech by telling him what a dumbass fraud he is, and anyone who supports him, too, for that matter.

Fish on...

Todd

They might hate us more?

DD,

I disagree with what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it.

As for me, I'll never choose to STFU. I don't care how shrewd or unconventional they are. This peacenik only chooses war when some @sshole threatens to bring it on for my unwillingness to compromise on the Bill of Rights or otherwise threatens my security. In which case, unleash the Tomahawks! Put those planes that you've been displaying in your sig line to defending what the US stands for! Let Terry Jones burn whatever he wants as long as it doesn't belong to someone else!

Sg