why not replace it with a joint? had to do it 2many...

I am as guilty if not more so when it comes to after work beers....

so?

fruit, vegetables, and whole unprocessed grains are some of the healthiest and least calorie dense foods out there. certainly not something that causes obesity, diabetes, or heart disease.

let's not forget that unlike sugar, whole foods have more than carbs. they have tons of vitamins, minerals, phytochemicals along with protein (33% of brocolli's calories are from protein for example) and small amounts of fat (less than 10%). not only do whole carbs contain all that good stuff they also have lots of fiber. the mayo clinic says this about fiber "dietary fiber — found mainly in fruits, vegetables, whole grains and legumes — is probably best known for its ability to prevent or relieve constipation. But fiber can provide other health benefits as well, such as lowering your risk of diabetes and heart disease."

the problem with so much of the carbophobia is based on putting all carbs together instead of separating healthy whole foods from the processed, sugary poison many people think of when they think of carbs.

I saw a TV commercial from a producer of high-fructose corn syrup that said "sugar is sugar" and we shouldn't mind the HFCS in lots of our food.

I wonder if all the lactose-intolerant people out there agree that "sugar is sugar".

Yeah, I saw those ads pimpin' HFCS and thought, "do they really think people are this stupid?"

Better ask Dave. He's the "boobies is boobies" guy. Dave, "sugar is sugar" ?

yes.........

No they are stupider. This cuntry is full of fat people blaming everything but eating to much as the problem.
The smart part is the companies that get these piggies to empty out thier wallets on books, supplements, magazines and all the other secret cures for their fatness. End result, still fat.

More proof calories in/calories out is big lie

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html

Cliffs
-Professor looses 27 lbs on junk food diet of doritos, oreos and lil debbie snacks
-Blood panel greatly improved
-body fat dropped from 33.4 to 24.9 percent
-Proves there is hope for AuntyM if she can learn to count calories and estimate portion size (they have a new thing called a food scale)

Now this is purely anecdotal, and I don't claim to be an expert on anything surrounding weight issues, but just going on people I know, the crappier they eat and the less they exercise, the fatter they are. The ones who watch what they eat and exercise are the thin ones.

My one single encounter with weight gain is instructive for me, at least...I didn't exercise, and my diet went haywire when I quit smoking...and I gained over 40 pounds.

I got sick of the extra weight, started going back to the gym and getting exercise in the out of doors, and stopped eating so much, and such crappy food, and in a few months the extra weight was gone, and has not ever come back.

I'm sure all the experts on this thread can tell me a thousand reasons why all this happened, but it's pretty clear to me...eat crap and sit on your ass, and the ass you're sitting on will get bigger...eat good amounts of good food, and don't sit on your ass, and your ass will get smaller.

I don't think you need to be a doctor, or InterWebz expert, to see the fundamental truth in those things.

I'm sure some people are affected by conditions like diabetes...but some of my family members who have it didn't have it until they got fat. I'm sure some people have glandular problems, and don't process calories or fat or whatever well. I'm sure some people have lost the Fat Lotto and are just fat, no matter what they do or don't do.

The other 98% of the fat people are fat because they eat too much, they eat crap, and they don't exercise.

Fish on...

Todd

bingo, i've struggled with weight my entire life and it wasn't glandular or genetic... it was me eating a ton of convenience food (aka. poison)

you don't catch type 2 diabetes, coronary heart disease, or obesity like the cold or flu. 99.999999% of the people with these health issues have them due to food and lifestyle choices.

i'm not trying to come off as cold or uncaring about people with serious, life threatening illnesses. but not being honest about the causes doesn't help anyone. it is hard for many people to make good choices. many people are uneducated and our food system is designed to help people make bad choices. neighborhoods without grocery stores but tons of fast food make it very difficult for people living there to make good choices. not only that, but the standard american diet (processed and loaded with sugar) is full of addicting foods.

the truth is that eating healthy can be very difficult. pay attention to the commercials on the television sometime and see if any food items being advertised aren't heavily processed and/or full of sugar. go to a store and look at how easy it is to make bad decisions when it seems like they hide the healthy food because there is so little of it. children are bombarded by misleading food advertising from the time they start watching TV. it's no wonder why our country is so sick and spends so much on health care.

The best miracle weight loss product is tobacco. The pounds melt away if you use a can of dip a day.

there is no place for nutrional theory, unless your fat and are looking for excuses.

I follow the recommendations from a nutrionalist that has zero ties to the FDA but he does have a masters in sports nutrition as well as a research review he publishes monthly. His plan is basicly a carbon copy of the FDA plate, with the exception it has caloric values more defined based on goals and excercise or lack of, and he encourages regular free meals of anything I want.

On his plan my body fat has dropped from 32%+ to currently 18%, looking at 15% or lower for summer. I exercise as little as possible and have a desk job. I did join a gym with some pretty big plans of lifting weights once every 4 days. This winter when we got to St. Lucia the wife will be sleeping with one of the best looking guys on the beach.

2........92.......

Eat less. Move more. Duh.....


It has worked for millions of years.

If you feel pain, then eat more ?

Who are you going to sleep with then?

Seriously, congratulations on your body composition improvements.

So what works for Hookup is to see a 'nutritionist' who tells you to eat less, eat balanced meals, and every now and then eat what you want? I hope you don't pay too much for those services.

Good job sh!tting on everyone else's (including a doctor's) nutrition plans!

Tomorrow I will put my diet to the test when I put on my wetsuit for the first time in 9 months (damn shrinking neoprene). Beach day!

I have also learnt that having a ton of monkey sex is a great way to burn those pesky calories.

Young folks opinions about diets just doesn't carry any weight.

After reading this thread back through I have now determined it is my fork spoon and knife that makes me fat...the asians use chop sticks, they are skinny so thats what I am using from now on. Case closed, see you on the flip side.

I just finished a plate of freshly baked Peanut butter chocolate chip cookies and a ice cold glass of NON fat milk.