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#693195 - 07/12/11 06:38 PM Feds: Pot has no medical purpose
Iwant2fish Offline
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Registered: 12/12/09
Posts: 272
Loc: Whatcom County
Did you guys see this?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43692468/ns/health-health_care/


I have one question, if pot doesn't have any medical purpose, then why does the US government hold the patent rights on using pot for medical purposes??

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#693206 - 07/12/11 07:12 PM Re: Feds: Pot has no medical purpose [Re: ]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Our goverment is a disgrace at all levels.

Can anybody be proud to be a part of this train wreck any more?
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She was standin' alone over by the juke box, like she'd something to sell.
I said "baby, what's the goin' price?" She told me to go to hell.

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#693207 - 07/12/11 07:15 PM Re: Feds: Pot has no medical purpose [Re: ]
Salmo g. Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13478
The feds have gotten one or two other things wrong before. This comes as no big surprise. The government proves yet again that it is more responsive to $lobbying$ than to right and wrong and what makes sense.

Sg

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#693214 - 07/12/11 07:21 PM Re: Feds: Pot has no medical purpose [Re: ]
Salmo g. Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Yeah, and the WA state legislature and gov totally screwed up the state's medical marijuana law, hanging cancer patients and their providers out to dry. That's fvckin' sick.

Sg

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#693216 - 07/12/11 07:25 PM Re: Feds: Pot has no medical purpose [Re: Salmo g.]
Carcassman Offline
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Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 7612
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
But if you want to be Solicitor General or some other Fed job, you don't piss off the Feds.

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#693220 - 07/12/11 07:33 PM Re: Feds: Pot has no medical purpose [Re: Carcassman]
RowVsWade Offline
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Registered: 11/08/06
Posts: 3359
Loc: Island Time
At least Oxycontin is still legal.....I mean.. we all know the "potential for abuse" is so much lower when it comes from Bristol-Squibb, et al.

I see MJ being legal in the next 3-5 yrs...then we'll have to lock up our white wimmen. Less'n they be molested by pot smokin' negroes. tic
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#693222 - 07/12/11 07:40 PM Re: Feds: Pot has no medical purpose [Re: RowVsWade]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Those pieces of sh!t had better hope I'M not the cancer patient some day.

They'd learn to regret being the dung beetles that they are if and when that happens.
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She was standin' alone over by the juke box, like she'd something to sell.
I said "baby, what's the goin' price?" She told me to go to hell.

Bon Scott - Shot Down in Flames

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#693227 - 07/12/11 07:47 PM Re: Feds: Pot has no medical purpose [Re: Dan S.]
RowVsWade Offline
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Registered: 11/08/06
Posts: 3359
Loc: Island Time
No chit.

In all seriousness...I too hope you aren't a cancer patient someday.
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"...the pool hall I loved as a kid is now a 7-11..."

If you don't like our prices bring your wife down and we'll dicker.

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#693237 - 07/12/11 08:35 PM Re: Feds: Pot has no medical purpose [Re: RowVsWade]
Direct-Drive Offline
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Registered: 11/10/09
Posts: 7960
Loc: Vancouver, WA
I'm sorry to report that my dear mother is dying of pancreatic cancer.
Marinol, a marijuana derivative is one of the meds that she takes.
It stimulates the appetite which helps make her last days a bit more tolerable.
Even that was hard to acquire for her.
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#693244 - 07/12/11 08:59 PM Re: Feds: Pot has no medical purpose [Re: Direct-Drive]
SBD Offline
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Registered: 10/19/09
Posts: 3731
Loc: Water
This is a DEA ruling not a court, I'm not even sure why they have a say in the matter? I always thought LE enforced laws not made them. You can read the ruling by clicking (here) in the original post.
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#693256 - 07/12/11 10:31 PM Re: Feds: Pot has no medical purpose [Re: Direct-Drive]
CedarR Offline
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Registered: 08/04/99
Posts: 1431
Loc: Olympia, WA
Direct-Drive, I'm sorry to hear your Mom has pancreatic cancer. Lost my mother to ovarian cancer; she got her diagnosis and was placed in hospice care the same day. My sister in law passed away from pancreatic cancer just 30 days after diagnosis. Cancer is a bitch! If marijuana gives those battling cancer a moment of relief, mentally or physically, it should be readily and cheaply available. You would have to be a heartless SOB to deny a patient this respite from suffering.

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#693267 - 07/12/11 11:03 PM Re: Feds: Pot has no medical purpose [Re: CedarR]
Direct-Drive Offline
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Loc: Vancouver, WA
Originally Posted By: CedarR
Direct-Drive, I'm sorry to hear your Mom has pancreatic cancer. Lost my mother to ovarian cancer; she got her diagnosis and was placed in hospice care the same day. My sister in law passed away from pancreatic cancer just 30 days after diagnosis. Cancer is a bitch! If marijuana gives those battling cancer a moment of relief, mentally or physically, it should be readily and cheaply available. You would have to be a heartless SOB to deny a patient this respite from suffering.

Thanks for the kinds words.
In April she was teaching Photo Shop and driving around in her PT Cruiser. Then SHTF.

On the 25th of this month she'll turn 83, she's fought off cancer 3x before and she's had a good life.
Cancer however, is still a bitch.
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#693275 - 07/12/11 11:27 PM Re: Feds: Pot has no medical purpose [Re: Direct-Drive]
Iwant2fish Offline
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Registered: 12/12/09
Posts: 272
Loc: Whatcom County
Originally Posted By: Direct-Drive
[she's fought off cancer 3x before


Sounds like one tough lady.

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#693287 - 07/13/11 12:14 AM Re: Feds: Pot has no medical purpose [Re: ]
Direct-Drive Offline
ExtenZe Field Tester

Registered: 11/10/09
Posts: 7960
Loc: Vancouver, WA
Don't want to derail this thread, but thanks all.

Imagine, Marinol, legal in all 50 states since 1985 with a prescription and some doctors still don't want to touch it.
Reefer Madness must have worked on them.....afraid of that knock on the door.
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#693356 - 07/13/11 02:21 PM Re: Feds: Pot has no medical purpose [Re: ]
Salmo g. Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13478
My sympathies to those who have friends or relatives fighting cancer. A former co-worker of mine is doing the same, and finally six months after the initial discovery of his cancerous brain tumor and surgery, it's stopped growing or advancing. But he's getting two kinds of chemo for it, and thanks to the MJ cookies and brownies his wife and friends bake, he's handling it.

I get a bit of rage knowing those sick fvcks would deny any kind of drug that can help cancer and other patients. It's so far beyond idiotic, it makes me want to go all Dan S. and light up a flame thrower . . .

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#693366 - 07/13/11 03:08 PM Re: Feds: Pot has no medical purpose [Re: Salmo g.]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Originally Posted By: SG
it makes me want to go all Dan S.


smile
_________________________
She was standin' alone over by the juke box, like she'd something to sell.
I said "baby, what's the goin' price?" She told me to go to hell.

Bon Scott - Shot Down in Flames

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#693382 - 07/13/11 03:52 PM Re: Feds: Pot has no medical purpose [Re: ]
Dave Vedder Offline
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Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
Meanwhile the pharmaceutical companies have successfully fought all efforts to control the cold medicines that tweekers make meth with. Oregon had the crap put behind the pharmacist counter and meth manufacture dropped to almost nothing. Why don’t the other states do this - oh yeah, cuz the pharmaceutical companies own the farkinf politicians. Hey, let's see if we can find a tax loophole to help them out.
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#693396 - 07/13/11 05:11 PM Re: Feds: Pot has no medical purpose [Re: SBD]
Robbob Offline
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Registered: 08/25/08
Posts: 81
Originally Posted By: SBD
This is a DEA ruling not a court, I'm not even sure why they have a say in the matter? I always thought LE enforced laws not made them. You can read the ruling by clicking (here) in the original post.


Just so we keep our incompetent Feds straight....it was not a DEA ruling, it was a DHHS (Dept. of Health and Human Services ruling. "The Department of Justice declared Friday: "DHHS concluded that marijuana has a high potential for abuse, has no accepted medical use in the United States, and lacks an acceptable level of safety for use even under medical supervision." "

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#693402 - 07/13/11 05:48 PM Re: Feds: Pot has no medical purpose [Re: Robbob]
Iwant2fish Offline
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Registered: 12/12/09
Posts: 272
Loc: Whatcom County
Originally Posted By: Robbob
[quote=SBD] , ." "
"DHHS concluded that marijuana has a high potential for abuse



Really. Must have been a while seen they have taken a look at alcohol. beathead

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#693408 - 07/13/11 06:21 PM Re: Feds: Pot has no medical purpose [Re: Robbob]
SBD Offline
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Registered: 10/19/09
Posts: 3731
Loc: Water
Based on the DHHS evaluation and all other relevant data, DEA has concluded that there
is no substantial evidence that marijuana should be removed from schedule I. A document
prepared by DEA addressing these materials in detail also is attached hereto. In short, marijuana
continues to meet the criteria for schedule I control under the CSA because:



It looks like DHHS provided the evaluation not the ruling, and I honestly don't care since I gave the chit up in HS. But it's leaving the decision up to the goverment enforcement agency who I can bet gets a large % of it's funding for MJ cases that bothers me.
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