Just heard on the news. Old man called 911 and said someone was trying to steal his outboard. Next they heard was the old man had the 20-something guy held at bay. When the cops got there the thief was dead. Old man went to hospital as a precaution. No one knows what happened yet with no obvious signs of trauma.

I don't care if he strangled the bastard, there's only going to be one witness.

hahhahahahahha

somebody stole my next door neighbors outboard and they pretty much had to come up my driveway with the light on to do it. He called the sheriff but they never found it.

Well if he was holding the (thief at bay) I'm guessing a firearm was the cause of death. RIP Loser

"no obvious signs of trama" was the report

"no obvious signs of trama"


Your right I missed that part, musta shot him square in the ass.

One down, many more scumbags to go. Lock and load boys.


Fishy

If it was a Force outboard he was trying to steal; the thief truly died in vain. Best wishes for the "old" man's speedy recovery, he likely saved society from a heap o' problems and expenses down the road. Justice ain't always just...a child killer walks out of a court room one week, and an outboard thief gets tagged in the street a week later.

One for the good guys

Never pick a fight with an old man. He'll just kill you.

Just watch......the POS's family will be living in the old mans house before this is over. Here come the wrongful death and likely manslaughter charges for the old man. I will be amazed if he is not charged and sued.

The Snohomish County Medical Examiner ruled the death a homicide yesterday with the cause of death being asphxiation (choking). Here is one way this could have gone down that without independent corrobaration is just as likely as the 67 year old's version.

He kills the guy (there evidently is some relationship between the two, I read that the "thief" is a friend of the homeowner's nephew)
Phones 911 and says somebody is trying to steal his outboard motor
Removes the outboard motor from his boat
"Detains" the suspect until the police arrive

Now, what makes the above scenario any less likely than what has been reported? I don't know what happened, none of us do. The only one with knowledge is the 67 year old guy. We love the idea of an older "good guy" winning in a battle with a bad guy who is stealing property. But, we need to think and not follow the herd. And we also need to remember that although getting burgled is a lousy thing, we don't categorize burglary as a Capital Offense.

Who's "we"?

Mark my words as said above.....this old boy will be charged and sued. State of our legal system. Unless the kid was armed and in the house you best just let him have the motor and file a useless as tits on a boar hog police report that will never be followed up on. If you hurt the little POS you will be the one that gets screwed.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say if the old man would hypothetically be unable to detain the 20-something man, he'd also be unlikely to choke him to death...

I also like the idea of a thief being caught...though, as FP pointed out, what if it was your sister's misguided 20 year old son who got himself killed for attempting to steal an outboard motor to support his drug habit? You'd be screaming for the old guy's head, and don't for one second lie to me and tell me you wouldn't.

If it went down like the old man said, and his life was in danger, then it should be an open and shut case of justifiable homicide. At this point, I find this scenario highly unlikely to be the truth.

If there was an attempted burglary that went awry, and the old man killed the kid without his life being in danger, then the old man is going down, and should...I don't care how old you are, you can't go around killing people over a few hundred or a few thousand bucks worth of outboard motor. This isn't the Wild West, or some fuckedup third world country. Probably not Murder One, but something that won't have him out any time soon.

That's probably the most likely scenario, from what I've heard so far.

The last scenario is cold blooded murder with a setup to make it look like a burglary. If this is what happened, then the old man should be explaining himself to his Maker as soon as practicable.

Unfortunately I find this scenario to be more likely than the original story the old man told.

Fish on...

Todd

Moral of the story? Always have a "drop" gun or knife.

Actual moral of the story...don't kill someone unless you or someone else's life or well-being is in grave danger.

Otherwise...go to jail like you fuckin deserve. Can't do the time, don't do the crime.

Fish on...

Todd

http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20110721/NEWS01/707219829

Published: Thursday, July 21, 2011

Officials ID man who died in alleged struggle with homeowner

Herald staff

EVERETT -- Officials Thursday released the name of a man who died earlier this week during a confrontation south of Everett.

Dylan Thomas Jones, 23, of Everett, died Tuesday in the 400 block of 117th Street SE, according to the Snohomish County Medical Examiner's Office.

The medical examiner lists the cause of death as asphyxia due to compression of the neck, and the manner of death as homicide.

Snohomish County sheriff's detectives are investigating, sheriff's spokeswoman Rebecca Hover said. No arrests have been made.

Jones was reportedly wrestled to the ground by a 67-year-old Everett homeowner before his death. The homeowner alleged that the young man was trying to steal a outboard motor.

Seems pretty simple---

Dont steal peoples shiaat and dont get dead

I would feel remorse as the old man does for killing the kid--but I would have none if I mamed them and brought them great pain and scared them for life--that would make them think before they go do something stupid

I have had a Motor stolen off my boat from my property and my truck broke into twice on my property. There was no sign posted that said "Hey Come Steal My Shiatt" . They made a concious decision to walk onto my property without asking if they could steal my shiaat. I probably would have said no but thanks for asking--now I wont have to think about loading my gun or beat you with a hockey stick. No they accepted the risk and helped themselves as if it was theirs. Cut the bolts off the motor and cut a very large "secure" paddle lock-left their cigarette butts and left no Thank you card.

Even a misdirected young un has the understanding --steal and risk..