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#701758 - 09/01/11 01:04 PM Anybody following Buffet's investment in B of A?
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Read an interesting banking article on it. B of A might not be the strong bank Uncle Warren says it is.
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#701768 - 09/01/11 01:41 PM Re: Anybody following Buffet's investment in B of A? [Re: Dogfish]
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Well warn me if it's going to fold, so I can get my stuff out of the vault.

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#701774 - 09/01/11 02:03 PM Re: Anybody following Buffet's investment in B of A? [Re: Irie]
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I picked up some BAC at $7 so I was happy to hear WB's investment. Remember, though, that his shares are preferred and he got one of those smoken deals you can't refuse whereas my common stock investment was a lot less money but more of a gamble.
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#701778 - 09/01/11 02:16 PM Re: Anybody following Buffet's investment in B of A? [Re: stlhead]
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At a minimum he stands to make $300 million per year. More likely he'll net between $3.2 to 6.4 billion, and because of the preferred stock treatment and dividend restrictions, B of A doesn't get to treat it as tier 1 capital, meaning they overpaid for the money. His deal, and options, effectively give him the power to say yeah, or neah, on common stock dividends.

B of A overpaid for a reason. Just sayin'. Small depositors shouldn't be harmed. (Under $250,000) Nothing looming just yet, but watch it.

When I worked for B of A, we could day trade B of A stock in our 401K. I made $32,000 in a month based on the volatility at that time, right after 9/11/01.
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#701889 - 09/01/11 08:25 PM Re: Anybody following Buffet's investment in B of A? [Re: ]
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http://www.kpax.com/news/gates-and-buffet-visit-wyoming-why-/



Geez I wonder where all the coal hitting the west coast for shipping is coming from.
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#701898 - 09/01/11 09:41 PM Re: Anybody following Buffet's investment in B of A? [Re: SBD]
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You think Warren wants his burlington northern trains to go empty?

Warren owns a few hydro projects too.

He makes kids fat with his candy.

His company owes the IRS taxes from 2002 or 2003
(while he lectures the rest of us)


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#701906 - 09/01/11 10:30 PM Re: Anybody following Buffet's investment in B of A? [Re: Fast and Furious]
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He also has lots of Natural Gas back in the Midwest..
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#703642 - 09/12/11 01:24 PM Re: Anybody following Buffet's investment in B of A? [Re: SBD]
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Bank Of America Cutting 30,000 Jobs


Reuters
By Ben Rooney
Posted: 8:37 am PDT September 12, 2011
Updated: 9:21 am PDT September 12, 2011

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Bank of America said Monday that it plans to eliminate 30,000 jobs as part of a plan to save $5 billion.

The announcement came after Chief Executive Brian Moynihan outlined the bank's strategy at an investor conference in New York.

BofA has already disclosed plans to eliminate a total of 6,000 jobs this year. And it recently announced a management shakeup that effectively will split the bank into two units: one serving consumer and one serving commercial clients.

The bank said it expects a "significant portion" of the reduction in headcount to occur through attrition and the elimination of unfilled positions. BofA had a total of 287,000 employees as of June 30.

The move, part of an ongoing reorganization launched last year called the "Project New BAC," will play out over the next few years.

In the first phase of the plan, BofA said it expects to save $5 billion, or 18% of its projected $27 billion in overall costs, through 2014. The second phase will begin in October and run through 2012.

The cost reductions stem from changes BofA has made in its consumer and small banking business, credit card operations, home lending as well as global operations and certain support areas.

"We're a much simpler company than we were 24 months ago," Moynihan said.

Shares of BofA rose 1.3% in morning trading. The company's stock has taken a beating this year, tumbling about 48% from January.

Moynihan said the company will continue cutting costs as part of a plan to refocus on its core businesses, but he declined to provide details on future reductions.

Moynihan acknowledged that BofA faces a challenging environment, pointing to the weak economy, low interest rates and the bank's troubled mortgage unit.

But he stressed that BofA has been focused on building "a fortress balance sheet" to help offset any future losses. It has been doing that, he added, by "getting out of the things we don't need to do."

The bank has been struggling to tamp down widespread speculation in financial markets about potential legal costs and loan losses in its mortgage unit, which has been the worst performing of its six business lines.

BofA announced an $8.5 billion settlement earlier this year with 22 of the nation's largest fixed-income investment firms over mortgage-backed assets. The assets in question stem from BofA's purchase of Countrywide Financial, once the nation's largest sub-prime lender, in 2008.

The settlement, which has yet to be approved by the courts, is being challenged.

When asked if the bank would consider bankrupting Countrywide, Moynihan said BofA is "looking at all options." But he stressed that the company would not discuss such plans publicly.

Meanwhile, BofA is also being sued by state and federal regulators for questionable foreclosure processes.

BofA is one of 17 major U.S. financial institutions that are being sued by the federal agency overseeing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in an attempt to recover billions of dollars in losses from risky mortgage investments.

Moynihan said resolving the lawsuits "could help move us forward." But he added that the settlements "must be reasonable for the company and the shareholders."

He also discussed the economic challenges facing the company, as lending activity continues to decline and interest rates remain near record lows.

To deal with these challenges, Moynihan said the bank is focusing on its "core" businesses, including its retail and commercial banking operations, as well as private wealth management.

Moynihan also argued that BofA has improved its capital position and reserve levels following recent asset sales.

In the third quarter, BofA sold part of its stake in China Construction Bank and agreed to sell its Canadian credit card business. It also received a $5 billion investment from Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway.

Moynihan said BofA was not pressed by bank regulators to raise capital at the time of Buffett made his offer. "We are very pleased with the investment and it has had a great impact on our company," he said. "It was absolutely right thing to do for us at the time."
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#703647 - 09/12/11 01:52 PM Re: Anybody following Buffet's investment in B of A? [Re: Dogfish]
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Didn't he profit 400 million on this transaction?
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#703660 - 09/12/11 02:30 PM Re: Anybody following Buffet's investment in B of A? [Re: Sol Duc]
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I don't think he has made money, other than a paper gain, just yet.
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#703666 - 09/12/11 03:02 PM Re: Anybody following Buffet's investment in B of A? [Re: Dogfish]
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No different than insider trading.
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#703708 - 09/12/11 06:25 PM Re: Anybody following Buffet's investment in B of A? [Re: Sol Duc]
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The sad part is Wall Street loves layoffs. The only way to keep up with them is to buy in. Although my luck wasn't so good with WAMU but that was a theft not a seizure.
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#703711 - 09/12/11 06:33 PM Re: Anybody following Buffet's investment in B of A? [Re: stlhead]
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My best friend's Wife was a executive at Wamu when it was stolen, she lost 300k or more in stock. evil
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#703723 - 09/12/11 07:57 PM Re: Anybody following Buffet's investment in B of A? [Re: Sol Duc]
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One client bought $50,000 of WAMU towards the end. Stock price bumped up a few weeks before the end, hit his trigger price, and he lucked out.
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#703724 - 09/12/11 08:02 PM Re: Anybody following Buffet's investment in B of A? [Re: Dogfish]
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That was the most shorted stock during the collapse, Killinger should be sitting in a jail cell.
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