#705697 - 09/22/11 04:35 PM
Re: Should millionaires pay the same rate as teachers?
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But! but! but! but ! Next!
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#705700 - 09/22/11 04:41 PM
Re: Should millionaires pay the same rate as teachers?
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"But! but! but! but ! Next!" The end. 
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#705702 - 09/22/11 04:52 PM
Re: Should millionaires pay the same rate as teachers?
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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TJ,
Tell me about your degree in Economics, or Finance, or your MBA.
Do you think if you say "period end of story" that actually means anything, other than you're an arrogant ass who thinks he's in control of the conversation?
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#705705 - 09/22/11 04:59 PM
Re: Should millionaires pay the same rate as teachers?
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DanS,
Refute Friedman-Reich or pound sand your choice.
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#705713 - 09/22/11 05:16 PM
Re: Should millionaires pay the same rate as teachers?
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Moral of the story: conservatives base their economics on faith not facts. For them tax cuts are a religion. Believe your eyes and what we have seen for ourselves in history, not conservative rhetoric. Conservative economics is a record of failure except for those at top. It has nothing to offer the average person but falling wages and greater economic insecurity.
And yet, conservative voters continue to vote for those very policies that screw them just as much as they screw the rest of us. Are they just "born conservative" and are unable to think rationally? Are they under the very mistaken thought that, even though it's virtually impossible under conservative economic principles, that they, too, will some day be in that top 1% that gets all the breaks and controls everything? Do they value their hate of whatever isn't them more than they value their actual well being, and that of their country and countrymen? Are they just stupid? Fish on... Todd
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#705715 - 09/22/11 05:21 PM
Re: Should millionaires pay the same rate as teachers?
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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TJ,
WTF are you to judge Friedman-Reich? Does your Econ degree tell you their proposals are valid? Does your degree in Finance lead you to believe them?
Or, they agree with you, so that makes them right?
Yeah, that's what I thought.
You go pound sand, dick. Then go kill yourself.
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#705717 - 09/22/11 05:28 PM
Re: Should millionaires pay the same rate as teachers?
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Common you really want to post something about a degree or your background maybe even your IQ ,why wait for me to ask? Just do it or refute Friedman-Reich. don't dilly dally man up whip it out and show us how big your intellectual cock is. I will bet a hundy you are a UW or WSU BA at most.
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#705721 - 09/22/11 05:40 PM
Re: Should millionaires pay the same rate as teachers?
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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Tell us about your degree, champ.
Go ahead and take Friedman's sack off your chin first if you need to.
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#705723 - 09/22/11 05:49 PM
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In fact the results turned out to be quite the opposite of those dire predictions. Likewise Bush made many claims that his tax cuts would lead to a robust economy and we all saw how that turned out.
Just to be fair...both of those Presidents were attempting to ride false economic bubbles. Clinton's bubble was the Internet Stocks of the late 90's and GWB's was an artificially inflated real estate market. Neither plan worked in the end and both popped in dramatic fashion conveniently at the end of both of their terms.
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#705725 - 09/22/11 05:53 PM
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Is TJ a closeted Dartmouth or Tuck Grad?
Tune in to find out.....
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#705727 - 09/22/11 05:57 PM
Re: Should millionaires pay the same rate as teachers?
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"refute Friedman-Reich"
What you neocons call for is to remove all tax burdens from corporations and drop it directly into the lap of the dissappearing middle class. Then the magic fairy waves her wand and all corporations reduce their prices across the board to balance out the middle classes acceptance of a heavier tax burden. Only we all know the magic fairy doesn't exist. It's just another form of trickle down economics. A proven failure.
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#705733 - 09/22/11 06:15 PM
Re: Should millionaires pay the same rate as teachers?
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Liberals too apparently because Robert Reich is a democrat and quite liberal.
Like I said above you are getting drunker by the minute on a cocktail of belief dependant realism with an ideology back. DC suffers from this and it's killing the country. A little pragmatism and cooperation from both sides is the only solution.
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#705734 - 09/22/11 06:18 PM
Re: Should millionaires pay the same rate as teachers?
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"Next, toe jam will be telling us that the economic troubles are the middle classe's fault'
Partially the massive transfer of wealth from the US to other countries lies at the feat of consumers buying foreign goods and burning foreign oil. The people that buy the most and drive the most are whom?
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#705738 - 09/22/11 06:29 PM
Re: Should millionaires pay the same rate as teachers?
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I'm not sure why this topic is being debated. In 1993 we saw Republicans cry from the rooftops that the Clinton tax hikes would wreck the economy and lead to a sever recession. Needless to say that turned out not to be true. In fact the results turned out to be quite the opposite of those dire predictions. Likewise Bush made many claims that his tax cuts would lead to a robust economy and we all saw how that turned out.
Moral of the story: conservatives base their economics on faith not facts. For them tax cuts are a religion. Believe your eyes and what we have seen for ourselves in history, not conservative rhetoric. Conservative economics is a record of failure except for those at top. It has nothing to offer the average person but falling wages and greater economic insecurity. Why didn't Obama let the Bush tax cuts sunset if they're so terrible? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/16/AR2010121606200.html"In remarks before signing the bill, Obama called it "a substantial victory for middle-class families across the country." He added: "They're the ones hardest hit by the recession we've endured. They're the ones who need relief right now." Obama described the bill as "a package of tax relief that will protect the middle class, that will grow our economy and will create jobs for the American people."
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#705739 - 09/22/11 06:30 PM
Re: Should millionaires pay the same rate as teachers?
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"belief dependant realism"
BWAHAHAHAHA....wow....aren't you the one with the pie in the sky ideas? If we'd only reduce the burden on the rich all things will set themselves right. Where have we heard that before?
I hate to be the one but here goes...There is no such thing as pure capitalism and if there were by now it would be a one corp world that owns everything. Your version of capitalism is a "belief dependant realism". Sorry.
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#705740 - 09/22/11 06:35 PM
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"I hate to be the one but here goes...There is no such thing as pure capitalism and if there were by now it would be a one corp world that owns everything."
Another UW or WSU BA?
Type Craigslist into your browser. Private parties selling and trading goods without government regulation or taxation is as pure as capitalism gets.
But! But! But ! next!
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#705757 - 09/22/11 07:21 PM
Re: Should millionaires pay the same rate as teachers?
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Well what are you waiting for? Go approach Washington with your craigslist idea. It's pure genius.....NOT. Yup. All we need is one gigantic garage sale.
So, there's this thing. You may or may not have heard about it. It's called a GED. Maybe you'll get one for Christmas?
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#705759 - 09/22/11 07:24 PM
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I'm sure the foil blocked out the fact that everything listed on Craigslist has either been purchased once already, most likely it was taxed, or stolen. That must be some high grade foil!
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