#715060 - 11/02/11 07:20 PM
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Dick Nipples
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Thanks for your usual intelligent and thoughtful response, Slappy.
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#715092 - 11/02/11 08:50 PM
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River Nutrients
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Oakland protester numbers rival Vietnam era dissenters. These people don't seem to be going away Hank, and why don't they just eat cake? Seems people are fed up with the GOP's reverse Robin Hood economic model, or whatever they are calling now. Job creators my a$$, robber barons is more like it.
viva the revolution.
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#715116 - 11/02/11 09:23 PM
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River Nutrients
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I agree with what they are saying, but no I'm not physically there. Americans seem fed up with corporate manipulation of elections, and politicians being on the take. I'll believe corporations are people after Texas executes one of them.
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#715126 - 11/02/11 09:38 PM
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River Nutrients
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Hank, how many people have you employed?
Fishy A better question would have been "Hank, because of your actions, how many people have lost their jobs?" That would be zero... Hank, you continue to avoid the question while espousing that you have the answer to the jobs crisis, banking,health care,taxes, etc, etc. Just answer the question! FIshy
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#715149 - 11/02/11 10:22 PM
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The protesters, IMHO, have their anger misdirected. They should pick up their tents and sleeping bags; all of their cardboard signs; take all of their corporate laptops, cell phones and money from home and head to D.C. That's where the laws were made that got them all peeved. the laws are not created in a vacuum. they are right to protest at the source of power in this country. they are protesting the huge influence money has had and continues to have in our political system. protesting in DC misses the point and let's those who have true power off the hook.
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#715160 - 11/02/11 10:37 PM
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River Nutrients
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Hank, how many people have you employed?
Fishy A better question would have been "Hank, because of your actions, how many people have lost their jobs?" That would be zero... Hank, you continue to avoid the question while espousing that you have the answer to the jobs crisis, banking,health care,taxes, etc, etc. Just answer the question! FIshy How many have I employed? Dozens at one time or another. How many do you or have you employed? As a former small business owner I had in my employ up to 50 +/- at a single time. This is where my experience comes from. Successfully sold and then went on to manage a much larger company's employees which I am retired from. Having dealt with all the issues that are talked about here and more I can say that I am astounded by your lack of serious dialog to the real issues. Copying and pasting from slanted news sources to try and justify your stance on these issues truly makes you look stupid. Having an opinion is one thing but trying to make it work in the real world will bring a whole new perspective into things. Fishy
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#715177 - 11/02/11 11:11 PM
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I find it curious that you, being a retired business owner and manager, would be in favor of the people who are causing businesses to have to lay people off. Would you think so highly of them if they were in front of your business and it then lost 30% of it's revenue?
As usual you don't see the big picture. The Corporations have run rampant over our rights,devastated peoples retirements, raided peoples pensions, cast legislation that furthers their enslavement over average people and these folks out there are fed up. We all should be pissed and ask that we too deserve to be treated like our work is worth a retirement, liveable wages, health care, security in work environments, clean environments and that we are protected from even those that employ people .Business's need to act accordingly, but should be held to the highest standards when they cleave,raid and pillage from the very people that work for them. All of the above has devastated our economy, ruined lives and made some destitute all for the sake of creating money out of thin air and has impacted most of the rest of the planets also. Now to answer your question, all of my work was off site and it is terrible, but the true blame is on the Banksters, Multi-Corps and those parasites that have sucked the life out of our American way of life. Fishy
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#715182 - 11/02/11 11:22 PM
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Dick Nipples
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What are you talking about, Fishy? Those are the ... wait for it...
Job Creators.
I love that term..."job creators"...if I am ever in a room with Mitch McConnel or John Boehner and hear either one of them say that one more fuckin time while saying we need more tax breaks for big corporations, I'm going to pick up McConnel and beat Boehner to death with him, and then feed McConnel to Governor Christie.
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#715185 - 11/02/11 11:32 PM
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River Nutrients
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Without protesting in the streets this country would not exist and the cycle continues.They are putting all on notice that they are mad as hell and not going to take it anymore. If I had lost my house I would be camped out down there with them!
Fishy
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#715194 - 11/02/11 11:45 PM
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What are you talking about, Fishy? Those are the ... wait for it...
Job Creators.
I love that term..."job creators"...if I am ever in a room with Mitch McConnel or John Boehner and hear either one of them say that one more fuckin time while saying we need more tax breaks for big corporations, I'm going to pick up McConnel and beat Boehner to death with him, and then feed McConnel to Governor Christie.
Fish on...
Todd Yeah, "Job Creators" thats the biggest load of [censored] shoveled our way is some time. Fishy
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#715196 - 11/02/11 11:49 PM
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Dick Nipples
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It's the same shovel of schit as every other trickle down economic theory that the right wing comes up with every few years...instead of changing the policy (which, of course, doesn't work at all except for the 1%), they just change the name of it.
"Job Creators" is the nom de jour for "trickle down economics".
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#715201 - 11/03/11 12:00 AM
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River Nutrients
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Todd----"Job Creators" is the nom de jour for "trickle down economics".
You hit that one out of the park! = 100000000000000
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#715208 - 11/03/11 12:22 AM
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Nice Fish on... Todd
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#715225 - 11/03/11 01:14 AM
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He could have Bachmann as his veep, and they could run on the "we'd have no unemployment if we didn't have a minimum wage" platform...
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#715234 - 11/03/11 02:31 AM
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Trying to highlight differences between Republicans and Democrats is akin to highlighting differences between brown bears and black bears.The Obama jobs plan is an oxymoron. Any jobs plan that does not recognize the underlying problem of jobs being exported to communist China is spitting into a windstorm. Any money spent on workers here will flow to China because the goods workers buy will be made in China or other similar Asian nations where slave wages are the rule of the day. No amount of Keynesian style economic medicine will do. We are in a new world now with globalization of the workforce. Until all workers unite worldwide and demand livable wages and safe working conditions the oligarchs will just keep moving around their factories to the lowest paid workers in the world. After China there are still many nations where income is so low that US workers will never again see the days of full employment and livable wages. The US middle class is a thing of the past. It is just taking FOREVER for average Americans to wake up and understand their jobs and lives have been sold down the river. And in all the cacophony and blame being handed around no one is paying the least bit of attention to the root cause.
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#715265 - 11/03/11 11:10 AM
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River Nutrients
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Can you just see the GOP's talking heads exploding right now!!!!
Fishy
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#715306 - 11/03/11 02:21 PM
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Dick Nipples
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There she goes again, ripping on those "job creators"...how many jobs have they created with their $160B tax free dollars the past three years?
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#715314 - 11/03/11 02:29 PM
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Alevin
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this report was on CNBC this morning; President of greece talking about G-20 proposal, and his wish to have the people of greece vote on it. He said that with the conditions put on the citizens, higher taxes, reduction in wages etc, he felt they had a right to vote on their future. President obama sent by US Banks over to G-20 to demand of Greece that they accept the terms of the agreement without a referendum to the people. If EU agreement is not accepted by Greece, the US stock market will crash because the investment bankers have invested heavily in SDO's banking on making a huge profit off the EU deal. If Greece accepts the EU deal, then Greece will be forced into a 10 year depression according to Economic Experts.
Merkel, Germany and Sarkozy, France then stated that "THERE IS NO PLACE FOR DEMOCRACY AND CAPITALISM.
Now i put myself in the shoes of the Greeks; If my government raised my taxes by 50%, and cut my wages, without my say, i'd be pissed off in the streets too.
At what point should my welfare be more important that Greece's or greeces welfare be more important than mine? especially when the US banks started this cluster.
So, my question is just how much is enough? What is the breaking point of all the finger pointers, before you decide to join the Occupy people? Not trying to be confrontational, or sarcastic, just want to know?
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