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#709340 - 10/10/11 06:01 PM Re: Wall Street Protest * [Re: GutZ]
SBD Offline
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http://www.dailyastorian.com/free/protes...er-comment-area



Oh yeah Seaside Oregon is the hub of big buisness, I'm sure the icecream vendors and the bumper cars will be the first to fall.
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#709344 - 10/10/11 06:13 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
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We might not know exactly what this movements all about, but it's certainly got the resident teabagger wing nuts all stirred up.
So there's some degree of success.

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#709348 - 10/10/11 06:39 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
Sol Duc Offline
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It's been awhile since I laughed this hard. rofl
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#709364 - 10/10/11 07:48 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: Sol Duc]
Sol Duc Offline
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Follow the money... thumbs


FAR LEFT Advertises on Craig’s List for Paid Activists to Fight Wall Street

We all knew this was happening. We just didn’t think they’d be so open about it.

In case you had any doubt that these Wall Street protests were being manufactured by the far left, there’s this–

The pro-Obama Working Families Party of New York, a group that shares the same address as the SEIU and ACORN in New York, posted this advertisement on Craig’s list. They are looking for energetic progressives to help them to fight to hold Wall Street accountable. And the pay is $350-$650 a week depending on the responsibility and length of time of staff.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/10/...ht-wall-street/
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#709370 - 10/10/11 08:18 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
Sol Duc Offline
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You don't do anything, maybe you should apply. grin
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#709383 - 10/10/11 09:04 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
ParaLeaks Offline
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Received this in my e-mail today.....seems to have some appropriate statements.
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GREAT TRUTHS

1. In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm and three or more is a congress.
- John Adams

2. If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.
- Mark Twain

3. Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But then I repeat myself.
- Mark Twain

4. I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.
- Winston Churchill

5. A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw

6. A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.
- G. Gordon Liddy

7. Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
- James Bovard, Civil Libertarian (1994)

8. Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries.
- Douglas Casey, Classmate of Bill Clinton at Georgetown University



9. Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian

10. Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.
- Frederic Bastiat, French economist(1801-1850)

11. Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
- Ronald Reagan (1986)

12. I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts.
- Will Rogers

13. If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free!
- P.J. O'Rourke

14. In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other.
- Voltaire (1764)

15. Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you!
- Pericles (430 B.C.)

16. No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session.
- Mark Twain (1866)

17. Talk is cheap...except when Congress does it.
- Anonymous

18. The government is like a baby's alimentary canal, with a happy appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
- Ronald Reagan

19. The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery.
- Winston Churchill

20. The only difference between a tax man and a taxidermist is that the taxidermist leaves the skin.
- Mark Twain

21. The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.
- Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903)

22. There is no distinctly Native American criminal class...save Congress.
- Mark Twain

23. What this country needs are more unemployed politicians.
- Edward Langley, Artist (1928-1995)

24. A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
- Thomas Jefferson

25. We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office.
- Aesop



FIVE BEST SENTENCES

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for...another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they worked for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation!
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#709389 - 10/10/11 09:20 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
Sol Duc Offline
April Fool

Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 15727
Originally Posted By: AuntyM
Originally Posted By: Sol Duc
You don't do anything, maybe you should apply. grin


Apparently, you don't do anything either.

I have a J.O.B and pay taxes....and you?
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#709403 - 10/10/11 10:17 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
Man of logic Offline
Spawner

Registered: 12/20/10
Posts: 950
Loc: the moon
why don't you fuckks research how the happiest nation in the world does it.

It all boils down to quality of living across the board, and anyone who wants to take that away from a fellow human being, is a fundamentally horrible person.
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#709421 - 10/10/11 11:46 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
Rivrguy Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/03/09
Posts: 4497
Loc: Somewhere on the planet,I hope
To protect personal liberty and protect the borders. At least that was the founders intent.
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#709427 - 10/11/11 12:03 AM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: Rivrguy]
Somethingsmellsf Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 12/15/02
Posts: 4000
Loc: Ahhhhh, damn dog!
I knew things would get interesting when Palin was trouncing around the country pretending to run for office while collecting money and Bachmann was just standing there breathing with her mouth open trying to play in the big game.
I should have invested in Kazoo's and propeller beanies.....

Perhaps I should just watch this and cancel the dish!


Fishy
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The idea of a middle class life is slowly drifting away as each and every day we realize that our nation is becoming more of a corporatacracy.

I think name-calling is the right way to handle this one/Dan S

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#709456 - 10/11/11 03:49 AM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
ParaLeaks Offline
WINNER

Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 10363
Loc: Olypen
The libs have misinterpreted the "General Welfare" clause. They read the same words as "General Welfare Check"......just keep 'em comin', eh?
General Welfare is about the government assisting with catastrophic events.....not self imposed stupidity, laziness, and general ass-hattery. The legitimate economic complainers are out looking for work, not looking for hand outs and attention.

Anyone who thinks Massachusetts has anything to offer....should just move there.........please. rofl
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#709497 - 10/11/11 12:51 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ParaLeaks]
stlhead Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
"Apparently, the GOP wants to avoid talking about the economy except to blame it on Obama."

That is the exact tactic of the GOP and remember they stated their number one goal was to get Obama not right the ship. The GOP is willing to throw America down the tubes in pursuit of power.
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#709499 - 10/11/11 12:55 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: stlhead]
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
"The legitimate economic complainers are out looking for work, not looking for hand outs and attention."

So in your circular reasoning those truly looking for work are too busy to complain and those complaining are freeloaders.
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#709544 - 10/11/11 03:32 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
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The Original Boat Ho

Registered: 02/08/00
Posts: 2917
Loc: Bellevue
Occupy Seattle looked just like any other homeless camp as I passed by this morning. Blue tarp city and a couple of hippies with tamborines and flowers.

Still waiting to hear the list of demands and who they are demanding it from.

Standing around in the rain is not going to accomplish anything.
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#709559 - 10/11/11 04:28 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
GutZ Offline
The Original Boat Ho

Registered: 02/08/00
Posts: 2917
Loc: Bellevue
getting Wall Street to serve Main Street
What does this mean?

reform executive compensation
Seems like this would be up to Corporate Shareholders. No?

rebuild America on an environmentally sustainable basis
Some kind of work Corp? I saw a demand for a $Trillion in infrastructure inprovements. What, just print it?

get good green jobs
Every one (with a job)has to buy Solar Panels and get a Prius

promote sustainable agriculture
It's not the dust bowl. What is the problem here?

improve justice for workers
The beatings will continue until moral improves.


Don't get me wrong, I would like to see everyone who is willing to work hard make the American dream, A house with a white picket fence, two car garage , kids, a dog ....bar around the corner wink

But I don't think someone should just be handing out tickets to the promised land.
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#709562 - 10/11/11 04:48 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: GutZ]
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Registered: 10/20/10
Posts: 1263
Loc: Seattle
What they are saying is real simple. They are saying " hey Mr. Fancy Pants, you may have had a good idea, taken some risks etc to make that $100 million but don't forget the guy down here in the trenches. Don't forget that he helped build the infrastructure that allowed you to take advantage of that idea. We don't mind you making 100 times what the avg guy makes but start kicking it back after that. You can do this by your own free will or you can wait until we have had enough and we just come and take it. Read your history books it’s full of examples of the little guy kicking the shat out of the fat cat. wink wink nod nod.
I think it is great and the essence of America, good will come out of the dialog. I am interested to see if a new leadership emerges and a unified message forms. We have a long history in the NW of such protests. We led the nation in the union building movement in the early years of the 20th century.
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#709571 - 10/11/11 05:38 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
GutZ Offline
The Original Boat Ho

Registered: 02/08/00
Posts: 2917
Loc: Bellevue
I think that alot of the jobs that went overseas are low paying manufacturing jobs, no? Who has sent what jobs, where? How do we get them back? Regulation? Something like what NLRB is trying to do to Boeing?

Lying CEO's and boards.
If they are breaking the law, throw their asses in prison. Shareholders need to see through the BS and fixit

Drugs we don't need? I guess I don't understand. I take a handful of [censored] in the morning and another in the evening. It will be even more if I get my Tx (4 times a day)

I am all for fixing the roads and electrical grid. How do you fund it? That asshole Eyman is trying to F' that up. No on XXXX. Are you going to force BPA to upgrade the system? How? Lots of Federal money being spent on I90 and the viaduct. Want more? Where do you get the money? Tax the rich?

I eat Raisin Bran for breakfast. I don't see any thing bad on the list of ingredients wink

ATU587 has certainly taken good care of us. It would be nice if everyone had it so good. Sounds like paradise.

I think that the "99%" will not be happy until there is some kind of a limit on wealth. Do you want to make a $10,000,000 limit on personal wealth. Ask Opera(or a million others). What are you going to do? Make them cash out their properties and send in a check?

Yeah, ya gotta have at least one boat!
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#709587 - 10/11/11 06:58 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
GutZ Offline
The Original Boat Ho

Registered: 02/08/00
Posts: 2917
Loc: Bellevue
I agree that things need to change. I hope that we can find a way to get all of these things done. We have in the past.

I don't think the people in Westlake Park are helping. Neither do a majority (if that means anything) of those posting to the Seattle Times .

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.c...umn=create_date

This was my favorite -

"So..... At 9:00pm tonight, remind the protesters that the park closes at 10:00 and anybody present after that will be subject to arrest and that non-violent actions will be taken by city authorities to vacate the park. Then, at 10:01pm, line up a few tanker fire trucks along Fourth Avenue and begin a steady but heavy low pressure "fire hose rain" over the entire encampment. Make sure to soak to the skin each and every occupant and his/her sleeping bag, back pack and cardboard "tent". Do this for about 30 minutes and then give those that are left another 30 minutes to vacate or face arrest for trespassing, resisting arrest and public nuissance. Wash, rinse, repeat"
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#709783 - 10/12/11 02:21 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
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Registered: 06/14/11
Posts: 341
Loc: Lake Stevens, Wa
I personally think that Wall Street carries too much weight in our country. Companies have become blind to long term goals, and seem to only live for that quarterly report and whether or not they make or exceed the estimates some brokerage house or investment firm has labeled them with.

Wall Street is not corporations or companies, it is investment bankers, Hedgefund Managers, and Traders, people that make money with educated guesses, luck, or inside information. These people don't create anything except larger fees for their clients to pad their own pocket books.

I am writing about companies like Lehman Brothers....remember them? Everyone on this board, including me, gets all up in arms when we talk about a fee that BOA levies against a Debit Card. But when people protest the banks and corporations that took bailout money and continue to treat the public like crap, we go and defend those companies as part of the capitalist ideal? Isn't a government bailout of a private corporation a socialist action, not unlike the socialist ideal that we need to take care of the poor and out-of-work?

All that said Danny Westneat has an interesting take on all of this, and says that the 99% have their math all wrong.


Danny Westneat
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#709785 - 10/12/11 02:27 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: MartyMoose]
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Quote:
Isn't a government bailout of a private corporation a socialist action...


No... it's a fascist action.

If it were socialist... the government would be running the bank/corporation.
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