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#718903 - 11/17/11 01:35 PM Re: Wall Street Protest * [Re: ]
grizz1 Offline
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Registered: 01/17/07
Posts: 463
Originally Posted By: AuntyM
Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
Sure like the way these accepting libs show their real colors of acceptance. If I'm on my way home after 10 hours at work and they stop traffic so I can't get home I would do a little protesting of my own !!!


Pretty sure all the active duty and veterans out there didn't serve so you could get home from work ASAP.

It isn't about you and your inconvenience.



What? Sounds pretty angry.???

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#718905 - 11/17/11 01:38 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
Somethingsmellsf Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 12/15/02
Posts: 4000
Loc: Ahhhhh, damn dog!
Glad I supported the protesters cause it seems there are still to many too comfortable while working for the few so that they can have what we will not get, a comfortable retirement that does not get sold out, affordable health-care (Yeah the best country on the planet cannot afford health care) clean water, air and a bright future for our children and theirs.

Shame on anyone that does not see that these people are out there protesting for YOUR rights against the Profiteering, enslavement by the Multi-Corps whom have bought our elected officials, who has crafted legislation slanted to make the multi-corps win every time. If they don't we 99%ers just bail them out, some free market society we have here!


Fishy
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The idea of a middle class life is slowly drifting away as each and every day we realize that our nation is becoming more of a corporatacracy.

I think name-calling is the right way to handle this one/Dan S

We're here from the WDFW and we're here to help--Uhh Ohh!




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#718907 - 11/17/11 01:40 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
Somethingsmellsf Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 12/15/02
Posts: 4000
Loc: Ahhhhh, damn dog!
Up the revolution, if it impacts your pathetic lives then too bad!


Fishy
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NRA Life member

The idea of a middle class life is slowly drifting away as each and every day we realize that our nation is becoming more of a corporatacracy.

I think name-calling is the right way to handle this one/Dan S

We're here from the WDFW and we're here to help--Uhh Ohh!




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#718917 - 11/17/11 02:20 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: Somethingsmellsf]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Awww...you're five minutes inconvenienced because of people exercising their Constitutionally protected rights.

Let me think...what's more important?

I'll think on it a bit.

No, I won't.

Quit whining.

Fish on...

Todd
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#718919 - 11/17/11 02:23 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: Jerry Garcia]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
Sure like the way these accepting libs show their real colors of acceptance. If I'm on my way home after 10 hours at work and they stop traffic so I can't get home I would do a little protesting of my own !!!


You're whining on the other thread about "excluding hunters from BLM land!", which, of course, it's not...but...

The noise and mess pisses me off...but I should have to deal with it, because you're a right wing fruitcake.

The protesters piss you off...but you shouldn't have to deal with it...because you're a right wing fruitcake.

That's the kind of hypocrisy that the right is all about, all the time...and why I continually note that they think the Bill of Rights starts at the Second Amendment.

Hurry! Take all the money you would have sent to Newt and send it to the NRA before you lose your right to leave three hundred empty shells next to a bunch of shot up trees on public land!

Fish on...

Todd
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#718920 - 11/17/11 02:24 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: Todd]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Maybe this will be the start of the flood...finally some of the crooks are being indicted...

http://www.dylanratigan.com/2011/11/17/h...nancial-crisis/

Hey Occupy, Surprise! Actual Indictments for the Financial Crisis!
November 17, 2011


Gary Trafford


Gerri Sheppard

See these pictures? Those are the first people indicted for the fraud in the mortgage mess, Gary Trafford and Gerri Sheppard.

Yesterday, Nevada Attorney General Catherine Cortez Masto threw the book at these people, with 606 felony and gross misdemeanor charges for supervising the “robo-signing” of documents to speed forecloses on Nevada residences. (You can read the full indictment here.)

”The grand jury found probable cause that there was a robo-signing scheme which resulted in the filing of tens of thousands of fraudulent documents with the Clark County Recorder’s Office between 2005 and 2008,”said Chief Deputy Attorney General John Kelleher. The indictment alleges that both defendants directed the fraudulent notarization and filing of documents which were used to initiate foreclosure on local homeowners.

These are mid-level employees for a company called Lender Processing Services, a medium size company with over 8000 employees. But it’s not a bank. It’s not Goldman Sachs or JP Morgan. So why is this so important? Because LPS is a contractor to banks, and it handled a good chunk of the foreclosures around the country. If your mortgage goes into default, there’s a good chance that your servicer would hand over your file to LPS, who would then initiate foreclosure proceedings. That these people are charged with forging paperwork suggests that the foreclosures themselves might not be legal, and that the banks may not actually have originated the mortgages properly. After all, why not just do the paperwork properly if you have the right to foreclose?

The idea here is that Trafford and Sheppard flip on their superiors, in return for lenient sentences. This is how you get up the chain of command to find out how far the fraud went. It’s also how you clarify the sequence of events, with input from the ground troops that were ordered to commit the acts.

And if it’s the case that these mortgages were problematic in the first place, then the problem hits Wall Street squarely. It flows back into the bundling of mortgage-backed securities, because it means investors were sold bundles of bad mortgages. This could unwind the whole rotten chain of events going back down the housing bubble.

That’s the theory, anyway. For now, it’s mug shots and 606 felony and misdemeanor charges against two mid-level employees who helped foreclose on a lot of families.

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Fish on...

Todd
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#718922 - 11/17/11 02:30 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
Illahee Offline
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Registered: 05/22/05
Posts: 3771
[quote=Chuck S.

It isnt about our active duty and vets either.

[/quote]

I think your wrong Chuck, it's all about active duty and veterans, and their sacrifices to protect our Constitution.
If you had served your country you'd already know that.
How about US History 101? You must have taken that class, it was required at OSU, you don't seem to recall any of the really important points.

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#718935 - 11/17/11 02:56 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Everyone knows that the First Amendment only applies to Tea Baggers and the NRA...*that's* what our soldiers are fighting for...

Fish on...

Todd
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#718936 - 11/17/11 02:58 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
Illahee Offline
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Registered: 05/22/05
Posts: 3771
Originally Posted By: Chuck S.
Your a duck Freespool so the bar isnt set all that high, really.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Wall_Street


Try again wink


Sorry Chuck my parents were not related, I'm a Beaver, not a Hole.

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#718941 - 11/17/11 03:00 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
Somethingsmellsf Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 12/15/02
Posts: 4000
Loc: Ahhhhh, damn dog!
I'm a vet and I fully support the wall street protesters! smile

smile smile

Fishy
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NRA Life member

The idea of a middle class life is slowly drifting away as each and every day we realize that our nation is becoming more of a corporatacracy.

I think name-calling is the right way to handle this one/Dan S

We're here from the WDFW and we're here to help--Uhh Ohh!




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#718943 - 11/17/11 03:01 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Just like the right wing fruitcakes that think *real* patriots should be storming the White House with Uzis right now...defenders of the First Amendment (which, besides allowing FauxNews to exist, also allows the hateful and hilarious right wing religious zealots to spew) agree that exercising your First Amendment rights thru civil disobedience is not just a right, but a duty, when required.

As I noted before..."civil disobedience" is the non-violent breaking of laws that are subordinate to your First Amendment rights, which are pretty damn high on the scale.

Fish on...

Todd
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#718948 - 11/17/11 03:06 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: Somethingsmellsf]
Illahee Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 05/22/05
Posts: 3771
I'm a retired vet and I also support this movement, because special interests are ruining America.
Somebody said that about 20 years ago.

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#718962 - 11/17/11 03:47 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: Illahee]
gvbest Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 06/30/04
Posts: 1078
Loc: Silverdale, WA
What law was passed to control and prevent the protests taking place in the middle of the street or trying to stop the transit system? If I hang out in the middle of the intersection or loiter on the subway tracks, I am sure I will be ticketed/arrested for something (if I dont get hit by a car/train first).
I don't have a problem with them protesting, as it is thier right to do, a right I swore to uphold/defend (I have been in the Military for over 21 years).
I just can't see how being a inconvience to more of the 99%er's than they are to the 1%er's is going to help them gain a bigger following (I guess it might just be a narrow view on my part, I have never protested so maybe I just don't understand).
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#718973 - 11/17/11 04:27 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
Illahee Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 05/22/05
Posts: 3771
[quote=Chuck S



Is this difficult to comprehend?


[/quote]

Judging from your responces, I'd say yes it is a very difficult concept to comprehend.
Your completely missing the boat on this one Chuck, think Vietnam War protests.

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#718974 - 11/17/11 04:29 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Originally Posted By: Chuck S.
[When these demonstrators try and act above the law you seem to think that is a method of free speech rofl



Yes, it very well may be...just because a city, county, state, or the federal government has passed a law that doesn't mean it's Constitutional...and even if it is, that doesn't mean it ought not be ignored in the furtherance of civil disobedience, one of the most American, democratic, and Constitutional forms of free speech and paradigm change.

Fish on...

Todd
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#719034 - 11/17/11 08:06 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: Todd]
Illahee Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 05/22/05
Posts: 3771
Natives are restless in Little Beirut, 35 arrested, traffic snarled, many banks closed.
Gee I think these people are serious.
Up the revolution.

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#719066 - 11/17/11 09:29 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
Illahee Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 05/22/05
Posts: 3771
Originally Posted By: Chuck S.
rofl


Still laughing ........



This could be the end of the Republican party as we know know it today.
The end of special interests buying elections, tax breaks for the wealthy, funny stuff.

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#719094 - 11/17/11 10:59 PM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
Illahee Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 05/22/05
Posts: 3771
Originally Posted By: Chuck S.
Freespool ... you really dont think either party is different do you?

Neither of them give a rats ass what you or I need or want.


Honesty Chuck, which party do you think will align it's self with the protesters?

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#719122 - 11/18/11 12:33 AM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
McMahon Offline
Spawner

Registered: 05/27/08
Posts: 652
Loc: Bellingham/Socialistic Idaho
Kinda like T-baggers, right Chuck?

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#719167 - 11/18/11 11:33 AM Re: Wall Street Protest [Re: ]
Illyrian Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 12/20/09
Posts: 1475
Loc: Spokane, wa
" up the revolution"
Careful what you wish for. You may get it and be fodder for the carrion eaters.
I don't understand the need for a disagreement about whatever to degenerate into a juvenile trash mouth name calling contest. One
might expect adults to have enough vocabulary to express them-
selves without the gratuitious gutter language.

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