#721694 - 11/29/11 02:26 PM
Re: Paul Wulff.......
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So that either feels like a presidential pardon or the lowest of the low as you couldn't even cut it at WSU.
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#721695 - 11/29/11 02:28 PM
Re: Paul Wulff.......
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Erickson or New-wiesel are now available!
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#721706 - 11/29/11 02:56 PM
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Jim Moore and Brock Huard have been floating the idea of....Jim Mora. What a couple of maroons. Obviously I would love Mike Leach but I'm not too sure that will happen. I can't help but wonder if Moos doesn't have someone lined up already. I don't see the UCLA and ASU jobs as much of a competition for coaches. UCLA is just about as cheap as WSU when it comes to paying coaches and ASU is a dead end for coaches. Usually these things go like this: If the guy getting fired was a young, up and coming coach, the next go around the school tries to hire a more established coach. If the guy getting fired was established, then it is the young guy who gets the next try. So, since Wulff was young guy it would seem that the established guy is up next, sans Erickson and Slick Rick.
Edited by DBAppraiser (11/29/11 02:59 PM)
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#721709 - 11/29/11 02:59 PM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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I don't see the UCLA and ASU jobs as much of a competition for coaches. lol
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#721710 - 11/29/11 03:02 PM
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The problem is you gotta find someone who "wants" to live in or near pullman dude ... compare that to ugayla or asu and its a big flip. That's why I think Belotti might end up at ASU. He is older and has said he likes the warm climate. As for UCLA, those guys are cheap, cheap, cheap and they never try to hire a big name.
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#721712 - 11/29/11 03:06 PM
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Well, it's apparent who runs the AD program at WSU...and it's NOT the Athletic Director.
Kinda sad, really.
WSU should have kept their coach...and gave him another couple of years.
A coach's prospects/program don't really start to shine until about 5 years in to the program.
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#721716 - 11/29/11 03:15 PM
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Well, it's apparent who runs the AD program at WSU...and it's NOT the Athletic Director.
Kinda sad, really.
WSU should have kept their coach...and gave him another couple of years.
A coach's prospects/program don't really start to shine until about 5 years in to the program.
How many years did Willingham get? Who wanted him out? Oh thats right the Tyee members hated his guts and threatened to not support stadium renovation if he was not gone. Sounds pretty similar to me.
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#721717 - 11/29/11 03:15 PM
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I agree Parker.
Versus popped up a stat that showed the Coog's points-for vs. points-against ratio, and it has been a dramatic improvement over Wulff's tenure.
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#721720 - 11/29/11 03:21 PM
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The Chosen One
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How many years did Willingham get? Too damn many! You picked the one example of a coach that was probably hired for every reason *besides* coaching talent. He sure as hell pulled the wool over the UW AD's eyes during his interview! That guy was a useless tool and did a ton of long-term damage to the Husky Program. He was a step worse than Neweesal. There's a reason he's not coaching any major program now. I should recommend that WSU hire him! Oh thats right the Tyee members hated his guts and threatened to not support stadium renovation if he was not gone. Sounds pretty similar to me. Not similar AT ALL. Ty got fired because he SUCKED..and SUCKED BADLY. He ran the Husky Program to the ground. Whatever he was given, he squashed it, then dropped his pants and took a dump on what was left. Your argument would hold water if Ty had actually succeeded at Washington. He couldn't and didn't do that from the start. No Tyee likes a losing program..... Oh, and the stadium renovation was going to happen regardless of who is/was coaching. It had to happen. But, it sure does *help* in getting Tyee money when the program is WINNING.....
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#721723 - 11/29/11 03:25 PM
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dougie - it didnt take a degree to know willingham was a turd from the get go.
Wulff has made progress and as listed above finally got a disaster of a program back on the tracks at least.
I know Willingham was a turd, however at the time the same argument was being used for not firing him: You have to give a guy 5 years to get his own players on the field. Wulff did make progress in that the graduation rate is up, the lost scholarships are back, and he has some talent sitting there ready for the next guy. IMO, one thing that really hurt him was the OSU game. The lack of effort and preparation by the Cougs in that game sealed his fate. The donors and boosters are all over here and there were 57k fans in the stands at the Clink and the tv audience saw a team not show up. That certainly didn't help Wulff's cause.
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#721732 - 11/29/11 04:01 PM
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River Nutrients
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Too many WSU athletes hit the bong. Many of them get away with it. Hell the girls basketball team requirements a: be a doper, b: preferrably homosexual, c: with a police record. Mens basketball has some of the same problems. How many of the starters have pot fired run ins with deputy dawg? You might want to try it sometime, clearly you don't have anything to lose.
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#721739 - 11/29/11 04:41 PM
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Hate to see someone lose their job, but winning equals dollars in college sports today. With an $80 million staduim renovation, they needed to make a change to get fans excited about their program. To me, he looked like he already knew right after the Apple Cup what was going to be announced today. He had a defeated look to him, not just from losing the game.
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#721745 - 11/29/11 05:06 PM
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I would take Erickson in a heart beat.
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#721756 - 11/29/11 05:59 PM
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Returning Adult
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The reason Erickson took the ASU job was to find and buy his retirement home!!!!
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#721776 - 11/29/11 08:08 PM
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Lack of players, lost scholarships, shitty location or whatever other issues you can throw in there. Name any other program that would keep a coach that had 40 losses and only 4 conference wins in 4 years?
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