#725631 - 12/15/11 12:37 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: Illyrian]
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Poon it! Poon it! Poon it!
Registered: 08/08/06
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Loc: Yarrow Point
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Wait.....
We believe in American exceptionalism (America is the SINGULARLY greatest country in the world, with no possible exceptions).
We also believe that we personally have answers (posted on the interwebs) to every economic, foreign policy, and constitutional law question raised.
Now we rip someone for taking credit for things they've ACTUALLY done, and are measurably true? I don't for ONE SECOND think Obama's domestic/economic policies have been magical. I do think spending is a problem, and I do also think our tax policy is messed up and he's really made zero progress there.
But legislatively (healthcare, wall street, nuclear arms deal with Russa) and foreign policy wise (ridding the world of Osama, Anwar al-Awlaki and Moammar Qaddafi), he's gotten some stuff done. You may not agree with it, but he's factually saying "hey, I'm proud of what we got done in these areas". The fact is he didn't say he was the 4th best President in the world, you (or whoever you're repeating this message from) just made that up.
By comparison, all you've done is take credit for other people's work (did you actually make the video, or are you just passing along the work of another?). And worse, the stuff you're passing along is just false. It does nothing to help the debate, it will convince NOBODY of anything. People who like it -- just like you -- already made their mind up. They have no interest in actually solving problems, they just vomit crap like this around the internet in an attempt to both feel smarter, and get their hands back on the frickin remote control.
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#725636 - 12/15/11 12:47 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: Sol Duc]
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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He could cure cancer, pay off the deficit out of his own pocket, and bat .500 for the Nationals and he'd still just be a Nigerian Kenyan Socialist Communist Islamo-Fascist Bacon Stealing Gun Grabbing Muslim who must be stopped, if you're a right wing whacko.
Fish on...
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#725640 - 12/15/11 12:52 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: Sol Duc]
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
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Bacon stealing muslim?
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#725641 - 12/15/11 12:54 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: Dave Vedder]
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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Yes. As with most of the whining from the Right Wing Jerkoffs, and the rest of the stuff on the list, it doesn't have to actually make sense, much less be true. Fish on... Todd
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#725658 - 12/15/11 01:26 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: Sol Duc]
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Poon it! Poon it! Poon it!
Registered: 08/08/06
Posts: 1714
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Dude, in a world where BUSH got re-elected, I'd encourage you to be less confident.
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#725680 - 12/15/11 02:14 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: Sol Duc]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 05/22/05
Posts: 3771
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Ending the Iraq war. If GW can get reelected for starting the war, then Obama should have no trouble getting reelected for ending it.
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#725684 - 12/15/11 02:17 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: Illahee]
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April Fool
Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 15727
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The surge in the Iraq war is what sealed the deal, Bush's call, which was widely criticized at the time.
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#725692 - 12/15/11 02:29 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: Sol Duc]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 05/22/05
Posts: 3771
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The surge in the Iraq war is what sealed the deal, Bush's call, which was widely criticized at the time. Are you saying we won this war?
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#725695 - 12/15/11 02:38 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: Illahee]
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April Fool
Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 15727
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What is won? I'm saying the surge turned things from ugly to decent.
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#725701 - 12/15/11 02:48 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: Sol Duc]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 05/22/05
Posts: 3771
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What is won? I'm saying the surge turned things from ugly to decent. You mean less stupid right? WMD's was the primary season for the invasion, and we all know how that turned out. So you think the surge let us save some face?
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#725707 - 12/15/11 03:00 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: Illahee]
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April Fool
Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 15727
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I think the Iraq people would say that Saddam and his Sons were weapons of mass destruction. Now it's up to them to keep a democracy, I'm not holding my breath.
Edited by Sol Duc (12/15/11 03:01 PM)
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#725710 - 12/15/11 03:05 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: Sol Duc]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 05/22/05
Posts: 3771
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The war was sold to the American people as a means to stop WMD's not people. Given America's track record for supporting oppressive regimes, I hardly could agree that over throwing the Iraq government served any purpose other than trying to save face for a ill advise invasion.
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#725737 - 12/15/11 04:00 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: Illahee]
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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In spite of everyone trying to take credit for it, "The Surge" didn't do schit...it was an abject failure.
The entire reason given for "The Surge" was to create space for a political solution to the war...all it did was ramp up the fighting, a bunch of people died, "The Surge" ended, and nothing had changed politically at all.
Just as with the rest of the war The Surge was a waste of money and lives.
It did, however, allow a bunch of politicos from both sides to claim that it was successful, and their idea...
Fish on...
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#725745 - 12/15/11 04:17 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: Todd]
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April Fool
Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 15727
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Todd, I'm pretty sure Obama admitted that the surge worked, even though he was against it.
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#725746 - 12/15/11 04:19 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: Sol Duc]
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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Yeah, cuz it would have been political suicide to tell people that it was a waste of money and lives. Fuckin politicians.
Fish on...
Todd
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#725790 - 12/15/11 05:48 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: Todd]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
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Now Iraq is dominated by the Iran friendly Shiite's. Good job.
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#725804 - 12/15/11 06:42 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 12/20/09
Posts: 1475
Loc: Spokane, wa
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Well said Aunty Moo. Trouble is I can't tell whose cheerleader you are today. Used to be KK's, but you bounce around too much. Oh well they all need you, Must be your mouth or perhaps cooking. You've learned from 4salt I see, His favorite verb is hate.
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#725819 - 12/15/11 07:32 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: Illyrian]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/07/00
Posts: 2955
Loc: Lynnwood, WA
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Guilty conscience perhaps Ill?
Hitting a little too close to home maybe?
Look up the definition of hate... better yet, I'll do it for you:
HATE [heyt] Show IPA verb, hat·ed, hat·ing, noun verb (used with object)
1. To dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward; detest.
2. to be unwilling; dislike: I hate to do it.
This describes your stated feelings toward Obama, the Democratic party and Liberalism in general to a tee! I mean, all you do is copy / paste other people's derisive opinions and whine incessantly when called on it.
I used to think you were just playin' it for laughs like Hankster does... but it has become readily apparent that this is how you actually feel.
It's too bad too.
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#725867 - 12/15/11 10:19 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: 4Salt]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/27/02
Posts: 3188
Loc: U.S. Army
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Hank only does it for laughs? Ya sure about that?
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#725870 - 12/15/11 10:23 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: goharley]
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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Hank only does it for laughs? Ya sure about that? Hank's just waiting for that (xxxxx-R) to show up behind a Presidential nominee so he'll know who to vote for... Fish on... Todd
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#725938 - 12/16/11 02:41 AM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: Sol Duc]
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 06/18/03
Posts: 1041
Loc: north sound
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The surge in the Iraq war is what sealed the deal, Bush's call, which was widely criticized at the time. The deficit financed Iraq War? The Iraq War over WMDs? Or was it to fight terrorists? Fight them over there before we fight them over here? The Iraq War where billions of dollars evaporated in the hands of private contractors? Is that what they call capitalism in action? Or is shoveling hundreds of billions of dollars into the bankers' pockets capitalism? Way to go Bush, that's impressive. All Obama did was end the Iraq War. Oh, and have Bin Laden killed. And have Bin Laden's successor killed. And serve as president while Qaddafi was killed. And expand health insurance. I'm a registered republican and the republican party makes me wanna puke now.
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#726035 - 12/16/11 01:32 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: Illyrian]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
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A boat anchor or just ballast?
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#726045 - 12/16/11 01:48 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: Illyrian]
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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...and another stuffed shirt post from a stuffed shirt poster.
Fish on...
Todd
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#726176 - 12/16/11 09:59 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: Illyrian]
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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You're full of hot air...which is more substance than makes it into your one line "I'll try to sound clever while saying absolutely nothing of value at all" posts...I'm sure you think you're clever, but let me assure you, that feeling is not universal.
Fish on...
Todd
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#726263 - 12/17/11 11:59 AM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: Illyrian]
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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That post, while full of crap, at least says something...so I'll give you credit for it.
That's one.
Fish on...
Todd
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#726266 - 12/17/11 12:42 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: Illyrian]
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Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah
Registered: 08/23/06
Posts: 6207
Loc: zipper
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Dang! That was really good Todd. Two plus sentences without any four letter bits of scatology. But to stay on track, I don'r really give a rat's patootie about what you think of my posts, hot air , or flatulace. It is obvious you can communicate without the verbal and literal trash talk so it puzzles me that you seem to think that the usage of trashy language is admirable and politically astute. Gaymfishin' boring lately?
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#726275 - 12/17/11 01:34 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: Illyrian]
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Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah
Registered: 08/23/06
Posts: 6207
Loc: zipper
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Yep, you have picked a good name for youself. C- as usual for effort, but still not very good.
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#726278 - 12/17/11 01:39 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: Illyrian]
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Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah
Registered: 08/23/06
Posts: 6207
Loc: zipper
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Are you really that stupid Ranty Moo or is it all a bit of thespianism for a common biscuit burner? Grade: D, You obviously gave it your best, but again, it wasn't good enough.
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#726279 - 12/17/11 01:54 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
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April Fool
Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 15727
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Ill is a perfect example of a hypocrite. He thinks because he's old, he can call names all he wants, but when he receives same, he gets VERY nasty and mean, making assertions against the giver as though he's some sort of paragon of virtue.
He's not. He's an ASSHAT of epic proportions. He came back here after a several year absence when I informed him I was done with GF. He showed up here that very same day.
He's a stalker... and an icky one to have.
You're old and call people names. :>)
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#726280 - 12/17/11 01:54 PM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: fish4brains]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
Registered: 03/07/99
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lol
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#726376 - 12/18/11 02:53 AM
Re: I'm the fourth best president in American history
[Re: Illyrian]
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 03/05/00
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Rats patootie? Rats anal orifice? Where the the fuckk did you come from? It's RATS A$$ for christ sake.
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