#734469 - 01/19/12 11:21 PM
Re: which pontoon?
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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<= Loves his Skookum.
<= Removed the LeeLock because he thinks they suck.
Your mileage may vary.
Fish on...
Todd
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#734490 - 01/20/12 12:51 AM
Re: which pontoon?
[Re: Rotten Chum]
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Spawner
Registered: 01/16/12
Posts: 502
Loc: Washington
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Go welded all the way...and catchercraft does make a great pontoon!! What size is that????
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#734514 - 01/20/12 02:17 AM
Re: which pontoon?
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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Kinda...I prefer the old school cleat, like in my driftboats. I also had a boat come with some sort of fancy one way racheted pulley of some sort, too...took it off and put on a cleat. Not sure if the way I like it is better...just pretty sure the way I like it is the way I like it Fish on... Todd
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#734515 - 01/20/12 02:18 AM
Re: which pontoon?
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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P.S. Yours is fancier than the one I had last...it didn't have a pulley as part of it...though I'm sure that wouldn't really make it much different.
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#734564 - 01/20/12 01:09 PM
Re: which pontoon?
[Re: The Catcherman]
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Steelhead Hitman
Registered: 02/10/09
Posts: 1952
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Rag, First of all, our Kamloops frame is made from galvanized steel and made in North Bend, WA. The Osprey Frame is made overseas out of aluminum and then power coated. It says so right on their website. If you only knew how much they paid for the Osprey frame and how much they are marked up... Next, and I'm going to be very clear so there is no misunderstanding...Prior to February 2011 the Skookum Steelheader frame and since March 2011 for Catchercraft, the 1- and 2-Salt Steelhead frames are exactly alike because they were built by the same man, Ken Rambow out of North Bend. He provided the Steelheader frames for Skookum Products until he built them their last frame in February 2011. Since that time, Skookum must have contracted with somebody else to have their frames built. For example, Todd's Steelheader II frame, yeah, it was built by Ken Rambow. After Ken stopped making frames for Skookum, he started making the same frame for Catchercraft...the same frame he had built for over a decade. Now I ask you again, how we ripped off Skookum? And regarding the NRS frame that you refused to believe we are repairing, I'd be more than happy to have the guide contact you if that's what it takes. Again, not saying that NRS makes inferior products, just saying that we happen to be fixing one right now, coincidentally. True. When I purchased my skookum, about three years ago, it was shipped from NorthBend.
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#734573 - 01/20/12 01:20 PM
Re: which pontoon?
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 06/24/99
Posts: 1201
Loc: Ellensburg, WA
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True.
When I purchased my skookum, about three years ago, it was shipped from NorthBend.
Really? That surprises me a little. Maybe it was an isolated incident because typically Mr. Day (Skookum) usually stopped by Ken's place and picked up multiple frames at a time and then had them shipped from Skookum rather than the North Bend fab shop. It was probably due to the circumstances at the time.
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#734574 - 01/20/12 01:24 PM
Re: which pontoon?
[Re: The Catcherman]
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Steelhead Hitman
Registered: 02/10/09
Posts: 1952
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True.
When I purchased my skookum, about three years ago, it was shipped from NorthBend.
Really? That surprises me a little. Maybe it was an isolated incident because typically Mr. Day (Skookum) usually stopped by Ken's place and picked up multiple frames at a time and then had them shipped from Skookum rather than the North Bend fab shop. It was probably due to the circumstances at the time. Totally. His daughter was running his show due to Bill's illness and had the frame picked up from NorthBend.
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#734585 - 01/20/12 01:48 PM
Re: which pontoon?
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 12/24/01
Posts: 1877
Loc: Kingston, WA
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Love the LeeLock. Sayonara to cleats.
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#734591 - 01/20/12 02:33 PM
Re: which pontoon?
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King of the Beach
Registered: 12/11/02
Posts: 5187
Loc: Carkeek Park
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...but probably shouldn't have gone there. ya only live once ... (grin) <--- has no clue what difference a catchathingy or a skookum might have, but someday will have one in Montana. Perhaps a custom color one in Purple & Gold?
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#734711 - 01/21/12 09:55 AM
Re: which pontoon?
[Re: Rag N Steel]
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 06/24/99
Posts: 1201
Loc: Ellensburg, WA
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Rag, You are right, there would be no Catchercraft without Ken Rambow. After he decided to break ties with Skookum, I asked him if he still wanted to make his frames. He said yes, and after some thought and planning, later I approached him with a proposal to start our own company and we formed the business. We are co-owners, he still builds frames like always and I take care of everything else. Ken pretty much defers to my judgement (right or wrong ) on all business decisions but like a good partner, I keep him in the loop. Yeah, I like the LeeLock for convenience and safety and wouldn't get a boat without one personally anymore. Saying that, I ran the clam cleat for a couple years without any mishap but there is always a chance. I would NEVER use the ratchet system. I may look into Todd's cleat idea as another option too.
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#734718 - 01/21/12 10:54 AM
Re: which pontoon?
[Re: MikeH]
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Spawner
Registered: 10/01/08
Posts: 700
Loc: Snoho County
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Go welded all the way...and catchercraft does make a great pontoon!! What size is that???? The toons are 16' and the entire frame is 120" x 72"...the solid diamond plate floor is 10' by 42"
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#734775 - 01/21/12 04:45 PM
Re: which pontoon?
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Spawner
Registered: 07/11/08
Posts: 528
Loc: alaska and washington
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Cleats have not moving parts.
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#749242 - 03/21/12 10:54 PM
Re: which pontoon?
[Re: The Catcherman]
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Alevin
Registered: 10/14/11
Posts: 8
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Danno84,
Good post, nice to see some true WW knowledge come to the thread. One problem with Maravia, Hyside, Sotar, Aire is they don't make smaller pontoons, of which the original post was pertaining to. Sotar is the only one even close with their 11 footers that retail for $2275 just for the pontoons, no frame (they do have deals sometimes). Most fishers don't need that quality of pontoon for fishing applications. JPW offers a great US made pontoon that is reasonable and that is why I mentioned it in my earlier post. Not even Saturn offers 9, 10, or 12 foot pontoons so everyone is pretty much stuck with Maxxon or JPW at the smaller size, which is why Skookum, Bad Cat, Water Ready, and yes, even those crazy loons at Catchercraft all use Maxxon or JPW pontoons in the smaller boats.
And just to confirm, I'm not suggesting that NRS frames are junk in anyway...but the fact is we are repairing 3 cross members right now.
It seems to me my boat is riding on a set of Canyon 10'6 cat tubes so there are other options for smaller pontoons that are US made. I have the urethane coated bottom on my tubes and it is about as tough as it comes for fishing applications and they had about 8 color combos and built them to the color I wanted. I looked into the jacks but they had a terrible shape and were the same old ugly blue color as the maxxon, chafes were extra and they were only 35oz fabric. That blue radiates on the water when the sun hits it. I run a standard driftboat jam cleat on my cat and have never had a problem, the new thing is scare people into a lee lock, I wonder how many have actually been hurt because of a jam cleat that is basically on every drift boat out there for the last 20 years.
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