#740422 - 02/13/1206:26 PMRe: Whitney Houston Dead
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I'm wondering what the tragedy is. The Powell case is a tragedy for the kids, not the adult who knew what he was doing. She had opportunities to clean up that many of us don't. She could skip a few paychecks to go into treatment where many of us would be evicted for missing a couple payments. Not saying she had control over it, we all know that's not how it works. But, she's nothing more than another druggy who continually f'd up her own life.
There are plenty of issues that turn my stomache every day, this doesn't even register.
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#740430 - 02/13/1206:53 PMRe: Whitney Houston Dead
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I didn't drink any alcohol during the 12 weeks ( 6 weeks at a time) that I was on painkillers after my 2 knee replacements. First replacement I was prescribed oxycodone. Second replacement I was prescibed oxycotin, oxycodone, and tramadal. A person has to have alot of self disipline when it comes to using painkillers. They are a tool to help in healing,
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#740447 - 02/13/1207:43 PMRe: Whitney Houston Dead
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And I guess we don't know the dosage she was taking and if she was actually following the dosage prescribed. .5mg of Xanax TID (three times daily) is a lot different than 2mg of Xanax at one time washed down with a cocktail.
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Chuck, your comments indicate you do not understand or know anything about addiction. As far as being tragic, she has an 18 year old daughter who has lived the train wreck life her mother gave her, but now she's a girl without her mom. Shoulda, coulda, woulda, she's still dead.
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No, my comments don't indicate what you said. And I'd venture to say that I might know more about addiction than you do, but you're entitled to your opinion.
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#740463 - 02/13/1209:37 PMRe: Whitney Houston Dead
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Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
I didn't drink any alcohol during the 12 weeks ( 6 weeks at a time) that I was on painkillers after my 2 knee replacements. First replacement I was prescribed oxycodone. Second replacement I was prescibed oxycotin, oxycodone, and tramadal. A person has to have alot of self disipline when it comes to using painkillers. They are a tool to help in healing,
Good for you Jerry.
Although I never personally tried going booze free during the healing process.......it's been my experience that the sterner the alcohol warning is........
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#740676 - 02/14/1208:06 PMRe: Whitney Houston Dead
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Anyone that has been thru treatment knows the facts of their addiction and the % of those that actually conquer their addiction is less than 5% , so think about it 95% of the true addicts in stage 3 are going to die from their addiction eventually, sad but true, Rest in peace Whitney!!!PEACE
#740680 - 02/14/1208:19 PMRe: Whitney Houston Dead
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Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
I didn't drink any alcohol during the 12 weeks ( 6 weeks at a time) that I was on painkillers after my 2 knee replacements. First replacement I was prescribed oxycodone. Second replacement I was prescibed oxycotin, oxycodone, and tramadal. A person has to have alot of self disipline when it comes to using painkillers. They are a tool to help in healing,
Oxycontin is Oxycodone, just in a higher MG per dose... regular Oxycodone, mixed with Tylenol is Percocet, Oxycontin has no acetomenaphin in it, its just straight Oxycodone... Oxycontin is what generally gets people hooked on Heroin, because they graduated from taking regular Percocets, to taking Oxys, then the Oxy doesnt get them high anymore, so they move on to Heroin... its a viscous opiate, and shouldnt be taken if you dont need it...
#741598 - 02/18/1212:21 PMRe: Whitney Houston Dead
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I wonder what makes us experts on Whitney's drug problem? All we really have to go on is the media and they have a rep. for getting it wrong. To me the guy that should have been on the 'get her healed train' is her husband, Bobby Brown. But that's just my narrow point of view. Drug dependency is an illness and should be treated as such. Alcoholism, the same. You have the ability to say NO, however those that are beyone logical thought processes don't have that ability. Legalizing drugs won't fix it, Obama care won't fix it. It is possible for 'we the people' to fix it. But we won't. Too busy with our own monkeys. She had a beautiful voice 'til drugs and Cigarettes took it. RIP Whitney.
#741686 - 02/18/1208:13 PMRe: Whitney Houston Dead
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Originally Posted By: blue water pro
Whitney Houston - one of the most beautiful voices I've heard. The voice of an angel and the looks too. RIP Whitney & thanks for the music you shared. My all time favorite song - in the end it's all about love - who you loved & who loved you. I know she didn't write this song but dang she sure did sang it!
I'm going to puke if I hear that song again.
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#741688 - 02/18/1208:27 PMRe: Whitney Houston Dead
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Originally Posted By: Illyrian
I wonder what makes us experts on Whitney's drug problem? All we really have to go on is the media and they have a rep. for getting it wrong. To me the guy that should have been on the 'get her healed train' is her husband, Bobby Brown. But that's just my narrow point of view. Drug dependency is an illness and should be treated as such. Alcoholism, the same. You have the ability to say NO, however those that are beyone logical thought processes don't have that ability. Legalizing drugs won't fix it, Obama care won't fix it. It is possible for 'we the people' to fix it. But we won't. Too busy with our own monkeys. She had a beautiful voice 'til drugs and Cigarettes took it. RIP Whitney.
Well actually she was divorced from Bobby Brown a few years ago and he was more likely than not the start of her addiction.
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Unfortunately when some has a dependency to alcohol or drugs or both they have to want help otherwise usually there is nothing anyone can do for them.
Yes.
It's my understanding (and I don't have the stats to back this up) that the success (failure?) rate of cleaning up druggies and drunks is about the same, whether they volunteer or are forced into rehab. Both are like tornados, going through their lives tearing up the scenery and leaving others to pick up their mess'.
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#741753 - 02/19/1211:02 AMRe: Whitney Houston Dead
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they had a daughter. I too have heard that he was the idiot that turned her on to drugs. No way to prove that, and if so, it isn't taken as the crime it is, in this society.
People upset over half-staff flags for Whitney Houston Posted: Feb 16, 2012 9:22 PM PST Updated: Feb 17, 2012 11:18 AM PST Christy Millweard - bio | email
Gov. Christie defends lowering flags for Houston
Some people in the Heartland are upset at the idea of flying American flags at half-staff in honor of Whitney Houston.
New Jersey Governor Chris Christie is ordering flags in his state to be flown at half-staff in honor of Whitney Houston on Saturday, the day of her funeral. He says he's not honoring her as a role model, but a daughter of New Jersey.
I don't like the idea of lower flags for her, and I don't get how the idea even got considered. Ridiculous. I rather see Bobby Brown strung up a flagpole.
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Avid.....many who go into rehab do it in order to avoid other consequences...and they do it without wanting to be there. Some change their mind as they detoxify, but many do not. Was talking with the owner of an upper end outfit here locally...the place is very expensive and caters to the well to do. He said that he estimates only about a 50% recovery rate, even when a ton of jing is thrown down.
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