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#756109 - 04/26/12 07:09 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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I'm pretty sure the two lives were totally phucked up long before the media got involved...and blaming stuff on the media is even too base for you, Illy...leave that to Hannity, Bachmann, Pallin, and Limbaugh.

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#756129 - 04/26/12 07:59 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: ]
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If that head wound is the result of Trayvon beating on Zimmerman I would say Zimmerman shot at the last possible second. Sounds to me like he just wanted to have a few words with Trayvon and then Trayvon decided to show Zimmerman the curb and that's when things got out of control. Maybe Zimmerman did provoke it somehow and when he saw Trayvon was about to kill him with possibly even his own weapon it was kill or be killed. Trayvon is the one who looks like the Shady character in this situation. The race card was being played out before this incident even started, it wasn't a factor it was an excuse.


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#756138 - 04/26/12 08:29 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Salman]
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The race card was played first by Zimmerman when he told the dispatcher that Trayvon was a "suspicious black guy"...and then second when he told the dispatcher "those niggers always get away with it"...

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#756142 - 04/26/12 08:44 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: ]
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I saw that the phrase "These #$)*@ always get away"...and someone implying that he said "nigger"...if he didn't, then I was incorrect.

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#756148 - 04/26/12 09:02 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: ]
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Got something in his hands: Skittles and iced tea. Deadly weapons for sure. Talk about presumption of guilt.

Martin may have been a dirtbag, but Zimmerman had no knowledge of that. The only thing Zimmerman could be sure of was that Martin was guilty of being black.

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#756157 - 04/26/12 09:10 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: ]
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I haven't proven anything. I'm just reflecting on the evidence made public thus far.

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#756160 - 04/26/12 09:13 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Salmo g.]
Todd Offline
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He was looking for black men.

He found a black man.

He shot a black man.

A black man who was armed with Skittles and iced tea.

When you go looking for trouble, you will find it.

When you are the cause of the trouble you find, you will be held accountable for it.

Moral of the story is that if you decide to be a vigilante, you better know who you are shooting at, and why...or you may go from vigilante to criminal when you make a mistake.

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#756169 - 04/26/12 09:21 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Todd]
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Good summary Todd.

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#756178 - 04/26/12 09:31 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Salmo g.]
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We have yet to see if it is applicable.

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#756180 - 04/26/12 09:32 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Illyrian]
Todd Offline
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Originally Posted By: Illyrian
We have yet to see if it is applicable.


Again, that's why there's gonna be a trial.

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#756261 - 04/27/12 01:09 AM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Todd]
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Obviously Trayvon was coming at Zimmerman so why is it wrong for Zimmerman to go after Trayvon?
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#756276 - 04/27/12 01:52 AM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Salman]
Todd Offline
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Originally Posted By: Salman
Obviously Trayvon was coming at Zimmerman so why is it wrong for Zimmerman to go after Trayvon?


Except for the part that no one has said that Trayvon was coming at Zimmerman, and Zimmerman himself stated that he pretty much chased Trayvon down and confronted him...except for those little pesky facts...you're spot on.

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#756292 - 04/27/12 08:25 AM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Todd]
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Funny how those facts seem to escape so many people here on PP on so many different subjects.



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#756304 - 04/27/12 11:03 AM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Somethingsmellsf]
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Seems to me it's your right to walk without being accosted by the local neighborhood watch, or any citizen, anyway. Try to stop and question me I'll tell you to F off.
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#756315 - 04/27/12 11:46 AM Re: Florida shooting [Re: stlhead]
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Originally Posted By: stlhead
Seems to me it's your right to walk without being accosted by the local neighborhood watch, or any citizen, anyway. Try to stop and question me I'll tell you to F off.


+10000

If it were the other way around, and Trayvon had run down and confronted Zimmerman, there'd be a bunch of gun nuts preaching that this could have been avoided had Trayvon been packing heat...when Zimmerman came up to him he could have shot him first.

'Course, you only get that preaching when the end result would be a white man shooting a black man...I haven't heard one NRA dude say yet that Trayvon could have saved himself by shooting Zimmerman.

If it were a white guy confronted by a black man, not only would they be screaming for the black guy's head, they'd be telling everyone to get armed so this doesn't happen to you.

Where are all those guys now? Oh, that's right...telling everyone that Zimmerman was such a great guy, that it was Trayvon's fault for walking through the neighborhood with Skittles.

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#756320 - 04/27/12 11:57 AM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Todd]
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Todd.....That is just F-in stupid. About as bad a post you have made in sometime. Why attempt so hard to make and connect anyone pro-gun with racists. Pretty F-in sad post even if just to get a rise.
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#756323 - 04/27/12 12:09 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: docspud]
Todd Offline
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No attempt necessary.

Tell me it's incorrect...if it were a white guy who was minding his own business, eating his Skittles, and a self-appointed black vigilante with a gun shot him to death after running him down and confronting him, this would be a totally different discussion.

It would be all about arming yourself to protect yourself from such a criminal, not about "it's his fault, too, for eating Skittles".

Fish on...

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#756324 - 04/27/12 12:13 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Todd]
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Todd your responses to just about everything are so predictable ...and laughable.

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#756330 - 04/27/12 12:26 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Ann Coulter makes LeadEater look smart.

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#756334 - 04/27/12 12:36 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: ]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Originally Posted By: grizz
Todd your responses to just about everything are so predictable ...and laughable.


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