#758678 - 05/09/12 05:55 PM
Re: so what would Jesus do?
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the hard drive is a Toshiba HDD 2181... i pulled it out, and turned the computer on... guess what... no grinding fan like noise, and it went to the "no bootable devices" screen rather quickly... put it back in, and its grinding away, taking forever to boot up again... you can also feel vibration directy over the top of where the drive sits in the computer... and its back to its slow ways of getting to the blue error screen...
i will try your link, but with the drive making this much noise, its almost a dead giveaway... If it's making noise like that, it's toast. Looks like those older HDD's are more expensive than I thought. C&P the link into your browser. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007605%20600003442&IsNodeId=1&name=IDE%20Ultra%20ATA100%20%2f%20ATA-6 Cheaper but smaller here.. http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-ST980815A-80GB-5400rpm-Drive/dp/tech-data/B000H4WKWKDouble-check the interface before you buy, but I believe these are correct. If you try to go bigger than 137GB you may have trouble. There was a 137GB ceiling with the old BIOS instruction sets. The new instruction set would allow "large drive recognition". If you haven't flashed BIOS before, probably not a good time to practice with the machine inoperable, etc. Look for a 120GB or smaller if you have this older BIOS. You could look up the Dell model number and see what HDD options they offered.
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#758679 - 05/09/12 05:56 PM
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Sound like it is dead. I'd recommend putting an eye hook in it and using it as a flasher for the next time you go fishing....that is if you ever fish.
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#758680 - 05/09/12 06:03 PM
Re: so what would Jesus do?
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DD it sounds like a quieter blender basically... but with it working the way it was yesterday, atleast i have eliminated the Motherboard issue... so now i just need a HDD.. stone, i fish, ive been fishing 2 times in the last 4 days, but since its lakes and for trout, it doesnt count as fishing...and id rather use my Seps flashers than a Toshiba 
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#758683 - 05/09/12 06:27 PM
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i dont need anything larger than 120 DD... 80 would even work, as i dont plan to use this for anything but surfing and minor stuff.. no music, no programs, nothing... my big computers are 500 gig, and 640 gig, i use them for the music and other crap...
like i said, i have the 500 gig external HD, if i need to save anything on this laptop, i can use it instead of the internal HDD... that way i can take the information to whatever computer i wish, and i wont lag the laptop down with a bunch of crap on it....
thanks for your help, i appreciate it...
and yeah, HD prices have been going up, and down, and up... theres a good computer shop down the street i can get an 80 from for like 40 or 60 bucks, i cant remember, the 120 if i remember right is 60 bucks... the one in the computer is only a 30, so either would be an improvement over it... plus, this laptop has simple hook up to external monitors such as my LCD TV... which will be cool streaming UFC fights and such...
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#758684 - 05/09/12 06:30 PM
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i dont need anything larger than 120 DD... 80 would even work, as i dont plan to use this for anything but surfing and minor stuff.. no music, no programs, nothing... my big computers are 500 gig, and 640 gig, i use them for the music and other crap...
like i said, i have the 500 gig external HD, if i need to save anything on this laptop, i can use it instead of the internal HDD... that way i can take the information to whatever computer i wish, and i wont lag the laptop down with a bunch of crap on it....
thanks for your help, i appreciate it...
and yeah, HD prices have been going up, and down, and up... theres a good computer shop down the street i can get an 80 from for like 40 or 60 bucks, i cant remember, the 120 if i remember right is 60 bucks... the one in the computer is only a 30, so either would be an improvement over it... plus, this laptop has simple hook up to external monitors such as my LCD TV... which will be cool streaming UFC fights and such... Be sure to get the correct interface...I think that Dell is ATA-100 (PATA)
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#758687 - 05/09/12 06:41 PM
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Dell forums say that it is an IDE aka PATA aka ATA drive just like you said... and 120 gigs are fine... they also say that i can have the tech guy Clone the OS and all programs on this drive and have the image installed on the new drive making it plug and play... that is, IF its salvageable, which it might not be from the noise its making... the computer we had built before my dad died, runs SATA and RAID componets, but thats kinda redundant..
pretty simple fix and not too pricey for a decent laptop...
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#758688 - 05/09/12 06:42 PM
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If I remember correctly, XP likes at least 1 GB....the early XP machines shipped with 256 MB and would have to page like crazy. If it's a two-channel board be sure that's turned on. But, yeah, get the friggin thing running and stable before monkeying with memory upgrades.
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#758689 - 05/09/12 06:48 PM
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the cards that are in it are twin 128s... and its a 1.5ghz system... but it was clipping along pretty decent last night before i shut it off... watched some videos on youtube, went to Facebook, and it was quick and nice quality... but yeah, i should get it working correctly before upgrading stuff...
Abu kiss my a$$...
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#758691 - 05/09/12 07:09 PM
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oh sh!t... guess what DD.. i was looking through the box, grabbing all the driver and other disks... guess what i found?
the windows XP OS disk!!!
just got that much easier, and cheaper...
since this isnt my info on here, and she didnt care, should i format the hard drive and see if its maybe corrupted or something and re install the OS and Drivers? or would that be a waste of time?
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#758692 - 05/09/12 07:20 PM
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oh sh!t... guess what DD.. i was looking through the box, grabbing all the driver and other disks... guess what i found?
the windows XP OS disk!!!
just got that much easier, and cheaper...
since this isnt my info on here, and she didnt care, should i format the hard drive and see if its maybe corrupted or something and re install the OS and Drivers? or would that be a waste of time? I think that was on your list of things to do a few posts back. Glad you found it. If that HDD is making all the noise you say it is, I would considered it toast. I wouldn't do sh!t with it unless it came up clean after a diagnostic. Burn the free bootdisk I linked you and run the Toshiba diagnostic before wasting time with it. Edit: Use the Hitachi Drive Fitness Test.
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#758694 - 05/09/12 07:27 PM
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im out of CDs right now, i used my last ones a month or so ago... i turned the computer back on to see if it would stop grinding and making the noise like it did last night... no dice... matter of fact, i picked it up to listen closer to it, and the thing started squealing for a second then went back to the WAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH buzzing grinding noise, and takes a minute to get to the error screen... im not gonna waste any more time with this thing... ill just get a new HD and start over... i also dont care to see someone elses information on a computer, so, i guess its win win....ill just throw this hard drive in my friends incinerator or something and be done with it....
cant beat a new(to me) lap top for under 100 bucks...
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#758710 - 05/09/12 09:08 PM
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When you get to the point, I have service packs for xp on disc....could mail them to you. I want them back tho.
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#758715 - 05/09/12 09:17 PM
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that would be awesome if i need them... the OS disk includes SP1, and i think or thought i could get the rest from Microsoft on the net... not sure tho, so if i need em, ill even pay for postage both ways... ill have it fixed within a couple days... thank you...
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#758716 - 05/09/12 09:20 PM
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did you eat phuckin paint chips as a kid or something?
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#758721 - 05/09/12 09:27 PM
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yeah, im talkin to him... he offered me something, so i gave him an insult...
aint very bright are you?
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#758747 - 05/09/12 11:02 PM
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DD, i lied, i kept phuckin with it... now the HD isnt even recognized lol... but this computer has all the built in diagnostic stuff, when i was messing with it, the drive got quiter... everything passed but the HD... then it just stopped making noise all together... and now only makes noise a little every few seconds and sometimes longer...
its smoked...
might get the HD this week, otherwise it will likely be on the weekend...
what RPM drive would you reccomend? the 4200 or if i can get it the 5600?
i know speed is everything, but will 1400 RPM make that much of a difference?
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#758752 - 05/09/12 11:33 PM
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DD, i lied, i kept phuckin with it... now the HD isnt even recognized lol... but this computer has all the built in diagnostic stuff, when i was messing with it, the drive got quiter... everything passed but the HD... then it just stopped making noise all together... and now only makes noise a little every few seconds and sometimes longer...
its smoked...
might get the HD this week, otherwise it will likely be on the weekend...
what RPM drive would you reccomend? the 4200 or if i can get it the 5600?
i know speed is everything, but will 1400 RPM make that much of a difference? Most of the replacements for that lappy will be 5400 RPM. Just get one of those, they don't seem to cost any more. It will be a little quicker because of that and a freshly loaded OS.
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#758766 - 05/10/12 01:21 AM
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Wow.......
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#758773 - 05/10/12 02:09 AM
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it is pretty interesting isn't it?
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