#756843 - 04/30/12 02:26 PM
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Yeah, but it's totally objective on your part...and there's no evidence that he was sitting on him or bashing his head on the ground, either.
I've bled more from a shaving cut, and I didn't pull out my piece and shoot my razor...and getting your [Bleeeeep!] beat, even if that's what happened, doesn't mean your life was in danger...that's for when you are about to be killed, not beat up by a kid.
If it was justifiable homicide to shoot someone who is beating your [Bleeeeep!] because you deserve it (or even if you don't), then there would be a few million more dead people every year with no repercussions.
Again, that's why pussies shouldn't be allowed to own guns, because pussies think they can use a gun to get out of a situation that they are in because they are pussies, and that they are magically transformed into tough guys because they have a gun.
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#756847 - 04/30/12 02:58 PM
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...and getting your [Bleeeeep!] beat, even if that's what happened, doesn't mean your life was in danger...
Some pretty thin lines there. If someone is kicking my [Bleeeeep!] in a fight I didn't start, a reasonable person should treat that as a threat to their life. I think you would be an idiot not to. Interpretation of the law says application of deadly force is reasonable in that context. Now if the person doing the [Bleeeeep!] kicking is acting in self defense, that changes the facts. Change the facts, change the answer. Todd's point, which is good one, is that the facts of the case are not yet known. I agree with you in most every other instance Todd. The conclusions that some, even most draw based on speculation, conjecture, and even whim are pretty ridiculous.
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#756849 - 04/30/12 03:03 PM
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You can see why these dolts vote the way they do. Completely out of touch with society and reality.
Explain why it isn't Trayvon who had the right to "stand his ground"?
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#756854 - 04/30/12 03:21 PM
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The Chosen One
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Again, that's why morons shouldn't be allowed to own guns, because morons think they can use a gun to get out of a situation that they are in because they are morons, and that they are magically transformed into invincible morons because they have a gun. Had to edit your statement there a bit Todd as there's more than one type of person that fits what you just said. Morons. If you think carrying a gun makes you any more "safer" in this world, and can get one out of a any situation they put themselves in, then they are simply a moron. In this case, both parties involved in this incident fall under either a) or b) a) Don't put yourself in that situation. b) Don't put yourself in that situation. Both of them were morons.
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#756855 - 04/30/12 03:21 PM
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River Nutrients
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Did you ever stop to think Martin was standing his ground while he was beating up Zimmerman? Probably not; your thinking has been out of sorts ever since your nasty accident with that Home Vasectomy Kit. Last I check Martin's first name was Trayvon. Once again you prove my point. Like debating a kid who's still into blocks.
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#756865 - 04/30/12 04:24 PM
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so when you try to help a neighborhood riddled by break ins, and burglaries, you become a maniac?
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#756867 - 04/30/12 04:26 PM
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so when you try to help a neighborhood riddled by break ins, and burglaries, you become a maniac? that would be the logic ....
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#756869 - 04/30/12 04:36 PM
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River Nutrients
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Some simple minds here. Some seem to believe that if you simply meant well then the outcome is justified.
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#756870 - 04/30/12 04:43 PM
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that goes for both parties...
fact: none of us were there, so all this bullsh!t is just speculation...
fact: none of us were there, so all this bullsh!t is just speculation...
fact: Martin may or may not have done something wrong..
fact: Zimmerman may or may not have done something wrong..
fact: the jury will have to figure this clusterphuck out, not us..
fact: none of us were there, so all this bullsh!t is just speculation....
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#756888 - 04/30/12 07:44 PM
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 08/04/99
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Never bring skittles to a gun fight. More sage advice...
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#756932 - 04/30/12 10:13 PM
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Spawner
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I'd like to know how the fight started. In my opinion I think Zimmerman confronted him and asked what was up and then Trayvon started beating Zimmerman up.
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#756934 - 04/30/12 10:16 PM
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WINNER
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Interesting observation by Grizz that most of the liberals here think Martin is the innocent party while the conservatives think Zimmerman is the innocent one. And to think I just read the other day that Ann Coulter maintains that libs, or Democrats at least, are racists, and that the Republicans are not racially biased. Funny world indeed. Sg, it appears the you just played the race card? just sayin Where do you get any racially biased remarks? Maybe I missed them.
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#756939 - 04/30/12 10:59 PM
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 06/30/04
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Is following at a distance defined as chasing? Or did Zimmerman chase and grab Martin? I would define it as stalking. You can see why these dolts vote the way they do. Completely out of touch with society and reality.
Explain why it isn't Trayvon who had the right to "stand his ground"? Exactly. He may very well have been. In addition to the two above instances I mentioned, good old citizen Zimmerman's ex had a restraining order and accusation against him for domestic violence. The dude had anger problems, so I don't think Todd's right with the pussy thing. He sounds more like he was a bully. What Hank has is a bias, not "evidence" but he hasn't got the gray matter to differentiate between the two. Never has, never will. While basically true, you left out the part that Zimmerman also filed a restraining order against her and they both talked to the police accusing the other of the aggressive behavior. In the end no charges were filed against either party.
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#756951 - 05/01/12 12:11 AM
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Repeat Spawner
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Or maybe she did since he broke off the engagement? Either way there was no charges so I doubt it will help prove much.
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#756954 - 05/01/12 12:15 AM
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Repeat Spawner
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So he assaulted a bus driver and that is not violence? And you call Hank stupid.
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#756959 - 05/01/12 12:56 AM
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Spawner
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It sounded to me like George quit running after the kid and lost him when the dispatcher told him to.
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