#764142 - 06/05/12 07:13 PM
Re: The "Real entitlement Program"
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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RR proves that Hank is full of crap.
Like the evidence wasn't already overwhelming..............
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#764143 - 06/05/12 07:14 PM
Re: The "Real entitlement Program"
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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He's not right.
I read food labels and I've never been to Whole Foods, either.
Hank just doesn't care because he's mostly dead already anyway.
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#764150 - 06/05/12 07:26 PM
Re: The "Real entitlement Program"
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River Nutrients
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I read lables. Mostly to be sure I'm dramatically reducing the HFCS and neuro-toxin MSG I feed to my family.
I also kill a lot of the things we eat...they rarely come labled and when they do I always have to return the collar.
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#764169 - 06/05/12 07:47 PM
Re: The "Real entitlement Program"
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I disagree that it is poison because life expectancy has gone up while people have been eating it. I view it the same as putting dirty gas in your car it just won't run to its highest potential. People are still living longer and are healthier than at anytime in history. People want cheap and easy with good taste. We have a genetic predisposition that favors high calorie ,sweet foods and salts ,don't blame your food suppliers for making what people want. The big push to Organics is mostly profit motivated. Whole foods yields a higher profit margin that Safeway. The framers that grow organic make more money. If you look into the brands of whole foods or organics you will see they are owned by the same companies producing the "poisons".
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#764174 - 06/05/12 07:55 PM
Re: The "Real entitlement Program"
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If there was more money in organic foods then you'd see the grocery stores full of organic foods...which you don't.
Some of the companies that produce 99% garbage food also produce some not-so-garbage food...but most good food is not peddled by those companies, not by a long sight.
Not sure where you're getting your info on that TJ, but more research is necessary.
Hank, I don't need to get on a soap box to get people to eat better food...frankly, I don't give a rat's [Bleeeeep!] what you eat, or what anyone else eats, except for myself and my loved ones, and I want to see what's in the food I am buying and feeding them, and I want it on the labels.
If you choose to eat crap, that's your right...I have the right to not eat crap, and I need to be able to see what's in the food so I can make that decision, and the reason it's not there is that Montsanto and one or two other companies don't want you to know how much junk is in your food.
Fish on...
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#764176 - 06/05/12 07:57 PM
Re: The "Real entitlement Program"
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River Nutrients
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The folks that should read the labels and give a chit about what they're stuffing into their gob don't.
It seems to be the younger, and dare I say more educated, demographic that reads the labels. Once you hit 250 pounds or 55 years old the need to read either doesn't matter (which it does even more so) or they just don't care. Of course this doesn't apply to everyone but I think is a fair generalization.
Not a lot of chubbies at Whole foods and not a lot of fitness freaks at Mcdonalds.
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#764178 - 06/05/12 07:58 PM
Re: The "Real entitlement Program"
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River Nutrients
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PHVCK MONTSANTO!!!!
I hate them with every fiber of my being!
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#764189 - 06/05/12 08:28 PM
Re: The "Real entitlement Program"
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Higher profit margins for organics for everyone even restaurants. It is not everywhere because it costs more. Only fools and people with more money than brains do all of their shopping at whole foods or pcc. People will eat cheap food that is easy to prepare before they will assemble a healthy meal . Lastly the term organic is misleading. Most of the organic food available is not truly organic. If I have 1000 acres that I want certified organic I just have to find one spot that test chem free. The rest of it could be a superfund site.
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#764192 - 06/05/12 08:36 PM
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In many respects organic isn't 'better' for you or even that organic at all. But in some cases I and my wife think it tastes better. Organic milk, bananas and berries are just few items we always choose over non-organic. Our eggs come from my BIL's Mom and there is a BIG difference. I'd prefer all our meat came from the hunt but that's not usually the case. I am looking at getting my son on a Bison 'hunt' more for the meat than the 'hunt' not to mention the price per pound considering I do all the butchering.
There is a lot of BS marketing with organic and I realize that aspect of it but it's definately not worse than the alternative.
Edited by RowVsWade (06/05/12 08:38 PM) Edit Reason: Tom Joad was typing as I was hunting and pecking
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#764210 - 06/05/12 09:21 PM
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Makes sense to me. I enjoy gardening for all sorts of reasons, not the least of which is the benefit of a better tasting, 'clean' source of food.
If only we lived in a slightly better climate that was more condusive to growing year 'round. That's one thing Calfornia has over us (there I said it but threw up a little in my mouth).
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#764213 - 06/05/12 09:25 PM
Re: The "Real entitlement Program"
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Dick Nipples
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I'm fine if Tom Joad and Hankster want to eat crap from Safeway that doesn't even tell them what is in it on the label...it's America, after all, and they can eat whatever they want, and I'm in no way trying to stop them from eating GMO food or pesticides or whatever.
I, however, think that I and whomever else wants to should have the right to know what is in the food they are selling us, and that it should be right on the label so I can choose to not eat that crap.
Fish on...
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#764217 - 06/05/12 09:32 PM
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As to taste if you did a blind taste test on an organic strawberry and a non organic you cannot taste the difference. Today's mass marketed crops have been selected for eye appeal and shelf life. The strawberries in the stores today are big and pulpy they also last two weeks to accommodate shipping and sitting in the store before they are sold. This reduces waste and lowers the cost. The strawberries I grow are smaller deep red and so sweet they taste like candy. Their shelf life from time of picking to turning is less than 48 hours. These plants are impossible to find now but they were all anyone grew when I was a kid. Commercial growers would go broke on them. So variety is important and most organic growers are multiple steps closer to the consumer physically so they grow more heirloom crops.
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#764220 - 06/05/12 09:35 PM
Re: The "Real entitlement Program"
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Reverend Tarpones
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Todd, yer a freaking commie. The gubmint wil tell yo what you need to know. People shouldn't be making all those choices.
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#764222 - 06/05/12 09:38 PM
Re: The "Real entitlement Program"
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Todd , if you have to read a label you are buying the wrong food. Labels Only come on Prepared and packaged foods.
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#764230 - 06/05/12 09:56 PM
Re: The "Real entitlement Program"
[Re: Todd]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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(there I said it but threw up a little in my mouth). lol You kill me sometimes.
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She was standin' alone over by the juke box, like she'd something to sell. I said "baby, what's the goin' price?" She told me to go to hell.
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#764286 - 06/06/12 01:36 AM
Re: The "Real entitlement Program"
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Chuck, your tomatoes in the dirt or in a bucket?
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#764291 - 06/06/12 01:49 AM
Re: The "Real entitlement Program"
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#764305 - 06/06/12 05:18 AM
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I don't recall Todd being an organic fanatic until Ms. Bare Bottom showed up........am I wrong?
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