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#764265 - 06/05/12 11:38 PM Re: All eyes on Wisconsin tonight. [Re: Todd]
Sol Duc Offline
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Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 15727
Congratulations to the voters and to Governor Scott Walker!

Now get busy getting the socialist Barack Hussein Obamination OUT of office!!!
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#764266 - 06/05/12 11:40 PM Re: All eyes on Wisconsin tonight. [Re: ParaLeaks]
IdahoSH Offline
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Registered: 08/22/11
Posts: 217
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Even the High Priest of Libtards rollin' in didn't help Barrett.
Even the famous Trouser Dropper can't win um all.

How could a huckster like Obama Hussein Barack help out?
Zippo!!
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#764306 - 06/06/12 05:53 AM Re: All eyes on Wisconsin tonight. [Re: IdahoSH]
ParaLeaks Offline
WINNER

Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 10363
Loc: Olypen
What Wisconsin needs now is a good ol' Sam Reed.
"Oh looky here......more bags of votes that we missed.....My goodness, there must be two truck loads of them!"

rofl
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#764307 - 06/06/12 08:20 AM Re: All eyes on Wisconsin tonight. [Re: ParaLeaks]
Jerry Garcia Offline



Registered: 10/13/00
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Loc: everett

By MARTIN SIEFF




WASHINGTON, Nov. 5 (UPI) -- Sen. Barack Obama won the U.S. presidential election in a historic blowout victory Tuesday.

Obama, D-Ill., won by a 6-point margin in the popular vote, 52 percent to 46 percent, over Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz


Read more: http://www.upi.com/news/issueoftheday/20.../#ixzz1x12M7HyU




Does this mean that Scott Walker won a blow out victory? A mandate victory?
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#764362 - 06/06/12 02:06 PM Re: All eyes on Wisconsin tonight. [Re: Sol Duc]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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Registered: 01/31/02
Posts: 4450
Loc: B'ham
Originally Posted By: Sol Duc
WALKER WINS!!! SUCK IT LIBTURDS AND UNION THUGS!!!


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Man, your life must really suck to be this boned out about another state's recall election that merely allows him to finish the term.

Even you can probably sense that, right?

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#764367 - 06/06/12 02:11 PM Re: All eyes on Wisconsin tonight. [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
Sol Duc Offline
April Fool

Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 15727
Originally Posted By: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D
Exit polls... rofl

Drudge report... rofl

You guys crack me up.


Poor LOSER! Drudge was wrong again....lol GFY! rofl rofl


Edited by Sol Duc (06/06/12 02:12 PM)
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#764374 - 06/06/12 02:31 PM Re: All eyes on Wisconsin tonight. [Re: Sol Duc]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Poor loser?

APKD isn't from Wisconsin, so I'm pretty sure he didn't vote in the election.

But don't let that stop you from being a f'n goat.
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#764375 - 06/06/12 02:32 PM Re: All eyes on Wisconsin tonight. [Re: Dan S.]
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It won't. moose
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#764380 - 06/06/12 02:35 PM Re: All eyes on Wisconsin tonight. [Re: Sol Duc]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Nothing ever does.
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#764381 - 06/06/12 02:38 PM Re: All eyes on Wisconsin tonight. [Re: Sol Duc]
Salmo g. Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13515
An interesting perspective. The state's public employee union, like most unions, sought better wages, working conditions, health, and retirement benefits for its members. Under average to good economic times, how could one say that is not a good thing? No question that during the present economic conditions adjustments needed to be made to keep the state solvent. That's happening everywhere.

But the voter perspective could be interpreted differently. The voter might see good wages, health and retirement benefits as things he would like to obtain for himself too, if he doesn't have them already. Instead of working toward that desirable outcome, the voter sees public employees with a good thing and rather than want the good thing for himself too, he decides it's better to take it away from them.

Instead of lifting all of society up, let's bring everyone down to the least common denominator. A perfect plan by the Koch brothers and other 0.1%ers.

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#764385 - 06/06/12 02:46 PM Re: All eyes on Wisconsin tonight. [Re: Salmo g.]
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Registered: 07/06/09
Posts: 1138
Loc: MA13
Originally Posted By: Salmo g.
An interesting perspective. The state's public employee union, like most unions, sought better wages, working conditions, health, and retirement benefits for its members. Under average to good economic times, how could one say that is not a good thing? No question that during the present economic conditions adjustments needed to be made to keep the state solvent. That's happening everywhere.

But the voter perspective could be interpreted differently. The voter might see good wages, health and retirement benefits as things he would like to obtain for himself too, if he doesn't have them already. Instead of working toward that desirable outcome, the voter sees public employees with a good thing and rather than want the good thing for himself too, he decides it's better to take it away from them.

Instead of lifting all of society up, let's bring everyone down to the least common denominator. A perfect plan by the Koch brothers and other 0.1%ers.


Why is it a good thing that public employee unions can dump big dollars into a candidate's coffers and when he/she is elected, then sit down across the table and negotiate pay, benefits, etc? No one has effectively answered that question and BOTH FDR and Jimmy Carter thought it is a bad system. Neither man would be considered anything close to a conservative thinker.

BTW, just where do public employees wages originate from?

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#764395 - 06/06/12 03:21 PM Re: All eyes on Wisconsin tonight. [Re: DBAppraiser]
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Exactly....Why should public employees not be invested in their health care and/or retirement? That key point of the public employee unions negotiating unsustainable contracts with the very politicians they give money to should be reason enough to agree with what Walker did. Hope this state gets that hint someday too. Of course, if you are the recipient of these higher wages and benefits why would you not go nuts if someone dares cut you back?

Also being forced to join a union in a public job is really hard to swallow. People who continue to argue that this is a great idea and it should be protected must be delusional with all the evidence around the world to the contrary. It's not about screwing over the 20% it's about common sense.

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#764400 - 06/06/12 03:25 PM Re: All eyes on Wisconsin tonight. [Re: DBAppraiser]
Salmo g. Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13515
DBA,

You make a good point regarding union donations to political campaigns if for no other reason than the recent example of WA public employee unions and Gregoire. However, in general, union (public and private) dollars going to campaign coffers is no less offensive than corporate dollars going to campaign coffers in a "checks and balances" sort of way. Some people are OK with corporations ruling the world; I'm not.

We both know where public employee wages originate, and I see that as a different subject.

Sg

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#764401 - 06/06/12 03:26 PM Re: All eyes on Wisconsin tonight. [Re: ]
grizz1 Offline
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Registered: 01/17/07
Posts: 463
Move to France

French president Francois Hollande cuts retirement age to 60
France's new socialist government cut the country’s retirement age in the face of the eurozone’s deepening crisis, citing “social justice” to explain a move that goes against austerity efforts across the region.

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#764410 - 06/06/12 03:46 PM Re: All eyes on Wisconsin tonight. [Re: ]
Salmo g. Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13515
Good examples of the "pendulum" swinging too far, which is what happens; it swings too far one way, then the other in the absence of bipartisanship that strikes the happy medium.

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#764416 - 06/06/12 03:59 PM Re: All eyes on Wisconsin tonight. [Re: Salmo g.]
grizz1 Offline
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Registered: 01/17/07
Posts: 463
Salmo...the problem with union dues going to campaigns is simple..Public employees were (in Wisconsin) forced to join the union and yet the money spent on greasing politicians and funding campaigns is spend without consent. Give to a PAC and you do so voluntarily. Here in Washington the same...Too many "deals" made like Gregoire negotiating with the tribes on the heals of their $600,000 donation...stinks to high heaven.
Let the individual (public employee) spend his or her money in politics as they choose. If the progressive message and philosophy is so wonderful then money should be no problem.

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#764431 - 06/06/12 04:43 PM Re: All eyes on Wisconsin tonight. [Re: ]
Fast and Furious Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 12/30/07
Posts: 3116
Originally Posted By: Hankster
The $31 Million Bust
By Ian Tuttle
June 6, 2012

In full, Democratic candidates and their backers spent more than $31 million to unseat Walker and his Republican colleagues.

That’s a lot of money wasted.


Too bad the law doesnt extend the election results out a full term.

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#764434 - 06/06/12 05:15 PM Re: All eyes on Wisconsin tonight. [Re: ]
docspud Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 11/01/06
Posts: 1557
Loc: Silverdale Wa
If the situation in Wi continues to improve......Not a chance.

If his ideas cause state to crash and burn...there is always the U.S. congress. There you need no ideas just a microphone to bit@h about what someone else came up with. Now that I think about it.....he could also run for president. grin


Edited by docspud (06/06/12 05:19 PM)
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#764437 - 06/06/12 05:38 PM Re: All eyes on Wisconsin tonight. [Re: ]
donno Offline
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Registered: 06/03/03
Posts: 518
Loc: baker prairie
About 60k.

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#764438 - 06/06/12 05:38 PM Re: All eyes on Wisconsin tonight. [Re: ]
docspud Offline
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Registered: 11/01/06
Posts: 1557
Loc: Silverdale Wa
School Nutrition Dispenser II and Custodial Engineer IV......Please tell me those are not the real names. rofl
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