TOLEDO, Ohio (AP) - The Ohio congressional candidate known as "Joe the Plumber" is running a campaign video in which he suggests that Nazi gun controls contributed to deaths during the Holocaust because Jews didn't have firearms to defend themselves.

The ad drew strong rebukes from Democrats and Jewish organizations.

In the video, Samuel Wurzelbacher loads a shotgun and fires at lemons and tomatoes placed on wooden posts. "In 1939, Germany established gun control," he says. "From 1939 to 1945, six million Jews and seven million others, unable to defend themselves, were exterminated," he says before ending the video by saying "I love America."

Gun control opponents have long held that Adolf Hitler was able to seize power in Germany in part because of controls on firearms.

Ohio Democratic Party Chairman Chris Redfern said the video was "incredibly offensive." He called on Republicans and Democrats to condemn "the despicable actions of this very desperate man."

"Using the memories of the six million Jews killed in the Holocaust to make a political point is never appropriate, under any circumstances," said David A. Harris, president of the National Jewish Democratic Council.

Wurzelbacher also said in the video that gun control laws in Turkey preceded the deaths of 1.5 million Armenians from 1915 to 1917.

He defended his statements Wednesday, saying that he did not say that gun control caused the Holocaust. He accused liberals of twisting his words for political gain.

Wurzelbacher, running as a Republican in Ohio's 9th district, became known as "Joe the Plumber" after questioning Barack Obama about his economic policies during the 2008 presidential campaign.

Glad to help. At this rate he'll surpass you this week.

Joe the Plumber makes redhook like like a Rhodes Scholar.

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Todd

Jr. ?

kidding, Todd.

This whole media story is just ......garbage.

That guy is a tool.

Speaking of tools...flipping thru the channels and saw some "expert" on FauxNews talking about the Fast & Furious scandal...apparently it is now a great conspiracy to restrict the 2nd Amendment.

Anyone who believes that is dumber than the wrapper that comes on a Big Mac.

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Todd

It would be a tight race between Joe and a wax toilet seal...Joe would probably be a better fundraiser but the toilet seal would kick his a$$ in a debate.

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Todd

So the wailing by the left a couple years ago about guns purchased in the US going to Mexico aiding the cartels and F&F are merely a coincidence?

Or are you saying the obama admin intentionally wanted to aid the cartels killing Americans and Mexicans with their covert smuggling of illegaly obtained firearms?

the new american dream.... celebrity. joe's done a good job at milking his 15 minutes.

when we hear people say that anybody would be better than the people currently serving, is this what they mean?

I don't see it as a conspiracy against the 2nd amendment. I see it as a president going against his transparent government promise to help a friend. Let the chips fall and air it out.

I think F&F didn't work out as well as was planned, and that Issa and Grassley are going after Holder to embarrass him and Obama, and for no other reason, and Obama is protecting the documents to stymie Grassley and Issa...and that's it.

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Todd

if there was nothing to embarass the administration then if this is a witch hunt by the R's provide the documents and embarass the R's

that would be too simple, ..and straightforward. The wondermenchen
that Odd and stlhd like cannot do that. It would make them seem
powerless.
Odd and stlhead; Someone said they make redhook look like a Mensa
candidate. Right on.

Since it's all about politics you wait until you whackos and your party work themselves and the media into a hissy fit and THEN you make them look even dumber than they are. WINNING!

Sadly, no political party represents independant people. We are left to choose the lesser of two evils based on what the two dominant parties give us.

"we the sheeple"

No sheep here.

The fuckin O was pissed when the Heller case was decided by the SCOTUS.
Decided in favor of Heller.

He came out with this statement:
"I identify with the need for crime-ravaged communities to save their children from the violence that plagues our streets through common-sense, effective safety measures. (DC's position in the case.)

Fact of the matter is he was referring directly to the black on black crime (killings) that plagues DC... Chicago, Detroit, Philly, et al.
Out of the top 10 list of worst cities to live in, Blacks are more than 50% of the population on 8 of the 10 cities listed. Murders among blacks in those cities is rampant -out of hand.

But, no need to attack the Second Amendment.
Guns don't kill people, criminal with guns kill people.
Outlaw guns and these criminals will use knives or ball bats.

Yes, there are some that have suggested a conspiracy.
There are those that believe the entire point of Fast & Furious was to establish some ground for the Executive to weaken the Second Amendment, which the SCOTUS had just affirmed as an absolute individual right in Heller. DC v. Heller was a landmark case in which the SCOTUS held that the 2nd amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm for "traditionally lawful purposes". The first time it had been clearly defined in 127 years.

Unfortunately, that decision leaves a 'crack in the door'. I put quotation marks around the language that does.

As pointed out above, the Oblamy was not happy about the decision. Some claim he (the Oblamy) would provide a rebut to the decision that he could "ram" into law, but then, the Congress changed parties in 2010 and his deceitful strategy went down the proverbial shithole... Or so goes the conspiracy.


Speaking of that, maybe the Oblamy will go down the same proverbial hole this fall.

Now, some of you can tune back into your regularly scheduled programming:
Solodad O'Brien, Mr. Maddow or the Lame Larry show and lap up their Kool Aid.

IdahoSH apparently is trying to give Illy and Sol Duc a run for their money as "most ridiculous right wing fruitcake"...

Way to go.

Now back to reality...

The 2nd Amendment is going nowhere, and never has, no matter who's been the President.

You looking for a conspiracy? Look at the NRA and gun shops who freaked out when Obama was elected and made millions selling all those guns and ammo that were about to be outlawed...they laughed at you Kool-Aid drinkers all the way to the bank, and still are...the rest of us are laughing at you still, too.

And, the Heller case...so much for the right wing's strict constructionist reading of the the Constitution and their decrying of "activist judges"...they made up a right that clearly isn't written clearly in there...but since the dingbats liked it, all of a sudden they abandoned strict constructionism and their hate for "activist judges"...abandoning whatever credibility or integrity they had (which was not much) right along with it.

While most the country and most all the politicians do nothing at all regarding gun rights there is a cottage industry getting rich off of ginning up a nonexistent conspiracy, then getting you fools to drain your bank accounts, giving the money to the very ones who are lying to you.

Good work if you can get it, I guess.

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Todd

What a fuckin rambling, non-cogent reply.
Just pointed out the conspiracy you referred to for clarity, and you piss a puddle in your chair.

Take a deep breath.

IdahoSH

Would a tissue or a nuk help you out?

I'll type more clearly, an slower for you, IdahoSH...

You and others like you who send money to the NRA, or ran to the nearest gun shop to buy all those guns that Obama was going to ban (but, of course, didn't)...

You are who they were talking about when they said "A fool and his money are soon parted".

Clear enough for you?

Part two...if you thing that strict constructionism is how the Constitution should be interpreted, and that "activist judges" are bad, and you support the Heller case, then you are no only a hypocrite and tool, but a dumbass to boot.

More understandable for you now?

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Todd

The Heller case was brought to redress a local law that passed not allowing guns in the city limits of DC.
That law was first imposed to address the high death/murder rates that was rampant in the black communities of the city.

Obama referred to the "crime-ravaged communities" in direct reference to the problem within those ethnic communities and his support of the DC case.

So for the purpose of clarity and insight, I tried to lay out an overview of the Heller case, Fast & Furious, the community involved that the DC law meant to protect, and the conspiracy Todd brought up that he over heard on Fox News.

I know what all that is about...which, of course, has nothing to do with any actual conspiracy...F&F has nothing to do with any gun grabbing, nor has anything Obama has done in over three years had anything to do with gun grabbing.

To think otherwise is to just empower the lying sacksofshit over at the NRA to take your money for no reason whatsoever.

Here's your "facts"...and even though it's Maddow asking the question, who is clearly a partisan, it's the right wing morons who are utterly detached from reality who are showing just how smart they are.

With no facts to back up their assertions, where do you think they got the idea that Holder was after their guns, and that they needed to protest?

FoxNews, and the NRA...just tools and puppets who would go out to protest if they were told that Obama intends to pass a law making all space mans who live on Pluto to give up their guns and abort all babies who aren't Kenyans.



Join the crowd, IdahoSH...looks like there's room for another sign holder who's still living in GWB's world of non-reality.

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Todd

still nothing but rambling and helter-skelter libtard muttering.
type as slow as you want but it won't put a brain in your head.

did you mop up that puddle?

Fast & Furious

Oblamy: saw it on TV
Holder: read about it in a paper
Napolitano: no fuckin clue

Think Air-Head administration.
Knock Knock... Nobody home?
Libtards all spaced out on F & F.

Should I go look for that nuk?

Or perhaps a tampon?

And, I know Todd was watchin' that hottie Megyn Kelly on Fox.
That's where the suggestion of a conspiracy was mentioned.
He tunes into her everyday to learn something, and drool.

Did I say Megyn is a hottie?

Save um Dan.
You'll need um for the next time I tear in to Oblamy.

Fox has cornered the market on hot babes!

Really?

You have to be phvcking kidding. How old are you sunshine?

It's not the "deciding" factor. It's a fact.

A quick internet search will prove what you don't want to acknowledge.

Perhaps you can show the class how it's not so.

Detroit
Watts
Newark
Philly
Compton
Houston
Chicago

Well it's relevant because it's the high crime, minority dominated cities that have attempted to disregard the Constitutional guarantee for the "right to bear arms". When that right was infringed it was necessary for the Supreme court to uphold that basic right. Hence Heller.

You don't see 'Heller vs. Cheyenne' or 'Heller vs. Winnemuca'. It's always a Chicago, DC, New York, Detroit that needs to protect themselves from those that have no regard for any law. That's why law abiding citizens in those chit holes have to fight for the right to protect themselves. The precise reason 'shall not be infringed' means just that. Unfortunately there are phvck sticks that attribute one Constitutional right being excercised as "judicial activism" but those same phvck sticks would cry their wasted education away over the infringement of 'free speech'. They are the same dipchits that (rightfully so) stand up for the occupy movement but decry any other excercise of rights.

Get it?

Sweet...racist gun nuts.

'Merica the beautiful.

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Todd

P.S. Don't know who Megan Kelly is...not sure what show was on. It was a dark haired chick, if that helps.

Yup the original gun laws were to keep those recently enfranchised
folks from having the means to defend themselves.
All your Odd, take it from there.

An armed population are called citizens.
An unarmed population are called subjects.