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Originally Posted By: FishPrince
I am really lucky. I almost went to that last night... I'm glad I decided to Bale out at the last moment. Honestly, what kind of Joker would do such a thing?
Well, whatever. The movie looked good. The FX blew the audience away. It really makes a difference when the shooting is in 3D.
I don't know, I think I'll wait a few days for the crowds to die down before I see it.
Maybe just a bit too soon, but I'm not quite sure.
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Fear rules the day. Pathetic that citizens would accept this. Then again, the average person that goes to the movies is a sheep that is ruled by fast food and fake reality TV.
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It's too bad everyone in the theater wasn't armed and they all just started shooting at everyone who was carrying a gun and shooting. Then only 225 people would be dead.
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Originally Posted By: AuntyM
Originally Posted By: Todd
It's too bad everyone in the theater wasn't armed and they all just started shooting at everyone who was carrying a gun and shooting. Then only 225 people would be dead.
Fish on...
Todd
Ya know... that occured to me also. Most humans can't see very well in the dark.
He was able to see well enough to kill a dozen and wound 70+ people, with a gas mask on.
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On Monday, in addition to TSA frottage coming to a movie theater near you, look for a congress(wo)man to propose legislation banning paintball....
The exception was Holmes' apartment building, where authorities were still collecting evidence. Authorities covered the windows of Holmes' apartment with black plastic to prevent anyone from seeing in. Before they did, a man in an ATF T-shirt could be seen measuring a poster on a closet that advertised a DVD called "Soldiers of Misfortune." The poster showed several figures in various positions playing paintball, some wearing masks.
didnt say i believed it AP, but dont say its not plausible... just too many inconsistancies, to not think about...
while the dude is smart (he looks retarded on the TV tho), a person cant just go on the internet and learn how to make bombs of that caliber, and booby traps, without anyone knowing anything about it, or seeing something suspicious... which would lead to him being taught by someone...
look at Kaczynski (another extremely smart person, matter of fact, genius smart), his bombs were garbage, 16 of which only killed 3 people... but this kids apartment was like "nothing ever seen", you dont just google stuff like that up, and then build it to a T, it would take testing, far more money, research, ect... it just doesnt make sense...
In May 1988, McVeigh graduated from U.S. Army Infantry School, at age 20. While in the military, McVeigh used much of his spare time to read about firearms, sniper tactics, and explosives. McVeigh was reprimanded by the military for purchasing a "White Power" T-shirt at a Ku Klux Klan protest against black servicemen who wore what he viewed as "Black Power" T-shirts around the army base.
McVeigh was awarded a Bronze Star for his service in the first Gulf War. He had been a top-scoring gunner with the 25mm cannon of the Bradley Fighting Vehicles used by the U.S. 1st Infantry Division to which he was assigned. He served at Fort Riley, Kansas, before Operation Desert Storm. At Fort Riley, McVeigh completed the Primary Leadership Development Course (PLDC). McVeigh later would say that the Army taught him how to switch off his emotions. He had special lifesaving training and may have saved the life of a comrade who had life-threatening shrapnel wounds.
McVeigh aspired to join the United States Army Special Forces (SF). After returning from the Gulf War, he entered the selection program to become an SF soldier, but he quit after his psychological profile categorized him as very unsuitable for SF. Shortly thereafter, McVeigh decided to leave the army. He was discharged on December 31, 1991. McVeigh was given an honorable discharge from the U.S. Army in May 1992.
McVeigh wasnt a genius tho, he was a medal winning soldier... a soldier, TAUGHT, to do the things he knew... and look at the damage he caused... a person with the right skillset, such as McVeigh, is extremely dangerous, his bomb however, was 2+ tons of ammonium nitrate, and Nitromethane, the gas used to run Top Fuel Dragsters and FUnny Cars... and is extremely expensive, and not the easiest to attain... the kids bombs, some were crude as of now, (the mortars), but the 2 parts that mixed, creating an initial explosion, is high grade proffesional stuff... i just doesnt add up is all im saying...
Quit hyping this [Bleeeeep!], Redhook. I'll put gullible in your list of traits. The guy basically has trip wires, fireworks, and gasoline. Any fool could contruct most of that with a trip to the rez and a couple hours at home.
"They were able to disable a trip wire that was set to go off when the apartment door was opened. "This is some serious stuff that our team is dealing with... there were multiple trip wires throughout the apartment. Investigators have also seen what appear to be mortars planted in the apartment -- sort of the kind of mortars that might be seen in a commercial fireworks show.
...they have seen a number of inflated balloons in the apartment... with many appearing to be filled with a powder. Also linked together are bottles of liquid. ...a strong smell of gasoline emanating from the apartment.
...several boxes on top of the refrigerator and there are lights flashing on the boxes.
...30 aerial shells (fireworks) commercially legally available for purchase. ...the suspect may have filled them with smokeless powder. ...entering the apartment would have caused a trip wire to trigger one liquid container to pour/mix with another. When the two mix together, they set off the main charge of the device which may be additional flammable liquids."
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You missed a quote AP-
Search "ACOG" if you don't believe me. It is also reported that Holmes bought 6,000 rounds of ammo, which definitely isn't cheap either, especially given that we now know half of those rounds were rifle rounds. It's clear this guy was spending big bucks. Whether it's $10k or $20k isn't really that much of a point.
How credible could the author be if he writes "if you don't believe me"
Sound familiar?
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its more or less a blog, not an actual "article"...
also, it doesnt say if the "mortars" were dink "Festival Balls", or, like you said, commercial grade 4 inch mortars, like in this video... that you can purchase at the rez...
what do you think 30 of them in an apartment is going to do? along with gas, and whatever else was in there?
like i said, i dont nessecarilly beleive all of it, but it is interesting... im sure no country has ever done anything like have someone commit (or commit themselves), a scenario like this to make waves...
Man has been killing man for millenia. Part of our humanity I guess. About the only thing that is a variable is the means and the method. Toss in a money grubbing media that lives on drama and you have the scenario for as mad a picture as you could desire. Chaos
entropy.
Wonder what bit of savagery the Olympics will engender.