Or just being a hypocrite?

I think both.

Romney is telling the crowd in Florida that Obama is planning on cutting $700 Billion from Medicare, to a chorus of booing.

What he doesn't tell them is that the $700 Billion is moving into the Affordable Care Act, and that it will be spent in exactly the same way, on the same things.

So, really, the money is not being cut at all.

Is that a lie?

Well, yes, it is.

What he's also not saying is that Ryan's budget plan cuts...drum roll...$700 Billion from Medicare.

Where's that money going?

Big surprise here...to pay for part of the tax cut for the rich.

That money IS leaving Medicare, not be used for senior health care.

Is that being a hypocrite?

Well, yes, it is.

I know it's not a big surprise to see Romney being both a liar and a hypocrite at the same time, and it's not even a big surprise to see him do both while attempting to scare old people into believing that Obama is going to cut their health care, while he, Romney, will not.

Surprising or not...not...just thought I'd bring it to your attention, in case you had missed it.

Fish on...

Todd

However Todd......

Using that logic would make every politician a liar and hypocrite.

Which they are unfortunately.

I wish polictians would just tell us what their positions are and leave it to the voting public to determine which platform they agree with.

Leave the bullsh!t out of it.

Will that ever happen......oh course not.

Sad but true.

The fact that you are quoting the Social Security Institute makes my point for me...they make Krauthammer look levelheaded, and Hank look moderate.

Fish on...

Todd

P.S. In case you didn't know, Marsha, the Social Security Institute is NOT a grassroots SS organization, nor is it a senior advocacy group, nor is a senior healthcare advocacy group...it is a made up group funded by and run by senior Republican advisors.

The AARP goes out of their way all the time to make sure people know that the SSI has nothing to do with seniors or senior advocacy, but is a mouthpiece for right wing entitlements bashers.

The group also started a FOR PROFIT group called the Alliance for Retirement Prospertity which pretty much bilks seniors out of money by scaring them into giving them their money.

If you are a senior and belong to or send money to either group, then you clearly are either being bilked, or don't need Social Security or Medicare.

I'm sure when Hank or Illy get around to it they'll have a Krauthammer or Hannity op-ed posing as "news" telling us how the SSI is the only thing standing between seniors' health and seniors being converted into Soylent Green.

Fish on...

Todd

Agreed Stam....

It would be a pleasant change to actually have ANY of them follow through on what they say that their positions are during a campaign.

This, for the win. I mean loss. Fawk.

I enjoyed Edward G.'s performance in Soylent Green. Now the premise is unnecessarny. We got better recreational chemicals
on the street available to everyone and you don't have to donate
your cadaver.
Those that think they can avoid the toxins that we
dump onto the planet are sts.
Joined AARP a while back. Can't beat the supplemental ins costs and
RX coverage.

Obamacare requires employers to fund insurance for workers. When you retire, you go into medicare.

They paid for medicare and the money has been stolen and put into a program, they are no longer part of. Obamacare cost curve has gone up and up and up according to the CBO. http://news.yahoo.com/cbo-obamacare-price-tag-shifts-940-billion-1-163500655.html

Its wont matter after January 20th. Obamacare will be gone.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law

All the toss-up states are within the margin of error, but not all states have recent polling. South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Minnesota, oregon, washington

Rasmussen already is putting giving Indiana-blue to romney and NC blue is leaning romney. Even Pennsylvania is not locked up for Obama. Colorado-blue is tied at 47% Ohio is tied at 45 and florida is 46-45 for Romney.

8+% unemployment U3 and U6 is over 16%
Obama has held at least twice as many fund raisers as Bush and is not getting the money. Romney has outraised him several months. Crowds are way down for Obama and crowds are up for Romney.
Undecided voters vote for the challenger.
Obama approval under 50%
Turnout favors republicans

Registered voter polls typically poll 9-12% more democrats. Yet, they are not likely voters which are called closer to November. Rasmussen accuracy of predicting obama would win in 08
52-46 actual 53-46

Oh, if you get married, obama wants a donation. so hurry....