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#782004 - 08/30/12 12:01 AM What would you ask Obama in a live chat?
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#782006 - 08/30/12 12:11 AM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
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You mean dweeb?
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#782007 - 08/30/12 12:16 AM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: Sol Duc]
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inb4 todd

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#782008 - 08/30/12 12:16 AM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: Sol Duc]
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Need help moving ?
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#782014 - 08/30/12 12:36 AM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
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#782021 - 08/30/12 12:50 AM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: 2MANY

Why didn't the seals get Biden's jokes?


aware

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#782099 - 08/30/12 12:12 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
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Mr. President, can you please find a cure for stupid so that we don't have to continue to put up with these RWWJ's?
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#782123 - 08/30/12 12:56 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: stlhead]
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Mr. President, your appointments to the Sec. of Treasury, SEC, and the Federal Reserve are either the same people or from the same group of people who have served under the previous presidents who created the current financial mess and have no incentive to restore middle class prosperity in America and always have and always will work on behalf of the upper 0.001 of wealthy Americans and corporations. That is inconsistent with the "Hope and Change" theme you campaigned on. Why did you do such a [Bleeeeep!] dumb thing? And having done such a [Bleeeeep!] dumb thing, why shouldn't your azz be kicked to the curb? Can Romney actually do any worse?

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#782130 - 08/30/12 01:08 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
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With all your promises why has nothing changed for the middle class , why did you allow the people that caused our economic collapse to not only avoid prosecution but profit from their misdeeds. Why have you accepted campaign donations from these very people? Why have you not named them and called them out publically ?
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#782150 - 08/30/12 02:51 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
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#782151 - 08/30/12 02:51 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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I'd go with Salmo G's question and also add on a part about not only his continuation of Bush's illegal spying on U.S. citizens but the drastic EXPANSION of that and similar programs.

One thing that I find slightly amusing is that people on both sides seem to dislike him now... which I actually think means he will get re-elected. The "liberal wackos" are pissed that he campaigned on the idea of drastic change and we didn't get it. The "rightwing wackos" are pissed that he campaigned on the idea of change and has apparently changed things too much. It is odd the all the mainstream memes are either that he has "done too much" yet "has done nothing". You even see the RWWJs around here state similar things, oftentimes in the same post.

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#782152 - 08/30/12 02:51 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
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What about this transparency issue?
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#782168 - 08/30/12 03:12 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
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Your first order of business when becoming President was to close Guantanamo. How is that process coming?
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#782176 - 08/30/12 03:41 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
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Mr President, why do we have no manned space travel program any more and still have GITMO?
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#782183 - 08/30/12 04:00 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: AuntyM
Originally Posted By: stlhead
Mr. President, can you please find a cure for stupid so that we don't have to continue to put up with these RWWJ's?


If he found a cure for stupid, you wouldn't exist anymore sh!thd. moose

And I say that with affection. wink


Only because there would no longer be a need for me.
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#782198 - 08/30/12 05:08 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
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#782210 - 08/30/12 05:30 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
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Do you think they will stick to being the suicidal party of no during your second term?
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#782237 - 08/30/12 06:50 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
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when are you going to stop going on vacations and to all the sporting events and get your A$$ back in the oval and do something!!!!!
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#782245 - 08/30/12 07:19 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
stlhead Offline
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A pres who can handle his alcohol and probably even pretzels....imagine that.
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#782250 - 08/30/12 07:41 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
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i would ask why he hates America...

when the chopper went down in Afghanistan with all the SEALS on board, he didnt even sign the letters to the families personally.. they were all auto penned form letters...

even the evil GWB has done far better than that, with 4000 letters personally signed and sent, plus he went and saw the families personally...

Obama can suck it...

oh heres another tidbit,

when Heavy D died, he sent a personal letter to his parents... whome was never in the military, nor every fought for this country... and wasnt even born in the USA..


Edited by redhook (08/30/12 07:52 PM)

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#782261 - 08/30/12 09:08 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
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Has there ever, as in EVER, been another president who blamed their predecessor for his own inability to accomplish anything for an entire term?
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#782266 - 08/30/12 09:26 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ParaLeaks]
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That's the thing that really pisses me off the most, pure classlessness. He's the only prez that I've seen do this. flog
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#782272 - 08/30/12 09:40 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: stlhead]
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Originally Posted By: stlhead
Mr. President, can you please find a cure for stupid so that we don't have to continue to put up with these RWWJ's?

beer agree
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#782282 - 08/30/12 09:58 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster




Wow you can cut and paste! How clever you are
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#782420 - 08/31/12 01:48 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
I'm pretty annoying for my RWHJ's C&P talents around here. smile


There fixed it for ya! grin


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#782426 - 08/31/12 02:02 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: Somethingsmellsf]
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BWP,

OK, not the same exact person, but from the same group of people. My point and my issue is that regardless of who the president is, the Treas. Sec, the SEC commissioners, and the members of the FED are all members of what can be considered a fraternity of financial services corporate frat boys who are soley looking out for #1 and don't give a rat's azz about the majority of Americans. So even tho Obama has appointed a couple SEC commissioners, he appoints members from the same group of azzholes who created and remain responsible for this financial mess, and have not prosecuted anyone for the crime, because they don't prosecute their frat brothers. I want the revolution where we take every one of those sumbitches out on the Capitol Mall for public beheadings!

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#782458 - 08/31/12 05:30 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
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"Why? What is it you think he accomplished in 8 years? Not a hell of a lot"



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#782475 - 08/31/12 08:14 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: Sol Duc]
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Originally Posted By: Sol Duc
"Why? What is it you think he accomplished in 8 years? Not a hell of a lot"



thumbs


No wonder O likes him!
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#782519 - 08/31/12 10:20 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: Salmo g.]
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Originally Posted By: Salmo g.
BWP,

OK, not the same exact person, but from the same group of people. My point and my issue is that regardless of who the president is, the Treas. Sec, the SEC commissioners, and the members of the FED are all members of what can be considered a fraternity of financial services corporate frat boys who are soley looking out for #1 and don't give a rat's azz about the majority of Americans. So even tho Obama has appointed a couple SEC commissioners, he appoints members from the same group of azzholes who created and remain responsible for this financial mess, and have not prosecuted anyone for the crime, because they don't prosecute their frat brothers. I want the revolution where we take every one of those sumbitches out on the Capitol Mall for public beheadings!


I would have never expected that from you,------,the "public beheadings" part.
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#782521 - 08/31/12 10:23 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: Sol Duc]
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Mr. President Obama, have you asked Mr. Bill to explain the proper uses of the oval office?
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#782711 - 09/02/12 04:37 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: blackmouth]
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Blackmouth,

I favor transparency of public discourse, so yes, the beheadings must be in a public place, and since it's the nation's solvency and culture that is at stake, the Capitol Mall is the most approprieate location. I try to carefully think things through.

Sg

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#782714 - 09/02/12 06:07 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: Salmo g.]
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Mr. President, will you please tone down (or kick the ever loving shitt out of) your tofu eatin, anti gun & anti hunting, anti trapping whacked out socialist lovin, patchouli oil drenched, treehugging California Democratic hippie freak friends that make life so embarrassingly difficult for the humans that actually have to live in this goddamnn state?

Thank you.....
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#782739 - 09/02/12 09:05 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: Salmonella]
Todd Offline
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I'm pretty sure that Obama didn't vote in any politicians in California...you'd have to talk to the California voters for that.

Fish on...

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#782741 - 09/02/12 09:45 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: Salmonella]
ParaLeaks Offline
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Originally Posted By: Salmonella
Mr. President, will you please tone down (or kick the ever loving shitt out of) your tofu eatin, anti gun & anti hunting, anti trapping whacked out socialist lovin, patchouli oil drenched, treehugging California Democratic hippie freak friends that make life so embarrassingly difficult for the humans that actually have to live in this goddamnn state?

Thank you.....



rofl

Not bad!
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#782744 - 09/02/12 10:08 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ParaLeaks]
Illahee Offline
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Mr. President, would now be a good time to invest heavily in guns and ammo stocks, or should I wait until all the angry scared white folks buy everything on the shelves and create a shortage?

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#782806 - 09/03/12 05:31 AM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: Illahee]
RB3 Offline
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Why did they cancel Man, Woman, Wild?

I told everyone that Gitmo wasn't going to close. Probably won't ever. If it does they will just move the 'tainers to a different location. Still tons of real valuable intel coming out of them durrr yayhooos

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#782825 - 09/03/12 11:06 AM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: RB3]
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Far more terrorists are imprisoned in Afganistan and Iraq than ever will be at Git Mo.



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#782838 - 09/03/12 12:03 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
Jerry Garcia Offline



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Originally Posted By: 2MANY

How was Stam's party?



GREAT
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#782839 - 09/03/12 12:07 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
ParaLeaks Offline
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Originally Posted By: 2MANY

How was Stam's party?


You would ask Oblabla that?? rofl
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#782858 - 09/03/12 02:17 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: Somethingsmellsf]
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Fishy,

Most of those places are now run by afghans and iraqis. I was there and we trained a lot of Iraqis before we left country. Many tainers from other countries such as Lebanon and Qatar just to name a few. Gitmo has a higher value or hvd of detainees.

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#783197 - 09/04/12 11:51 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: Salmo g.]
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Originally Posted By: Salmo g.
Blackmouth,

I favor transparency of public discourse, so yes, the beheadings must be in a public place, and since it's the nation's solvency and culture that is at stake, the Capitol Mall is the most (approprieate)sp, location. I try to carefully think things through.

Sg


I see.

I also believe in public discourse: unless, however my veil may be removed, and my true nature is reveiled.

Now, beheadings are a totally different matter.
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#783212 - 09/05/12 12:45 AM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
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#783225 - 09/05/12 01:32 AM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: wntrrn]
Illahee Offline
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Originally Posted By: wntrrn
"Mr President, does KK spit or swallow?" Said the gizz guzzling sperm burper.



Fixed it for ya.

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#783230 - 09/05/12 02:09 AM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: blue water pro
Beheadings are completely appropriate for treason.


And the arbiter of "treason" would be?

And I should put my faith in you, O, enlightened one?,


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#783280 - 09/05/12 02:16 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: blackmouth]
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Mr O were you born or hatched in the United States?

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#783301 - 09/05/12 03:28 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: Illyrian]
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Mr. President: it's been said that everybody's got a price. What was yours?

I seem to share many of Salmo g.'s thoughts on the President's first term. I had no illusions that he would be allowed by Congress and big business to realize much (if any) of the change he promised during his campaign. Somehow, I did have high hopes that he would at least use his executive power to prevent further attacks on the middle class. Obviously, those hopes were unfounded, as he has picked up right were his predecessors left off. As much as I don't care for Romney, I agree that he couldn't be much worse.

While I won't go so far as to publicly advocate public beheadings (GITMO is, lest we forget, still alive and well), I do believe a revolution is the only way the working people in this country will be able to stop oppression at the hands of the .0001. History gives us no reason to believe otherwise. In my mind, what I have heard the President say since his election sounds a lot like "Let them eat cake." Or, was it corn?

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#783331 - 09/05/12 06:04 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: FleaFlickr02]
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His ineptitude authors many of the middle class attacks. His politics
don't allow for a middle class anyway. They are all untermenchen.

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#783333 - 09/05/12 06:07 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: Illyrian]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Mr. President, why do you think Illy has to lie about his IQ score?
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#783340 - 09/05/12 06:21 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: Dan S.]
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rofl Got a burr under your jock Dan? Oh...maybe you don't need
a jock. Sorry. (I can almost predict the response)

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#783486 - 09/06/12 02:09 AM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: FleaFlickr02]
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Originally Posted By: FleaFlickr02
Mr. President: it's been said that everybody's got a price. What was yours?

I seem to share many of Salmo g.'s thoughts on the President's first term. I had no illusions that he would be allowed by Congress and big business to realize much (if any) of the change he promised during his campaign. Somehow, I did have high hopes that he would at least use his executive power to prevent further attacks on the middle class. Obviously, those hopes were unfounded, as he has picked up right were his predecessors left off. As much as I don't care for Romney, I agree that he couldn't be much worse.

While I won't go so far as to publicly advocate public beheadings (GITMO is, lest we forget, still alive and well), I do believe a revolution is the only way the working people in this country will be able to stop oppression at the hands of the .0001. History gives us no reason to believe otherwise. In my mind, what I have heard the President say since his election sounds a lot like "Let them eat cake." Or, was it corn?


Our current President, Mr Obama had complete control of Congress for two years, and how did he use his time when he had total control of the worlds most powerful country?

I remember Golf, Basketball, and Bowling, with a cheeseburger snuck in here or and there.

Well now, Mr. Bill is on the tube, and I want to be watching, because you never know what he might do next.










Basketball
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#783541 - 09/06/12 12:41 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: blackmouth]
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Originally Posted By: blackmouth


Our current President, Mr Obama had complete control of Congress for two years, and how did he use his time when he had total control of the worlds most powerful country?

I remember Golf, Basketball, and Bowling, with a cheeseburger snuck in here or and there.

Well now, Mr. Bill is on the tube, and I want to be watching, because you never know what he might do next.


Ours is a system of checks and balances, by design, so that no single branch can govern autonomously. As much as we like to give presidents credit for progress and shame them for a lack thereof, they ultimately don't accomplish anything significant without buy-in from the Legislative (and occasionally Judicial) branches. We're that not the case, our fair republic would be a dictatorship. I like that system in principle, but in practice, it creates gridlock and convenient excuses for maintaining the status quo.

True, Obama had a party majority in Congress for his first two years. Trouble is, Legislators don't always vote the party line, especially when there are votes to be won and money to be made by voting to the contrary. Getting a 2/3 majority for Legislation that doesn't benefit big business can be a real bitch, no matter the party to whom those accepting the bribes subscribe.

To be clear, I have been disappointed in this administration; I just feel that the President should only be accountable for somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 of the failures. I grant his predecessor the same measurement and therefore hold him less accountable than most for the crimes against society enacted during his tenure.

As regards golf, basketball, etc.: who gives a damn? At least those activities take away some of the time he might otherwise spend conspiring with the other branches to squeeze more blood from the lowly, withered turnip that once was our middle class. Besides, I think one could argue that by exercising, he is setting a good example for an increasingly sedentary and overweight population. Might be his best contribution to the general welfare during his term.

I stand by my regretful assertion that only the people will be able to right the wrongs, and most likely, if it does happen, it will be by sheer strength in numbers.

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#783567 - 09/06/12 02:47 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
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Registered: 10/28/09
Posts: 3339
There is a concept of executive order, which I agree is being abused more and more these days. Duly noted. However, the President CANNOT enact legislation or interpret the Constitution, so those checks are still in place. If the Judicial Branch allows a President's executive order to stand, it is because they don't believe it represents a breach of Constitutionality. Unfortunately, the gray area is getting dangerously large in those departments....

I hope you don't gather from my remarks that I am any sort of presidential apologist; my point is that to directly accredit changes to the laws that affect our everyday lives to the acting President is perhaps less than accurate analysis. Even if the President's name is Bush. Fair enough?

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#783574 - 09/06/12 03:08 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
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Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
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Hank, that is kinda how it works...pass laws, or executive orders, and if someone doesn't like them they take them to court and the judicial branch will tell them if it's cool or not...the judicial branch can't even look at the issue until it is an actual case and someone has alleged some harm.

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#783579 - 09/06/12 03:14 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
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Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Well, it's more than "apparent this Administration thinks it can make its own immigration law"...it's legal, and proper, and happening.

Got a problem with that?

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#783589 - 09/06/12 04:03 PM Re: What would you ask Obama in a live chat? [Re: ]
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Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
No, Hank...it's legal for him to do it...if someone sues and the court decides to look at it, then we'll find out if the policy itself is legal.

Fish on...

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