#784643 - 09/10/12 01:59 PM
Re: Job Creation: Pesky facts getting in the way..
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And the conservatives are better at budgeting!
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#784707 - 09/10/12 05:13 PM
Re: Job Creation: Pesky facts getting in the way..
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Comparing Democratic and Republican tax plans The Republicans' plan to extend the Bush administration tax cuts for the wealthy would cost $36.6 billion more than the Democrats' plan, which extends cuts only for families making less than $250,000 a year and individuals making less than $200,000. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2010/08/11/GR2010081106717.htmlFishy
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#784779 - 09/10/12 10:19 PM
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What we need is a comprehensive approach that curtails spending while spreading the tax burden equitably, ensuring that all citizens prosper.
Looking at historical facts show that corporations and the wealthy have paid more in taxes during particularly prosperous times.
If people do not have the money they cannot demand more products and services.
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#784808 - 09/10/12 11:28 PM
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Looking at historical facts show that corporations and the wealthy have paid more in taxes during particularly prosperous times.
Are you saying these are particularly prosperous times? No, re-read the article and my comments. Fishy
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#784812 - 09/10/12 11:30 PM
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What we need is a comprehensive approach that curtails spending while spreading the tax burden equitably, ensuring that all citizens prosper. Then maybe the dems should have worked on that when they had the chance, instead of passing Obamacare which will make the economy even worse. Please, like the Dems stood around and looked at ways to make our economy worse, ask other people about the healthcare Obama legislated and you'll get many positive responses. Fishy
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#784827 - 09/11/12 12:06 AM
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What we need is a comprehensive approach that curtails spending while spreading the tax burden equitably, ensuring that all citizens prosper. Then maybe the dems should have worked on that when they had the chance, instead of passing Obamacare which will make the economy even worse. Is that the offical ding bat position?
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#784849 - 09/11/12 01:11 AM
Re: Job Creation: Pesky facts getting in the way..
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"What we need is a comprehensive approach that curtails spending while spreading the tax burden equitably, ensuring that all citizens prosper. "
Totally agree. So, how we gonna get the 50% of the population that pays no taxes to buck up? Increase their wages retroactively from the mid seventies when wages stagnated and have not kept up with the rate of inflation and the 1% has reaped unconscionable increases to their bottom lines. See graph at left!  Fishy
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#784855 - 09/11/12 01:30 AM
Re: Job Creation: Pesky facts getting in the way..
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"What we need is a comprehensive approach that curtails spending while spreading the tax burden equitably, ensuring that all citizens prosper. "
Totally agree. So, how we gonna get the 50% of the population that pays no taxes to buck up? Increase their wages retroactively from the mid seventies when wages stagnated and have not kept up with the rate of inflation and the 1% has reaped unconscionable increases to their bottom lines. See graph at left! Fishy Do you know why it hasnt kept up with inflation? Do you know what causes inflation?
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#784885 - 09/11/12 08:38 AM
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What we need is a comprehensive approach that curtails spending while spreading the tax burden equitably, ensuring that all citizens prosper.
Fishy My thoughts exactly, when the lower 50% pay less than 2.5% of the federal tax burden, it's time to make some changes.
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#784910 - 09/11/12 11:10 AM
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What we need is a comprehensive approach that curtails spending while spreading the tax burden equitably, ensuring that all citizens prosper.
Fishy My thoughts exactly, when the lower 50% pay less than 2.5% of the federal tax burden, it's time to make some changes. What changes would that be JG? Fishy
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#784914 - 09/11/12 11:22 AM
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"What we need is a comprehensive approach that curtails spending while spreading the tax burden equitably, ensuring that all citizens prosper. "
Totally agree. So, how we gonna get the 50% of the population that pays no taxes to buck up? Increase their wages retroactively from the mid seventies when wages stagnated and have not kept up with the rate of inflation and the 1% has reaped unconscionable increases to their bottom lines. See graph at left! Fishy Do you know why it hasnt kept up with inflation? Do you know what causes inflation? Two examples of why you get such pointed responses, please don't act like your the only one that understands these things! Fishy
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#784925 - 09/11/12 11:54 AM
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What we need is a comprehensive approach that curtails spending while spreading the tax burden equitably, ensuring that all citizens prosper.
Fishy My thoughts exactly, when the lower 50% pay less than 2.5% of the federal tax burden, it's time to make some changes. I have always been a very firm believer that people make better choices and are more responsible when they have even just a little "skin in the game".
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#784958 - 09/11/12 01:03 PM
Re: Job Creation: Pesky facts getting in the way..
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What we need is a comprehensive approach that curtails spending while spreading the tax burden equitably, ensuring that all citizens prosper.
Fishy My thoughts exactly, when the lower 50% pay less than 2.5% of the federal tax burden, it's time to make some changes. What changes would that be JG? Fishy Everyone should contribute some federal income tax.
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#784994 - 09/11/12 02:28 PM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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The beneficial part is that JG would stop sniveling.
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#785012 - 09/11/12 03:02 PM
Re: Job Creation: Pesky facts getting in the way..
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What we need is a comprehensive approach that curtails spending while spreading the tax burden equitably, ensuring that all citizens prosper.
Fishy My thoughts exactly, when the lower 50% pay less than 2.5% of the federal tax burden, it's time to make some changes. I have always been a very firm believer that people make better choices and are more responsible when they have even just a little "skin in the game". So you don't think the person struggling to pay for rent,food,healthcare and education doesn't already have skin in the game? Under your direction even if they get some type of public assistance they should pay? So we would be paying ourselves back instead of looking for ways to give them a hand up so that they can contribute. I guess I don't see any logic there what so ever. Fishy
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#785040 - 09/11/12 03:53 PM
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Unless there is political pressure and some sort of financial incentive to bring jobs back that we've lost over the last couple of decades, we'll continue to support more and more poor.
They don't need more welfare and they don't need to contribute a pittance in taxes. They need to pay LOTS of taxes and that won't happen without decent jobs.
The dialog needs to take place, but it won't be taking place with Obama at the head of the table. It isn't just Republicans that won't work with him. Business won't either. With Romney, we have a better shot at getting big business to help out because even they will realize, if we can't afford their consumer goods, they won't see profits. There is already movement in manufacturing jobs being brought back. Your right we don't need people to pay a pittance in taxes we need people to pay lots of taxes. If people do not have money they cannot demand the goods and services that create JOBS, that is what creates jobs. Not tax cuts for corporations that are already making record profits. Romney has a record of not creating jobs but personal income and leaving the tax payer with the bill so I don't see where he will be any different at getting big business to "help out". Fishy
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