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#793985 - 10/22/12 10:09 PM Tonight's Debate on foreign policy......
ParaLeaks Offline
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rolleyes

Terrible!! No winner coming out of this, IMO.
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#793990 - 10/22/12 10:27 PM Re: Tonight's Debate on foreign policy...... [Re: ParaLeaks]
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So far...

Romney: I applaud the President for doing A, B, and C, but I would have done D, too.

Obama: We did D, too.

Romney: Oh.

Obama: Also, remember last year when you said you would never do A, B, or C, because they were terrible ideas?

Romney: Huh?

That's how every topic has gone so far. It's about time that Romney gets called to the floor for changing his mind on every single issue over the past several years. Long past about fuckin time, really.

He's getting his ass kicked on this one.

Fish on...

Todd
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#793991 - 10/22/12 10:28 PM Re: Tonight's Debate on foreign policy...... [Re: Todd]
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That being said...at least he hasn't claimed he can see Russia from ___________.

Fish on...

Todd

P.S. The "blank" is for putting in Utah, Massachusetts, or Michigan, whichever one is his hometown today.
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#793994 - 10/22/12 10:41 PM Re: Tonight's Debate on foreign policy...... [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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That was a bigger ass whoopin' than the last one, only because Romney professed to support virtually everything the President has already done, and was also shown to have changed his mind on those things in the recent past.

Romney didn't look bad or anything, but he didn't draw any distinctions between the two of them, or why he'd be better at it than Obama has been. Like I said above, he mainly agreed with the President, said "you should have done this" when the President already did, and was shown to be a pretty fantastical flip flopper.

Fish on...

Todd
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#793997 - 10/22/12 10:46 PM Re: Tonight's Debate on foreign policy...... [Re: Todd]
Todd Offline
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Romney: "Syria is Iran's route to the sea"

Uhhh...Syria and Iran don't even share a border...and Iran has a pretty significant coastline of its own. Iran would have to go through Iraq or Turkey to get to the Mediterranean Sea, if that's what he meant, and those would be infinitely less likely than getting through Syria would be.

Fish on...

Todd
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#794007 - 10/22/12 11:00 PM Re: Tonight's Debate on foreign policy...... [Re: ]
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Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA
Obama won. Romney lost.
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#794008 - 10/22/12 11:00 PM Re: Tonight's Debate on foreign policy...... [Re: ]
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The American auto industry is vital to our national interest as an employer and as a hub for manufacturing. A managed bankruptcy may be the only path to the fundamental restructuring the industry needs. It would permit the companies to shed excess labor, pension and real estate costs. The federal government should provide guarantees for post-bankruptcy financing and assure car buyers that their warranties are not at risk.


So who said this?
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#794010 - 10/22/12 11:04 PM Re: Tonight's Debate on foreign policy...... [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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Probably Mitt. Obama would never go that direction

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#794011 - 10/22/12 11:06 PM Re: Tonight's Debate on foreign policy...... [Re: Steelheadman]
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Originally Posted By: Steelheadman
Obama won. Romney lost.


Obama began to lose in 2010. The loss will be complete in November.

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#794023 - 10/22/12 11:30 PM Re: Tonight's Debate on foreign policy...... [Re: ]
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Thought Edgar was mourning the loss of Russell Means the Indian activist from Wounded Knee.

Obama Wins Debate #3 Big Time
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#794025 - 10/22/12 11:34 PM Re: Tonight's Debate on foreign policy...... [Re: Steelheadman]
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It's all Bob Schieffer's fault.

Or, if that doesn't work, it's still Candy Crowley's fault.

Fish on...

Todd

P.S. It's Romney's fault. Being called out for just making up his opinions depending on his audience is why he got his ass kicked tonight.
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#794029 - 10/22/12 11:50 PM Re: Tonight's Debate on foreign policy...... [Re: Todd]
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Romney is a good student. He wont lie about a video after calling it a terror attack, that Candy Crowley walked back, after the debate. If it was a terror attack, why lie about for a couple weeks blaming the video. Obama spent 70 grand in Pakistan apologizing for the video on TV in Pakistan. That buys a lot of ad time.

He failed completely in Libya and covered up a failed policy. They pulled people out, after the compound was attacked in April and June. Then pulled the 15 man defense force, straight from the head guy who testified in front of congress.

He failed. four people are dead.

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#794033 - 10/22/12 11:58 PM Re: Tonight's Debate on foreign policy...... [Re: Fast and Furious]
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FnF, that effort is pisspoor, even compared to Romney's pisspoor effort tonight.

Fish on...

Todd
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#794039 - 10/23/12 12:09 AM Re: Tonight's Debate on foreign policy...... [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
FnF, that effort is pisspoor, even compared to Romney's pisspoor effort tonight.

Fish on...

Todd


Not my problem if you cannot argue the points made. Your critque is not a valid response. Candy Crowley got the rose garden transcripts at the request of the campaign, after she took Obama campaign guy David...... to task for the tape aftermath. They used her, cause she only glanced at the transcripts and she later walked it back. Its on youtube. She screwed up and they took advantage of her.

You just can't face it when your guy fks up.

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#794047 - 10/23/12 12:24 AM Re: Tonight's Debate on foreign policy...... [Re: ]
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rofl Oh ya, after 4 years, he's an expert.

Biden is suppose to be the "expert" and he told Obama not to go thru with the Bin Laden kill.

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#794052 - 10/23/12 12:30 AM Re: Tonight's Debate on foreign policy...... [Re: ]
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Is there any truth to what Todd or K.K. say? grin
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#794070 - 10/23/12 01:02 AM Re: Tonight's Debate on foreign policy...... [Re: ]
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Somebody asked Pakistan for permission once. I cannot remember if it was Obama or not.

Wasn't a smart idea to tell Pakistan that it was the doctor who gave Bin Laden up. They threw him in jail.

nice going.

Thats how Obama treats his friends.

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#794074 - 10/23/12 01:10 AM Re: Tonight's Debate on foreign policy...... [Re: ]
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Obama took Romney to school on the difference between a 1917 navy and a 2012 navy - had to explain it to him in child like terms.

Moderate Mitt and now peace loving Mitt showed up tonight. He lost the debate, but he looked good and didn't hurt himself. Romney has the momentum going into this last two weeks and although Obama won, I think the momentum will remain on Romney's side.

Will the momentum be enough to pull him to the top in the states that matter? We will find out in two weeks.

For those of you who have settled on Romney, which of the many faces of Romney do you think will show up to govern this country, if he wins?
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#794076 - 10/23/12 01:30 AM Re: Tonight's Debate on foreign policy...... [Re: Idaho Mike]
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hmmm choices, choices...

well i cant bring myself to support either pile of trash...

this sums up exactly how i feel about both of them...


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#794078 - 10/23/12 01:37 AM Re: Tonight's Debate on foreign policy...... [Re: Idaho Mike]
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Originally Posted By: Mike@North Bend
Obama took Romney to school on the difference between a 1917 navy and a 2012 navy - had to explain it to him in child like terms.

Moderate Mitt and now peace loving Mitt showed up tonight. He lost the debate, but he looked good and didn't hurt himself. Romney has the momentum going into this last two weeks and although Obama won, I think the momentum will remain on Romney's side.

Will the momentum be enough to pull him to the top in the states that matter? We will find out in two weeks.

For those of you who have settled on Romney, which of the many faces of Romney do you think will show up to govern this country, if he wins?


liberals are condenscending to everyone. Even you. It wasnt a serious answer, it was for his base. Trouble is, they are suppose to be the adults in the room. They have to deal with foreign leaders and Obama problaby treats them the same way. Under Obama, he wants our military and our standing in the world to be diminished. It will put everyone at risk. Jimmy Carter did the same thing. Carter was a disaster in Foreign policy.
I realize, it easy to talk about the various positions Romney has held, during his MA tenure compared to now. I only care about one thing. What he says today, is what he does during his term. Thats all. A lot of people switch parites including Reagan. It doesn't seem to be held against them, by the party they switch to. Romney was a governor with 87% democrats. He was not in texas. You want to run for office and win, you better be intouch with voters. That why a conservative, like Santorum will never get elected in Wa. Why bother to run...

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