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#796788 - 11/02/12 01:23 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
CedarR Offline
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Registered: 08/04/99
Posts: 1431
Loc: Olympia, WA
Gas was $3.46 at Lacey Fred Meyer today. Probably less if you've got a card. That's a 50 cent drop in a fairly short time. Should we blame the President? How outraged should we be?

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#796792 - 11/02/12 01:30 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: CedarR]
Salmo g. Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Yeah, it's Obama's fault that the oil companies are making $0.50 less a gallon. Dammmmm Obamer.

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#796809 - 11/02/12 03:02 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
Fast and Furious Offline
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There you go. See, the liars and coverup is all ok now. A new timeline has been released.

yippee.

They still left soldiers to die in the field. Guess thats ok with Obama supporters like you. I really don't know how anyone could vote for a piece of crap like that. Hillary is no better. If she had an OUNCE of integrity, she would have resigned in disgrace.

The timeline left out a couple things. The local libyan police, that were suppose to be protecting the Ambassador, was taking photos of the compound and it was reported by the staff. Nothing was done.

How long before the Obama supporters own up to the fact the location had been attacked in April and June. That the UK and the red cross had both left and then instead of pulling out. Obama or clinton pulled the 15 man security force. We should never have stayed in the country. Stupid ass, foreign policy had to be seen as a success, at any cost.


Edited by Fast and Furious (11/02/12 03:14 AM)

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#796813 - 11/02/12 04:04 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
Fast and Furious Offline
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Registered: 12/30/07
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Time is running out. Fox has flushed enough information out, that other networks will eventually talk about it. You point the finger at Fox, but it was Obama that spoke generically about terror attacks then jetted off to a fund raiser, then put Rice on the lieing tour and away we go. Check your own reality. We were lied to and they left americans defenseless to die, and they were in the whitehouse when it happened. All your timeline means daytime in DC. They had no excuses and plenty of warnings and requests, which they turned down. They had jets one hour away. The attacks lasted about seven hours.

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#796920 - 11/02/12 03:16 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Fast and Furious]
Salmo g. Offline
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Looks like the CIA report messes up F&F's preconceived notions of what went down and when.

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#796931 - 11/02/12 03:37 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Salmo g.]
Illyrian Offline
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Registered: 12/20/09
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Gee I wonder who vetted that report?

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#796948 - 11/02/12 04:15 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
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It is a sad day when valuable people are squandered and there is nothing humorous in those regards...






but I love a good conspiracy and this one is shaping up nicely. I hope the responsibility falls squarely on the shoulders of the guilty.
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#797008 - 11/02/12 07:48 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: JTD]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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Hank finally got this thing right.

It is also the same reason you don't hear Romney talking about this anymore. He recently got access to the classified info and knows it isn't a "winning issue" against Obama.

It seems like the yapping America-haters got ahead of themselves on this one.

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#797035 - 11/02/12 09:29 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Illyrian]
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Illy, fret not; all your Obama-hatin' goons will have their chance to go through it with the proverbial fine tooth comb.

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#797047 - 11/02/12 10:18 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Salmo g.]
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The "stand down" order now supposedly never happened.
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#797109 - 11/03/12 02:41 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Fox was just as evenhanded as the "fair and balanced" here...Illy, FnF, and Hank.

Fish on...

Todd
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#797125 - 11/03/12 09:50 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
ParaLeaks Offline
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Originally Posted By: AuntyM
Are they as even handed as CBS? The story is 3 days old, but it's still pertinent. They have their "own" sources, yet the story is similar to Faux.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-5754...nsulate-attack/


Here's a dandy part for the Administration Brainwashed......

Quote:
National Security Council Spokesman Tommy Vietor told CBS News "From the moment the President was briefed on the Benghazi attack, the response effort was handled by the most senior national security officials in governments. Members of the CSG were of course involved in these meetings and discussions to support their bosses."


Now just WHO do you think they are talking about??? Duh.


Edited by Slab Happy (11/03/12 09:51 AM)
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#797145 - 11/03/12 12:07 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Illyrian]
gvbest Offline
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Right because the CIA or Administration always tells the truth. I believe the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Its not just Fox that has been reporting a similar story. Those of you that believe what the CIA/Administration say 100% are just as big of idiots as those that believe FOX/CBS (any news source for that matter) 100%.
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#797147 - 11/03/12 12:16 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Salmo g.]
Illyrian Offline
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Loc: Spokane, wa
Salmo, I am not an Obamma hater. I do wish he would go back to
work in Chicago organizing communities. He and Emmanuel make
a winsome pair of bed fellows.
I believe, in spite of the First Black President bit, that he is bad
for the USA. He isn't uppity enough for foreign relations and his
economic policies make W look like a genius.

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#797157 - 11/03/12 12:40 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Salmo g.]
Fast and Furious Offline
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Registered: 12/30/07
Posts: 3116
Originally Posted By: Salmo g.
Illy, fret not; all your Obama-hatin' goons will have their chance to go through it with the proverbial fine tooth comb.


You need a hug?

Those who do not want the answers, are part of the problem. What is so hard to understand? After at least two attacks in April and June, then the security force is removed and the Ambassador is not pulled out, like UK did, coming up to an anniversary of 9-11. Then spend two weeks or more blaming it on a video?
They should have been pulled out in JUNE!

Who needs a fine tooth comb. A push broom is more than adequate.

If the president had a case to make, how come the only other network beginning to speak is CBS.

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#797438 - 11/04/12 12:01 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
ParaLeaks Offline
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Posts: 10363
Loc: Olypen
I nominate you for the brainwashing poster child.
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#797508 - 11/04/12 08:14 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
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smile and wipe your monitor
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#797519 - 11/04/12 10:09 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ParaLeaks]
Jerry Garcia Offline



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So Fox is entertainment TV because they offer both sides of the story? The big 3 networks have yet to offer any side.
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#797543 - 11/04/12 01:13 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Jerry Garcia]
DBAppraiser Offline
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Registered: 07/06/09
Posts: 1138
Loc: MA13
The left and BWP can bitch about Fox all they want, but the fact remains that this administration trotted out Amb Rice and knowingly lied to the American people about who was behind this attack and what the nature of this attack was. Fact is, the Admin panicked because they were dealing with falling poll numbers at that time and someone or some people decided that spinning this tragedy and blaming a You Tube video was a smart play.

If Watergate had been investigated as loosely as today's media has investigated this event, Nixon would have completed his term at a minimum.

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#797558 - 11/04/12 02:49 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
Salmo g. Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13453
Hank,

I couldn't tell if the following opinion was part of Max Boot's commentary, but it just doesn't make sense:

". . . "Why would our president not come to the defense of our consulate under attack? This is an attack on American soil. This was a 9/11 attack by an al-Qaeda branch in Libya. Therein lies the answer.

Obama does not believe in using the military to defend our national security, which he sees as aggressive, Republican, and cowboy. This was Obama's 9/11, not Bush's. He did not see the attack on our embassy as a jihadi attack on American soil. He saw a group of aggrieved Muslim citizens, with good reason to be angry -- the spontaneous mob enraged by an offensive video. He would follow a Democrat policy of promoting peace, not war, in which avoiding civilian casualties is the paramount goal.

The other answer is directly political. It would be damaging for Obama's already weak record to admit that there was a 9/11 attack by al-Qaeda in one of the supposed successes of the Arab Spring. Responding militarily would have made the weaknesses of Obama's foreign policy all too evident. An American military response would have undercut one of Obama's main campaign slogans: "GM is alive and Osama is dead.". . ."

It doesn't make sense to me because I don't see how Obama or anyone in the administration could have seen any possible benefit in not aiding the US diplomatic mission. And directly denying aid and directly giving a "stand down" order can only go from bad to worse. Since there is no potential political upside, I can't help but question the criticisms as anything other than more anti-Obama political attacks. The alternative is that Obama, Clinton, and other chief administration members are dumber than a box of rocks, which is only believable to a few right wing kook aid swillers.

The flip side is that there would be nothing but political gain to the adiminstration sending in reinforcements with guns ablazing, ala killing bin Laden, whether the effort was successful or unsuccessful. Consequently I'm not gonna' jump on the rush to judgement train.

Sg

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