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#800663 - 11/16/12 01:32 PM Re: Here Come The Gun Grabbers! [Re: Todd]
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There are to many 'protect us from ourselves' laws now....
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#800664 - 11/16/12 01:36 PM Re: Here Come The Gun Grabbers! [Re: Timber]
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Good point Timber, [Bleeeeep!] em, let em die.
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#800666 - 11/16/12 01:45 PM Re: Here Come The Gun Grabbers! [Re: ]
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Yes, 19 and younger as a direct result of improperly stored firearms in homes.
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#800667 - 11/16/12 01:48 PM Re: Here Come The Gun Grabbers! [Re: ColeyG]
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Originally Posted By: ColeyG
Good point Timber, [Bleeeeep!] em, let em die.


So whats the solution?

Force people to buy a safe for their guns?

Take safety classes to be able to purchase a gun?


Come on thats not even close to reality......
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#800671 - 11/16/12 01:56 PM Re: Here Come The Gun Grabbers! [Re: ]
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Right, broadly categorized as deaths.
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#800677 - 11/16/12 02:04 PM Re: Here Come The Gun Grabbers! [Re: Timber]
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It's a parents responsibility to teach their children gun safety not the gov.

I have taught my kids how to handle firearms since they were old enough to pick up a toy gun.... They have been taught to handle gun's safely even if it was a toy gun... That includes pointing a gun be it a toy or the real deal at or even close to anyone....
I have a .17 HMR that sits next to the front door for killing critter's with the loaded mags in the coat closet on the shelf... NEVER once has one of my kid's touched it without my or their mothers permission....
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#800701 - 11/16/12 03:11 PM Re: Here Come The Gun Grabbers! [Re: Timber]
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Woman pulls gun on flasher: 'I'm going to blow your brains out'

A Ruger .380.

By Jason White, NBC News

A flasher allegedly got more than he bargained for when he approached a woman at a lake in Washington state this week: a Ruger .380 pointing back at him.

“I put the magazine in my gun. I cocked it,” the woman told The Daily News online. “I said, ‘You need to leave or I’ll shoot you. I’m going to blow your brains out.’”

The gun reportedly had the intended effect.

“Oh, [expletive]!” the man declared, according to the paper, before running away.

The 35-year-old woman was at Lake Sacajawea in Longview, Wash., with her 6-year-old son and a dog Wednesday evening when the man approached, police confirmed to NBC News.

He allegedly sat down and began performing a sex act and said she should watch.

It was at that point that she pulled out her gun.

After the man ran away, she sent her dog, a Norwegian Buhund Hound, after him, police said. The dog cornered him, and when she called the dog back, the man disappeared into the darkness.

The alleged flasher is described as a “white male in his early 20s with short dark-blond hair and wearing a gray hoody and dark blue jeans,” the paper reported.

Detective Kyle Sahim said police are actively investigating the incident, including whether it is connected to another reported flashing in the area.

"Not a common event in Longview," Sahim said.
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#800706 - 11/16/12 03:25 PM Re: Here Come The Gun Grabbers! [Re: Timber]
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Originally Posted By: Timber
It's a parents responsibility to teach their children __________ not the gov.



Just fill that blank in with nearly everything else in the world and we could all agree with it...but a lot of parents suck, a lot of kids don't listen, and there are entire libraries full of laws because people purposely do the wrong thing even when they know it is wrong.

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#800710 - 11/16/12 03:44 PM Re: Here Come The Gun Grabbers! [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
Originally Posted By: Timber
It's a parents responsibility to teach their children __________ not the gov.



Just fill that blank in with nearly everything else in the world and we could all agree with it...but a lot of parents suck, a lot of kids don't listen, and there are entire libraries full of laws because people purposely do the wrong thing even when they know it is wrong.

Fish on...

Todd


Agreed... but stupid people do stupid shiit and we all know you can't fix stupid.....

We have laws and those that do not abide by those laws need to be punished!!

Therein lies the problem..... A big percentage are not punished severely enough!!!
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#800712 - 11/16/12 03:46 PM Re: Here Come The Gun Grabbers! [Re: Todd]
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While I'm glad the woman was able to run off the flasher, she wasn't exactly in physcal danger. I suspect she may have found that "blowing his brains out" (giggity), might not have been the best solution. You can't simple going around blasting people for every crime they are committing.

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#800715 - 11/16/12 03:50 PM Re: Here Come The Gun Grabbers! [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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A 14-year-old Henderson boy calmly described in a 911 call how he shot an intruder in a home invasion last week.

"I just shot the man. He came around the corner. I shot him. He broke the whole glass out (of the back door)," the teen told the 911 dispatcher.

Authorities said Anthony Henderson Jr. 19, broke into the home at 586 S. Lynnbank Road on Thursday while the teen and his 17-year-old sister were home.

The boy told the dispatcher that Henderson pointed a handgun at him, but Vance County Sheriff Peter White said deputies found no weapon on Henderson.

Henderson stumbled outside after being shot and was found dead on the lawn.

Deputies have charged Andrew Terry, 23, of 113 N. Woods Drive, with felony breaking and entering, conspiracy to commit breaking and entering and injury to real property in the case. They also are searching for two other men – Seneca Henderson, 20, of 907 S. Beckford Drive, No. 134, and Jatwaun Davis, 21, of 199 Belle Russell Road.

The boy's sister called 911 to report that someone was banging on the door trying to get in. She said she was hiding in her bedroom closet but told the dispatcher that her brother had a gun.

After the brother got on the phone, the dispatcher ordered him to put down his shotgun.

"I don't know how many it was (who broke in). Just one came around the corner. I got one more in the chamber. I'm going to shoot again," the boy said.

"Do not, while I’m on the phone, do not fire that firearm, OK?" the dispatcher said.

"What if another one comes in the house, ma'am?" he asked.


"Let me know, OK, if you see anybody. I will let you know (when a deputy gets to the house)," the dispatcher responded.

As the boy and his sister waited for deputies to arrive, he told the dispatcher that he was "perfectly fine," but his sister was "really shaken up."

The boy even asks about the condition of the intruder.

"He's still outside. He's unconscious. I'm not sure if he's still living or not," the dispatcher said. "They only found one outside. Are you not sure how many it was?"

"I'm not sure how many it was, but when I shot, I didn't hear anybody running," he said.

No charges are expected against the teen for firing on Henderson. North Carolina's Castle Doctrine law, updated on Dec. 1, allows homeowners to assume intruders mean them ill whether they have a weapon on not.
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#800716 - 11/16/12 03:51 PM Re: Here Come The Gun Grabbers! [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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What about the ongoing case right now of the cop that left his handgun in his car for his 3 year old to shoot someone? Punish him to the max?

http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2019648989_copshooting10m.html

And, if that last post was somehow directed at me because you think I equate flashers with home invaders, then you have a misunderstanding of my views. Anyone breaking into someone else's house should EXPECT to be shot without warning.

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#800717 - 11/16/12 03:53 PM Re: Here Come The Gun Grabbers! [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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Originally Posted By: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D
she wasn't exactly in physcal danger.


And how do you know this?
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#800720 - 11/16/12 03:57 PM Re: Here Come The Gun Grabbers! [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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Originally Posted By: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D
What about the ongoing case right now of the cop that left his handgun in his car for his 3 year old to shoot someone? Punish him to the max?

http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2019648989_copshooting10m.html

And, if that last post was somehow directed at me because you think I equate flashers with home invaders, then you have a misunderstanding of my views. Anyone breaking into someone else's house should EXPECT to be shot without warning.


If he was not a police officer I bet he would have been.....

No... It was not directed at you but more so directed at the fact that if the parents had the gun in the safe to save 'Johnny' from himself what might have happened once the intruder was in?
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#800721 - 11/16/12 03:58 PM Re: Here Come The Gun Grabbers! [Re: Timber]
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I'm no expert but I'd suspect that an attacker wouldn't "sit down" to launch his attack.

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#800724 - 11/16/12 04:04 PM Re: Here Come The Gun Grabbers! [Re: ]
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Fine. That is no skin off my nuts... smile


How 'bout blasting some jaywalkers in the ankle?

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#800726 - 11/16/12 04:11 PM Re: Here Come The Gun Grabbers! [Re: ]
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LOL... so "offensiveness" determines when someone should get shot?

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#800728 - 11/16/12 04:18 PM Re: Here Come The Gun Grabbers! [Re: ]
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The onus is on the woman to articulate her need to defend herself, in this instance by using threat of deadly force. Without knowing the facts of the case and only what is described above, she could very likely face civil and/or criminal charges, especially in the 9th circuit.

"Offensive" is highly subjective and for the most part not a standard used by the courts. "Reasonable" is a standard defined by the courts.
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#800733 - 11/16/12 04:25 PM Re: Here Come The Gun Grabbers! [Re: ColeyG]
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Jaywalkin sumbitches need their ankles blasted... grin
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#800738 - 11/16/12 04:34 PM Re: Here Come The Gun Grabbers! [Re: ]
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How about "most of this has nothing at all to do with the topic at all"?

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