you could've just said..."neener neener neeener, haha haha haahaa... "

I asked my wife what she thought after a week and she is just glad it's over.
Me too.

+ 1,000,000 We really need to shorten this process.

I was surprised. Now I'm disappointed. I'm mostly a moderate in social issues and conservative fiscally.

Which is odd, since the Republican Party has proven that it is neither.

Fish on...

Todd

Does that answer any pertinent questions for you Odd?

Which is odd, since the Republican Party has proven that it is neither.

Fish on...

Todd

Why in the hell would anyone allow themselves to be in that vulnerable of a position to be victimized in the first place?
Perhaps they should have protected their "lively hood" instead of counting on someone else to do that for them.

When entering the game of life...............always wear your jockstrap.
Unless of course you plan on blaming someone else for your ignorance.

Yup. All of those CEO's, Exec's and board members in the good ol boy network who feel entitled to vast riches, mansions and Leer Jets even if they run a company into the ground costing everyone else their lively hood and placing the burden on the tax payer. Good idea.

Or status quo...don't tax them while they move to China and send US workers onto the unemployment or welfare lines.

What you are seeing with the large R turnout is based on these principles:
There is not one person who voted for John McCain last time who will switch and vote for Obama this time.
There are many previous Obama supporters who plan to vote for Romney.
Republicans who stayed home four years ago rather than vote for McCain are not going to stay home again.
Many will vote not because of Romney, but in spite of Romney. They want no more of Obama and his policies.
Thats why I voted the way I did in Rouges thread.

America- The land of opportunity.

Whatever you want is out there. All you need to do is go and get it.
Unfortunatly 2many choose to not.

79 percent of white evangelicals voted for Romney on Tuesday. That's the same percentage that Bush received in 2004, and more than Senator John McCain received in 2008. The evangelical vote was 27 percent of the overall electorate -- the highest it's ever been for an election.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arch...olitics/265139/

Interesting read by George Will HERE

Since 1948, male labor force participation has plummeted from 89 percent to 73 percent. Today, 27 percent of adult men do not consider themselves part of the workforce: "A large part of the jobs problem for American men today is not wanting one."

One reason work now is neither a duty nor a necessity is the gaming — defrauding, really — of disability entitlements. In 1960, an average of 455,000 workers were receiving disability payments; in 2011, 8.6 million were — more than four times the number of people receiving basic welfare benefits under Temporary Assistance for Needy Families. Nearly half of the 8.6 million were "disabled" because of "mood disorders" or ailments of the "musculoskeletal system and the connective tissue." It is, says Eberstadt, essentially impossible to disprove a person's claim to be suffering from sad feelings or back pain.

More Republicans would have gotten out to vote during the last 4 years but most of them were too afraid of being rear ended by some dope smokin Democrat.
It's a shame when the issues are so far gone that some choose to stay at home.

If a person is of the same opinion as you, staying home would be the best for all concerned.
Thanks for showing why many feel there should be a competency test attached to voting privileges.
That way you and the rest of the stupid patrol wouldn't be allowed to vote.

Be careful what you wish for as you might not make the cut.

Got any Good Conduct Medal stories ya want to tell us about?

I got one of those and just between you and me and the lampost, it was Great Conduct.

Illahee,
I forgot to say thanks for serving.

That is an interesting article, Pat.

We should treat fraud as the outrage that it is and start executing people who rip off the system by claiming an ailment they don't have, by fraudulently billing Medicare/Medicaid, or whatever other f'n scam these bastards are pulling.

These systems are necessary, and should be used to help those that need help, not some scamming SOB just looking to be lazy. I find this type of behavior so low and outrageous to be akin to treason, and the perpetrators should be hung or shot.

I'm a liberal, or so I've been told, and I get up every day and go to work, and while I'm there, no mofo works harder than I do. My company gets every cent worth out of me. Ask them - they'll tell you. I don't look for ways to dodge taxes like a weasel or cheat on my taxes, I pay my bills on time, and I keep to myself most of the time. So this whole notion that conservatives are somehow superior when it comes to work and productivity, while liberals just look for handouts is laughable. Watch me at work and you'll see what I mean. (I'm not speaking to anyone in particular here). I see those who call themselves conservatives coasting all the time, and I see those who call themselves liberals busting ass - it's just a matter of work ethic that determines which camp you fall into, not what party you vote for.

There are producers and there are drags on society, and neither political party has a monopoly on either group. If someone is a producer, they're OK by me, no matter what their political affiliation. If they're a drag on society (intentionally), they should get a dirt nap. If those in need require help, we should give it to them. But the end game should be to get them NOT needing help any longer, not making a dependant out of them. Our government has not been very successful at managing this task.

In case you were wondering - I'm not at work right now, so don't bust my hump for coasting on company time. I'm heading to Austin, TX tomorrow to catch the Formula One race at the brand new Circuit of the Americas race track.



Interesting debate going on here - I'll check up on it when I get back from Texas next week.

We should treat fraud as the outrage that it is and start executing people who rip off the system by claiming an ailment they don't have, by fraudulently billing Medicare/Medicaid, or whatever other f'n scam these bastards are pulling.......These systems are necessary, and should be used to help those that need help, not some scamming SOB just looking to be lazy. I find this type of behavior so low and outrageous to be akin to treason, and the perpetrators should be hung or shot......There are producers and there are drags on society, and neither political party has a monopoly on either group. If someone is a producer, they're OK by me, no matter what their political affiliation. If they're a drag on society (intentionally), they should get a dirt nap. If those in need require help, we should give it to them. But the end game should be to get them NOT needing help any longer, not making a dependant out of them. Our government has not been very successful at managing this task.....

Butthurtitis. Call McCain, he's suffered it for 4 years now & no sign of it subsiding.

I was about to write the same thing so thanks for saving me the trouble. Disability fraud, welfare fraud, Medicare/Medicaid abuses etc really friggin piss me off. Makes me want to put on my heavy wading boots and kick them all the in balls (SFR)...and then let Dan S finish them off as he prescribed. Gawdammit. Now I'm all pissed.

So 12 years ago we had a budgetary surplus, please show were entitlements depleted that surplus.
So if you came home and found your dog had destroyed your new couch, would you kill your cat for watching it happen?

I don't think social security should ever be part of deficit reduction debates. Social Security is funded by our payroll takes (FICA) NOT by income tax so as long as those bastages in congress don't do anything unethical (lol) and what should be illegal, like borrowing from SS, then SS has no impact on the deficits.

The first step in reforming SS will be raising the age to 67. That will save $150M per year. Then the payroll tax will increase. Then means testing. After all of that, I'm not sure of what else they can do. Most people are not in favor of a 401K style SS option.

The first step in reforming SS will be raising the age to 67. That will save $150M per year. Then the payroll tax will increase. Then means testing.

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Angus for POTUS!

Dan, for a funny phukk who makes me all the time, you speak some wicked, stark truth here. Nicely done.