#808582 - 12/19/12 08:20 PM
Re: Turning Point?
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If there were a billion guns the problem would still be the same as it is today if there were no guns we would still have the same problem. People kill people as a supposed resolution to a myriad of issues , always have always will. The largest mass killing of kids in the US involved dynamite. It happened before TV, video games and the NRA and almost every house hold had guns in 1927
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#808584 - 12/19/12 08:36 PM
Re: Turning Point?
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Chuckles the methodology behind that stat is highly disputed and came from a series of very biased studies in the war on smoking. I don't believe it but will agree with you that it is a bigger preventable death number than kids killed in school shootings.
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#808588 - 12/19/12 09:14 PM
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a couple pages back i said i thought that they were huddled in a corner or such, and he came in and started firing into the crowd, and that likely, we would never hear the true account... i was wrong.., about the hearing about it part... they were in a closet... i knew in the back of my mind i never wanted to find out, now i know why... messed up... http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/...msnhp&pos=1
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#808594 - 12/19/12 09:57 PM
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Cops hate when people are running everywhere, so we are told to stay put. And we buy it.
Gdammit people, think! Your job is NOT to make a cop's job easy! It's nice when it works that way, but it is NOT NECESSARY!
If you're going to fight.....hold nothing back!
If you're not going to fight..................RUN!
But for chrissakes, don't just stand, sit, or lay still!
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#808597 - 12/19/12 10:12 PM
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If banning assault rifles with high capacity magazines saves the life of one child, then it's worth it.
If you want to play with assault rifles, then join the fuking military. As long as I'm ranting.......you, Illahee, need to live in the real world and stay the hell out of lala land. EVERYTHING can kill a child.....banning you would be a good start.
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#808598 - 12/19/12 10:15 PM
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If banning assault rifles with high capacity magazines saves the life of one child, then it's worth it.
If you want to play with assault rifles, then join the fuking military. As long as I'm ranting.......you, Illahee, need to live in the real world and stay the hell out of lala land. EVERYTHING can kill a child.....banning you would be a good start. Retied military, up yours meat slapper.
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#808599 - 12/19/12 10:19 PM
Re: Turning Point?
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redhook
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Illahee, thanks for your service, but dont be a douche bag....
question:
crazy person has a gun to your head, what are you more afraid of? Charles Daly single shot 12 guage or a AR-15 with a Trijicon and a 100 round dual/drum?
heres a hint to the answer, you only get to die once...
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#808600 - 12/19/12 10:28 PM
Re: Turning Point?
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If banning assault rifles with high capacity magazines saves the life of one child, then it's worth it.
If you want to play with assault rifles, then join the fuking military. As long as I'm ranting.......you, Illahee, need to live in the real world and stay the hell out of lala land. EVERYTHING can kill a child.....banning you would be a good start. Retied military, up yours meat slapper. Being ex-military carries weight with me. Especially retired military. So your statement concerning "If it saves the life of one child...." seems extraordinarily left of center for a military retiree. What "fuking" branch did you enjoy for so long? and how come?
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#808602 - 12/19/12 10:29 PM
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Illahee, thanks for your service, but dont be a douche bag....
question:
crazy person has a gun to your head, what are you more afraid of? Charles Daly single shot 12 guage or a AR-15 with a Trijicon and a 100 round dual/drum?
heres a hint to the answer, you only get to die once... So your asking me what I'd do if you had a gun to my head? Seriously I'm afraid of people like you, that's why I'm well armed.
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#808604 - 12/19/12 10:43 PM
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Nice save, Chuck.  I was sure I was going to see Chuck Norris
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#808621 - 12/19/12 11:53 PM
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Give Illahee a break, maybe he was a Chaplain and now has post traumatic service disorder. No sky pilot,. but I did three Southeast Asia tours as a aircraft mech. 1969-1972 and retired from the ANG. And now I'm collecting service related disablity payments, getting a skin cancer screening, so there might be another claim filed.
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#808624 - 12/20/12 12:36 AM
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River Nutrients
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Are you filing that skin cancer claim as service-related or for all the time you've spent on the water?
Just curious. Spent my entire career of 30yrs working outside in a no hat area, sun screen was not issued. Much of that time was in SE Asia, Panama, desert SW and Florida. What are the odds it's service related?
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#808626 - 12/20/12 12:47 AM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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Hank's just being a twat.
He does that.
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#808650 - 12/20/12 08:33 AM
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.... Discussing the background and what lead to an event is fundamental in trying to figure out what happened and, hopefully, using that information to prevent something similar in the future.
I'm not saying that people in a position to figure out what happened and, hopefully able to use that information to prevent something similar in the future should be limited in their access to info, I'm saying that channel 5, 7, 11 and 13 don't need to tap up a vein and shoot every detail into our over analyzing brains, immortalizing them to every Tom, Dick and Harry that reads a newspaper, has a tv, radio or internet connection. Knowing that the only way they will leave a mark in history seems to be their motive, taking that away from them seems like a valid tool. Having personal experience with a rampage shooting (remember Ricky Thorp?) nearly 30 years ago, I've actually dodged a bullet in one of these situations and seeing them go from bad to worse and the only names being remembered are the shooters makes it clear that eliminating that motive would be a more effective course than internet discussion.
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#808671 - 12/20/12 11:49 AM
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I have a daughter in kindergarten. I feel the same way
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#808953 - 12/21/12 01:38 AM
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redhook
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that closet an outward opening door?
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