I'm sure the folks that matter would be really impressed with this conversation.

No, really.

Did I miss where you offered a solution? This thread is a game of Whack A RWWJ. Down you go. Next.

First you should take a poll. I bet it will show the majority of parents will refuse to send their kids to schools that have armed civilians.

Second I trust me with a gun much more than I trust you with a gun. You OK with only me having a gun to protect your kids? I promise there will be no accidents and I'll try to protect you too. I just don't want to have to worry about you having a gun when it hits the fan.

We've all been behind that guy yacking on his cell phone driving all over the road. If you were to ask him he'd swear he's the safest driver out there.

Just because you train someone and give them a gun does not necessarily enable them to prevent a situation such as what happened. It goes back to the flight and fight scenario. Then once the decision is made, is the person proficient enough to disable the threat? Has the person been thru the proper stress inoculation of simulated return fire? Its one thing to shoot a paper target and another to shoot at something looking and aimed in on you.

Probably be a lot cheaper to just have a metal detector and control access in and out of schools than to risk more damage from some one trying to curve a bullet around two third graders.

HERE you may find your poll fails.

Yeah, cuz a rural Texas burg of 1100 people is always indicative of what the country in general would support or not.

Fish on...

Todd

And down goes another RWWJ. Next.

A simple search produces many results concerning safety of armed public vs gun-free zones.....here's one
Link below:

Newsmax: Dr. Lott, your work suggests people are more secure, rather than less so, when firearms are readily available in society.

Dr. Lott: Simply telling them to behave passively turns out to be pretty bad advice . . . By far the safest course of action for people to take, when they are confronting a criminal, is to have a gun. This is particularly true for the people in our society who are the most vulnerable.

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Lott-guns-Connecticut-shooting/2012/12/15/id/467903#ixzz2FnUvxTZb

Thats all fine and dandy but how many people go out and actually train with their weapon? By train I mean engaging silhouettes, not random trees, cans, or squirrels.

Not sure if any of you have read the book "On Killing" but it has a section that goes over the advantage that shooting a silhouetter presents over the usual objects. In the early World War, shot accuracy was an issue. This inaccuracy was attributed to Soldiers shooting on bulleye targets similar to archers. When faced with a live human aiming a weapon at them, their reaction was to shoot high. Now if you look at ranges both civilian and military, most have a silhouette that resembles the upper portion of a person. This type of silhouette when combined with training and practice results in muscle memory that allows the shooter to engage center mass, as that is what they are accustomed to.

I guess an example can be in Gang wars. Not many people are dropped with two to the chest. Its a pray and spray mentality because many are not trained. They just have the weapons and attempt to destroy their enemy. I believe the same will occur if majority of the untrained civilian population takes up arms in an effort to be less complacent. Stray shots are never a good thing....

I agree something needs to be done, but our Children deserve a well planned out initiative not a knee jerk reaction to a travesty.

"a Fox News opinion contributor"
"American Enterprise Institute"
"His most recent book, co-authored with Grover Norquist"
"Lott is best known for his role in the gun rights debate, particularly his arguments against restrictions on owning and carrying guns, the ensuing controversy surrounding the data and methodology used in his research, and his use of a sockpuppet identity to support his position on various websites in 2002 and 2003."

Not surprising he's your go to guy.

Not these guys. These guys will drop and roll while shooting ten bullseyes out of a 6 round clip.

Unless the assailant just got off of work at Target, they won't usually have a bullseye to aim for

No. I conclude correctly that his presence did not prevent the perps from mass murder. Your argument seems to be "well it could have". It didn't. End of story. Grasp some other straw.

It's widely known that all bad guys have a different colored aura and dress all in black which makes them easy to pick out of a crowd.

All you have pointed out to me is that you are afraid of guns......and therein lies the problem. Your fears run your life. You're pathetic.

And there it is. If I disagree with you nut jobs then I'm anti gun. I haven't counted lately but I think I have about 18 guns. Rifle, shotgun and the rest are pistols. My favorite being my Sig P238 .380. And I have a CCP but rarely feel the need to carry. Don't tell her but my wife has four boxes of 100 grain .327 mag ammo under the tree. Gotta start reloading that caliber because it's F'ing expensive and hard to find at times. I'm on pins and needles waiting to see what other stupidity you can spew.

You're so anti-gun that you buy guns and ammo so others can't. I see where you are going.

My argument is nothing can be done to prevent whack jobs from getting weapons and going on killing sprees while we all want freedom (owning firearms and letting the mentally ill walk the streets). Even rational human beings have a temper or a breaking point. You bring up an example that actually refutes your own argument. Armed 15 year officer and STILL it happened. Arming everybody is just plain idiotic. And arming teachers? We don't even do a good job of preventing pedophiles from becoming teachers.

I like how the pussies who are so scared that they can't go out to their mailbox without packing heat think reasonable people who aren't such pussies that they need to carry a 30 mag clip AR with them wherever they go are the pussies.

That takes the kind of mental gynmastics that I didn't think a dimwit like Slappy could perform without pulling a muscle.

Fish on...

Todd

Yeah. Time to get off the net. Don't usually logon on Saturdays but not allowed to fish today. Maybe I'll go buy some more guns and ammo. With all of the wingnuts driving up the price it's better than buying stock.