#809354 - 12/22/12 12:19 PM
Re: Surprise, surprise (The NRA's suggestion)
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Where did I say you were anti-gun? Where? I don't give a damn how many guns you own......all that takes is money. And you can kill targets all day long. So what? Who has a use for 18 guns? To me they are tools.....not "Hey, looky what I got!" pieces. You are still afraid of guns and distrustful. Nice world you live in. Ever consider moving? It's what's in your guts that matters. Running from trouble says all I need to hear.
I'll call you FeatherButt from here on.
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#809357 - 12/22/12 12:24 PM
Re: Surprise, surprise (The NRA's suggestion)
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Armed guards seems to work pretty well for the politicians pampered a$$es. Anyone been to D.C. since 911 and not seen armed guards hanging around there little meeting hall. I agree that putting a cop at every school will look and feel more like a police state but it is effective. I kinda agree with Gutz get rid of "gun free zones" and let the teachers shoot back. It will reduce police pressesnce and even the fight (at this point its a fight). I think training them and setting up an arms room/locker for them would come at a cost but there is no way that any reaction from these tragedies is free. I'd think training and arming would be cheaper than hiring new and arming. The arm guards you refer to, majority of them are former Special Operations, Swat, or some other specialty. I highly doubt a person with those skill sets will work a School. Thats where I think majority of the issues will be. PLU has an armed police officer. At least when I was there, but all she did was hang out in her car or in campus safety. One of the biggest aids to having an armed presence is a show of force. Even if you aren't shooting people, show your face, make rounds, make the impression that you are out and about to act more as a deterence than anything else. I always thought that Officers assigned to schools were banished for pissing off the wrong person. Could be wrong, but the fact of the matter is you need Vigilant well trained people that won't get complacent. Good luck finding that..
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#809359 - 12/22/12 12:28 PM
Re: Surprise, surprise (The NRA's suggestion)
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It doesn't refute the argument his presence prevented a higher death toll. Now to get back to one of my questions, do you think an armed security presence at schools is a good or bad choice? It's too expensive and, as you've shown, not effective. Besides, if we are going to be a police state then you might as well open up other freedoms you are willing to give up. Give us your solution. One that's proven to work.
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#809363 - 12/22/12 12:33 PM
Re: Surprise, surprise (The NRA's suggestion)
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Where did I say you were anti-gun? Where? I don't give a damn how many guns you own......all that takes is money. And you can kill targets all day long. So what? Who has a use for 18 guns? To me they are tools.....not "Hey, looky what I got!" pieces. You are still afraid of guns and distrustful. Nice world you live in. Ever consider moving? It's what's in your guts that matters. Running from trouble says all I need to hear.
I'll call you FeatherButt from here on. Funny stuff. Some are collectors but shoot fine. What I don't want is you armed. I don't consider you a rational person. But since it's legal then others need to be armed to protect themselves from you. You see the circle?
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#809365 - 12/22/12 12:35 PM
Re: Surprise, surprise (The NRA's suggestion)
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Dick Nipples
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The NRA only wants a police state when it means that the gun and ammo industry can be the one to make billions selling guns to millions of non-governmental folks.
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#809370 - 12/22/12 12:49 PM
Re: Surprise, surprise (The NRA's suggestion)
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Easy, FeatherButt ...... your fear is showing.
You don't even recognize where your real fears should be directed. That must be awful.
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#809372 - 12/22/12 12:58 PM
Re: Surprise, surprise (The NRA's suggestion)
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What I don't want is you armed. I don't consider you a rational person. But since it's legal then others need to be armed to protect themselves from you. You see the circle?
So now you finaly agree with a RWWJ. I dont want you, an armed killer in my class. And I have the right to protect myself from you. But you dont want me too protect myself from you. Thats not making sense. Its clear that prior gun legislation and gun free zones put in place by LWDB's are not effective. I agree with slab that bird brain is distrustful and thats the key. But if the voters in WA showed anything to birdbrain is that we are not scared of him having a joint at his gay wedding. I'm not scared of potheads and gays so dont be scared of responsible straight shooting easily trainable citizens.
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#809374 - 12/22/12 01:12 PM
Re: Surprise, surprise (The NRA's suggestion)
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What I don't want is you armed. I don't consider you a rational person. But since it's legal then others need to be armed to protect themselves from you. You see the circle?
Also did you realize that you basicaly restated the foundation for the second amendment. Armed protection from those who have the power to take your life and liberty. hmmmmmmmm
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#809376 - 12/22/12 01:23 PM
Re: Surprise, surprise (The NRA's suggestion)
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What I don't want is you armed. I don't consider you a rational person. But since it's legal then others need to be armed to protect themselves from you. You see the circle?
So now you finaly agree with a RWWJ. I dont want you, an armed killer in my class. And I have the right to protect myself from you. But you dont want me too protect myself from you. Thats not making sense. Its clear that prior gun legislation and gun free zones put in place by LWDB's are not effective. I agree with slab that bird brain is distrustful and thats the key. But if the voters in WA showed anything to birdbrain is that we are not scared of him having a joint at his gay wedding. I'm not scared of potheads and gays so dont be scared of responsible straight shooting easily trainable citizens. Mass murder happened before "gun free zones". That's why they were put in place. Do you see the circle now?
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#809382 - 12/22/12 01:40 PM
Re: Surprise, surprise (The NRA's suggestion)
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Obviously. So your answer is back to the past. Full circle.
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#809384 - 12/22/12 01:42 PM
Re: Surprise, surprise (The NRA's suggestion)
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The FeatherButt crowd's solution is to expand the "free-to-gun-us-down" zone. More fun for all that way.
Edited by Slab Happy (12/22/12 01:42 PM)
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#809386 - 12/22/12 01:45 PM
Re: Surprise, surprise (The NRA's suggestion)
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Nope. Just don't want idiots like you guys carrying guns around children. And I bet I'm in the majority.
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#809387 - 12/22/12 01:47 PM
Re: Surprise, surprise (The NRA's suggestion)
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If a person is going to commit mass murder, I highly doubt a sign will stop them or change their mind. Full circle (just wanted tos ay it, was feeling left out)
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#809388 - 12/22/12 01:50 PM
Re: Surprise, surprise (The NRA's suggestion)
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Mass murder happened before "gun free zones". That's why they were put in place. Do you see the circle now?
So what? Mass murder happened before there were guns. Circles are indeed round!
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#809393 - 12/22/12 02:05 PM
Re: Surprise, surprise (The NRA's suggestion)
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I'll bet you see a lot more "bad guys" in the world than I do......something wrong about that, don't you think?
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#809397 - 12/22/12 02:11 PM
Re: Surprise, surprise (The NRA's suggestion)
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River Nutrients
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If a person is going to commit mass murder, I highly doubt a sign will stop them or change their mind. Full circle (just wanted tos ay it, was feeling left out) Yeah especially a guns allowed sign. Small IQ's: "why hell we tried dat der no gun zone thing and there's still dem dar whackos runnen round so let's go back to trying what didn't work before dem dar anti freedom zones. Hell if we'd just arm evy body even 6 year olds dar wodn't be any sitiations no mor. Ya'll don like dat den how bout just me armed? I'm an xpert in dese sitiations. Trust me round ya kids y'all."
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#809400 - 12/22/12 02:26 PM
Re: Surprise, surprise (The NRA's suggestion)
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Small IQ's: There's just been a mass murder at a school so if we ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines those will stop. Especially now that we already have those "gun free" zones. Normal IQ: Nothing is going to prevent whackos in the society we have created for ourselves.
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#809405 - 12/22/12 02:45 PM
Re: Surprise, surprise (The NRA's suggestion)
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Dick Nipples
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Dumbasses: When people are killing each other with guns, the answer to fix it is to make sure we have more guns.
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#809414 - 12/22/12 03:12 PM
Re: Surprise, surprise (The NRA's suggestion)
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Wrong, as usual.
Less guns would mean guns would have to be grabbed, which, of course...none have, and none will be.
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#809417 - 12/22/12 03:19 PM
Re: Surprise, surprise (The NRA's suggestion)
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River Nutrients
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What's really ironic is these same numb nuts are all for employers to be able to do anything they want because it's "their business" unless they say "no guns".
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