#811106 - 12/30/12 01:36 AM
Re: WTF? No assault weapon used at Sandy Hook shooting
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Ranger Danger
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The whole country deserves to know the truth.......PERIOD And you expect the media to report that? The news isn't about truth these days, it is about being first, and dramatic, and maintaining viewership. The truth is an afterthought. If that is what you seek, you will need to look elsewhere.
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#811108 - 12/30/12 01:43 AM
Re: WTF? No assault weapon used at Sandy Hook shooting
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Coley, considering the power of the media, doesn't that scare you?
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#811118 - 12/30/12 02:18 AM
Re: WTF? No assault weapon used at Sandy Hook shooting
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Big Daddy has it right. I watched and absorbed the entire first 48 - 72 hours (every news outlet for an unbiased view) of Newtown and it WAS widely reported that ONLY handguns were used inside the school and the 15 was in the vehicle. They even had a picture of it leaning up against said vehicle after they found it. Then some 2-3 days afterwards (and after the Dem Libtards immediately politicized the moment)....poof! The 15 was in the school and did all of the damage (instead of the handguns)? What, did the little prick run back outside and put it in the trunk and then run back in?
WTF? I mean really? Seriously?
The coroner / forensices teams get an immediate lifetime hero pass because of what they saw and did while doing their job. However maybe I'm dense here and missing something important, but hollow points (used as reported) from either the 15 or a handgun do what all hollow points do - and that's explode. So unless they piece mealed rounds back together to match its corresponding weapon....how would they know which rounds came from which gun?
Fully jacketed rounds would just go right through and Forensics could more easily determine a .223 from a 9mm right?
Can someone please explain any part of the above to me? Each part of the competing media tries to get the scoop,beat each other to be the first to come out with the story and in the process screws up big time . As days go by the story gets straightened out. It's not that complicated. The video that keeps getting posted here looks to be dated 12-15. More accurate information has come out since then.
Edited by Keta (12/30/12 02:21 AM)
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#811121 - 12/30/12 02:38 AM
Re: WTF? No assault weapon used at Sandy Hook shooting
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Ranger Danger
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Coley, considering the power of the media, doesn't that scare you? No. It makes me sad. If we had something to lose, I would be scared. Sadly, I think we have already lost it.
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#811138 - 12/30/12 11:39 AM
Re: WTF? No assault weapon used at Sandy Hook shooting
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Do I have this right? You know the media is not reporting the truth and you want the real truth? How do you know the media is not reporting the truth? A multitude of studies have shown how two people seeing the same event report details from two seemingly different events. The phenomena is called belief dependent reality. People view events filtered through their belief system . They form a belief and then use the facts that only support that belief. Sounds like some of you pro black guns or pro guns only want information that favors your view ? Is it really important which weapons were used?
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#811143 - 12/30/12 12:10 PM
Re: WTF? No assault weapon used at Sandy Hook shooting
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The media has no more interest in "the truth" than its customers do...most the dudes in this thread don't want "the truth" ... they want "the truth that fits their opinion"...and the news media, being in the entertainment and ad selling business first, gives its customers what they want.
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#811146 - 12/30/12 12:25 PM
Re: WTF? No assault weapon used at Sandy Hook shooting
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I can't speak for everyone else, but I can tell you straight up that I want the truth. And yes, Tom, I think I have that right. (I suspect, however, that "legally" that may not be true?)
Is there a way to fix it........or do you think that it is important?
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#811148 - 12/30/12 01:29 PM
Re: WTF? No assault weapon used at Sandy Hook shooting
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The truth as I pointed out is subjective to the person forming it. The facts will come out at some point in time , typically 6 months to a year from the event. Why do people allow the debate to be framed by someone with an agenda? Tools nor methods are the issue here , don't let the freedom takers frame the debate by getting you defending bunny trails.
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#811150 - 12/30/12 01:43 PM
Re: WTF? No assault weapon used at Sandy Hook shooting
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True that. The subject matter in itself is emotion-charged and plays right into agenda-based deceit......(see sig line).
There are few things that disgust me more than agenda-based liars.....especially so if the liars are charged with public trust.
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#811163 - 12/30/12 03:29 PM
Re: WTF? No assault weapon used at Sandy Hook shooting
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#811236 - 12/30/12 08:48 PM
Re: WTF? No assault weapon used at Sandy Hook shooting
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I'm fine with giving up more gun rights. Safety first, right? Tap my phone if it makes everyone safer. Whatever. That said, I'm still trying imagine someone with this kid's issues, armed like seal team six, wiping out a classroom with the courage to save a bullet for himself. He seems to be a bit of an overachiever with his skillset. Wonder what kind of medication he was on,if any.
I finished last in my class, so I'm still just trying to learn from the smart kids....peace
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#811239 - 12/30/12 08:56 PM
Re: WTF? No assault weapon used at Sandy Hook shooting
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I'm fine with giving up more gun rights. Safety first, right?
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#811246 - 12/30/12 09:23 PM
Re: WTF? No assault weapon used at Sandy Hook shooting
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Spawner
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Guess that answers that. Thank you
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#811470 - 12/31/12 08:43 PM
Re: WTF? No assault weapon used at Sandy Hook shooting
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River Nutrients
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Yeah Hank, how one says things matters, I've learned. How you said it had me thinking you believed he couldn't have used hand guns, which is different than believing he didn't use hand guns because the reports or other evidence indicated he didn't.
Even though you're a RWWJ, you're an otherwise intelligent and articulate person, so I was trying to figure out why you believed "he couldn't have used hand guns." Thanks for taking the time to clarify.
Actually at this point I'm uncertain what he did use. Without a time stamp on each report, it's hard to update and know which statement supercedes the last. At this point Lanza apparently had four handguns in total, but only two have been identified, the Sig and the Glock, and the Bushmaster and a shotgun. But if there were 4 handguns, why were only 2 identified? Or were there really only 2, but some erroneous reports said there were 4? Not that every detail matters, but getting the weapon inventory straight is imperative if Congress and Legislatures are intent on enacting new gun legislation.
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