Maybe the Gubmint should re-brand the DoD as the "Department of Assault", and start calling "defense spending" what it is..."assault spending"...or, more accurately, "let's waste all our money to make a handful of defense contractors who donate to our campaigns fuckin rich...Department."

I'm still not real clear on what an "assault weapon" is...it's almost like "if it looks like one, then it is"...

Fish on...

Todd

The "assault rifle" was originally reported as found in the BACKSEAT of the vehicle was identified as a BushMaster immediately.

Interesting that it was called out by name.

The weapon in the trunk appears to be a Saiga shotgun....not much doubt.

Anyway how do the first responders identify a Glock and a Sig Sauer, by name, as the weapons used inside the school?

These same first responders to the actual location inside the school, including police and firefighters, should be able to tell the difference handguns and a Bushmaster "assault rifle"

Teen shot and killed in Far Rockaway, Queens by two masked men armed with AK-47, pistol


A Queens mom who hoped to see her teen son become a marine biologist instead saw him Saturday in the morgue.

Xavier Granville, 17, was gunned down by a pair of ski-masked gunmen — one toting an AK-47 assault rifle — after a late-night party in Far Rockaway, police sources said.

“My son didn’t deserve to go out like this,” said a distraught Shakira Granville after identifying the body of her only child. “The pain I feel. I’m just in shock.”

Xavier was a cheerful teen who loved video games and the ocean — with plans to become a marine biologist, according to his mom.

One witness said he thought the fatal shooting of the high school junior was a case of mistaken identity. “I don’t think those bullets were intended for him,” said the witness, who declined to give his name. “Everyone loved Xavier.”

The two gunmen opened fire around 12:30 a.m. as Granville was headed for home, according to the witness. The second shooter was armed with a .45-caliber pistol, and the two masked men began spraying gunfire on Beach 15th St. near Heyson Road.

While the motive for the slaying remained a mystery, a police source indicated that Granville had possible gang ties. He died from a bullet to the head.

jkemp@nydailynews.com

If only Granville had his own AK and could have fired back, this regrettable incident could have been avoided...because, as we all know, the answer is always "more guns".

Fish on...

Todd

That story has to be false due to the fact that AK 47's are illegal in New York.

Bloomberg said so......

fishy......the connection is?

The phrase "I know it when I see it" is a colloquial expression by which a speaker attempts to categorize an observable fact or event, although the category is subjective or lacks clearly defined parameters. The phrase was famously used by United States Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart to describe his threshold test for obscenity in Jacobellis v. Ohio (1964). Obscenity is not protected speech under the Miller test, and can therefore be censored.

I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description ["hard-core pornography"]; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that. [Emphasis added.]
—Justice Potter Stewart, concurring opinion in Jacobellis v. Ohio 378 U.S. 184 (1964), regarding possible obscenity in The Lovers.

The expression became one of the most famous phrases in the entire history of the Supreme Court.[1]

Stewart's "I know it when I see it" standard was praised as an example of candor[2] and "realistic and gallant."[3]

A well-known quotation of this phrase is found in Goldfinger, when M asks Bond: "What do you know about gold?" and Bond replies with "I know it when I see it."[4]

C&P from Wickopedia

Big Daddy has it right. I watched and absorbed the entire first 48 - 72 hours (every news outlet for an unbiased view) of Newtown and it WAS widely reported that ONLY handguns were used inside the school and the 15 was in the vehicle. They even had a picture of it leaning up against said vehicle after they found it. Then some 2-3 days afterwards (and after the Dem Libtards immediately politicized the moment)....poof! The 15 was in the school and did all of the damage (instead of the handguns)? What, did the little prick run back outside and put it in the trunk and then run back in?

WTF? I mean really? Seriously?

The coroner / forensices teams get an immediate lifetime hero pass because of what they saw and did while doing their job. However maybe I'm dense here and missing something important, but hollow points (used as reported) from either the 15 or a handgun do what all hollow points do - and that's explode. So unless they piece mealed rounds back together to match its corresponding weapon....how would they know which rounds came from which gun?

Fully jacketed rounds would just go right through and Forensics could more easily determine a .223 from a 9mm right?

Can someone please explain any part of the above to me?

As a dude known for saying stupid schit repeatedly, Hank, I think you've really outdone yourself on this one.

Fish on...

Todd

When guns are deemed illeagle only criminals will possess them.

Hank the reports by the Huffington Post and other news outlets 36 hours after the shooting are not the issue or in dispute.

The issue is the vastly different initial reports from the scene and the subsequent follow-up reports.

Hank .........re-watch the video I posted and pay close attention when they report that several Federal and State Officials state that "only handguns" were used in the killings. Pay CLOSE attention to the segment....14 seconds to 50 seconds.

Don't argue with me.........argue with NBC and their sources.

There is none, like everything else he posts.

Are you guys really arguing around the concept that "news" is inaccurate?

If you aren't painfully aware of that by now...

Do you think Todd knows what he thinks?

Let's find out.........

Yo! Todd, do you know what you think? Do you have a solution? Let's hear it!

(Extra points if you can answer without too many broad-brush statements and name calling.)

Not arguing ColeyG, simply wondering out loud how such "inaccuracies" can be present when the physical gun evidence was there to see, touch and analyze.

Pretty hard to mix up the ID of such weapons.

The evidence must have "morphed" itself after about 48 hours.

Todd doesn't know if his a$$ is punched or bored.

That Mean Bastard is all over it.

How damn hard can it be to make a clear statement about what weapons were found where?

Is it too much to expect.....no, DEMAND an accurate statement and retraction(s) of all statements that are now known to be inaccurate?

The whole country deserves to know the truth.......PERIOD

I don't know if its arguing about the accuracy of the media (which would be pointless to Todd's point). Rather I think its about the HUGE frickin' difference between the 15 being used or not (and being used as a "late" trump card for the grabbers). I could give two chits about the media. I want to know which weapons were actually used. There is no national discussion on "assult rifles" if the 15 was left in the trunk. See the point now?

We better not have been lied to in regards to an AR-15 being used. The AR makes more sense, but who knows?