#814959 - 01/13/13 11:25 PM
Plastic Worms setup question
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 01/05/08
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Loc: Puyallup, WA
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I have been trying out different worms and setups. I typically start out with fishing bait of some type.
When it runs out I go with yarn balls or worms.
Now the worm questions.
1. Some times I use a corky at the top of the worm with different colors. 2. Do you pin the corky with a tooth pic? 3. Do you use a corky or a cheater? Why?
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#814961 - 01/13/13 11:34 PM
Re: Plastic Worms setup question
[Re: TheHunt]
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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Yes, pin it.
It doesn't matter much if it's a corkie, a cheater, a winner, or a dibbler, but it does three things...it floats the worm up a bit, it gives the worm a bit of action, and it protects the worm from getting torn up so easily.
Fish on...
Todd
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#814979 - 01/13/13 11:56 PM
Re: Plastic Worms setup question
[Re: Todd]
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ExtenZe Field Tester
Registered: 11/10/09
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I like to peg a small Corky above the worm to protect the worm from getting pushed down. When that happens, the worm starts to spin and I don't want that going on. The best toothpicks for pegging are the long tapers. They usually have a square center and a nice long (round) taper. Always peg the worm side of the Corky (or whatever) and leave a little space between the Corky and worm. 
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#814986 - 01/14/13 12:10 AM
Re: Plastic Worms setup question
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ExtenZe Field Tester
Registered: 11/10/09
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Yes, pin it, but not with a toothpick. Put a loop of heavy mono through the cheater (more buoyant than corkies IMO) and pull through a section of UV yarn, sparkly chenille, or what have you. It's got even more action than the worm and is kind of a combo bait. You can even pin it 12" above the worm and then put a small bead by the head of the worm to protect it. I like to pinch the heads off of the pink worms and melt on the head of a black worm or white worm for contrast. The sky's the limit... I've seen guys pull a short piece of rubber band into a Corky as well. All nice but much faster for me to peg with a toothpick.
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#814988 - 01/14/13 12:20 AM
Re: Plastic Worms setup question
[Re: Direct-Drive]
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redhook
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super thick bobber stops work well too....
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#815029 - 01/14/13 09:37 AM
Re: Plastic Worms setup question
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 01/05/08
Posts: 124
Loc: Puyallup, WA
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Let me pulse you with why you would choose a corky verses a cheater for this worm setup?
It seems that individuals say a cheater has more buoyancy then a corky.
Is there a big difference?
Edited by TheHunt (01/14/13 09:37 AM)
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#815032 - 01/14/13 10:08 AM
Re: Plastic Worms setup question
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River Nutrients
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Let me pulse you with why you would choose a corky verses a cheater for this worm setup?
It seems that individuals say a cheater has more buoyancy then a corky.
Is there a big difference? No..................
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#815070 - 01/14/13 02:50 PM
Re: Plastic Worms setup question
[Re: RogueFanatic]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 03/30/08
Posts: 147
Loc: Washington
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Home made foam Rag bodies (pool noodles) with no yarn or yarn sometimes (dirty water) are one of my favorite drift bobbers with the worm. They give the worm excellent floatation and the flat front adds a little bit of wiggle movement. I've been using the fairly new clear rubber Beau Mac Wedgies to pin them.
In between the drift bobber and the threaded worm, I'll add a mono. barbed (1/16" tags) float stop knot (uni), slid into the head of the worm aways to pin the worm to stop scrunching and allows hook hang back if desired.
I also like adding a very small home made pinned (wedggie) minnie Rag in between the hook, worm to balance and add floatation to the worm.
Rag and worm rigged wacky style can be productive as well. I like to thread the worm onto the leader at the center balance point. I'll pin the Rag (wedggie), worm ( short barbed float stop knot), to be able to give it a little bit of hook hang back, no minnie Rag.
GG
Edited by Gray Ghost (02/01/13 08:10 PM)
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#815095 - 01/14/13 04:48 PM
Re: Plastic Worms setup question
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My Waders are Moist
Registered: 11/20/08
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Loc: PNW
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I carolina rig them, except when I Texas rif them.
Go Sox, cds Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? Say it ain't so! Corkies def cause more spin than cheaters. Spin messes up the presentations and can cause nasty tangle.
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#815103 - 01/14/13 06:10 PM
Re: Plastic Worms setup question
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My Waders are Moist
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Caroina rigged, whacky style and double stacked.
Hell ya!
Go Sox, cds Lets go bobber fish'un with some worms on the Sack! I got the suds! How about next Sunday afternoon after the 49ers game? Nothin' else worth doing at that time............
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#815113 - 01/14/13 06:42 PM
Re: Plastic Worms setup question
[Re: TheHunt]
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 08/02/12
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sorry to go off subject, but i seem to only see these being used on smaller tribs?
what's to stop a guy from using these on larger bodies of water like the columbia or snake?
those two tone paddletail rvrfishr worms look deadly...
Tyler
Edited by Yak-Fresh (01/14/13 06:42 PM)
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#815118 - 01/14/13 07:44 PM
Re: Plastic Worms setup question
[Re: DrifterWA]
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ExtenZe Field Tester
Registered: 11/10/09
Posts: 7961
Loc: Vancouver, WA
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Let me pulse you with why you would choose a corky verses a cheater for this worm setup?
It seems that individuals say a cheater has more buoyancy then a corky.
Is there a big difference? No.................. I agree. They're both Styrofoam now so buoyancy would be equal for equal size. But, these worms are usually very buoyant, so buoyancy is not an issue with this rigging. I've noticed that drift bobber popularity is sort of regional. North = Cheater Mid = Corky South = Puffball
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#815120 - 01/14/13 07:51 PM
Re: Plastic Worms setup question
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Caroina rigged, whacky style and double stacked.
Hell ya!
Go Sox, cds Go wacky or go home. Never thread or go holey.
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#815122 - 01/14/13 08:01 PM
Re: Plastic Worms setup question
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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Worms for steelhead are just an urban myth perpetrated on the fishing community by flynymphers...they're for bass.
Fish on...
Todd
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#815126 - 01/14/13 08:34 PM
Re: Plastic Worms setup question
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ExtenZe Field Tester
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Prolly Skittles these days. But you never see the inside of the boat or the van and live to tell.
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#815213 - 01/14/13 11:48 PM
Re: Plastic Worms setup question
[Re: Todd]
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I'm not short, I'm 'fun size'
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Worms for steelhead are just an urban myth perpetrated on the fishing community by flynymphers...they're for bass.
Fish on...
Todd  And some here think there is a difference between a Carolina rig and a Texas rig.  LMAO
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#815271 - 01/15/13 01:02 PM
Re: Plastic Worms setup question
[Re: sykofish]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 02/03/09
Posts: 231
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I guess that I will chime in here. This question only pertains to using an artificial worm under a float (as in float fishing). Just out of curiosity, do any of you have any preference in regards to using a worm that has been threaded onto your leader, or one that has been threaded onto a jig hook? If so why?
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#815320 - 01/15/13 04:01 PM
Re: Plastic Worms setup question
[Re: SkykomishSunrise]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 03/30/08
Posts: 147
Loc: Washington
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To rig for Bobber Doggin/Float Drifting, rig a leader threaded float worm and usually with some kind of drift bobber.
Some think a weighted jig hook comes unhooked easier than a octopus hook, because of the weight leverage of the weighted jig hook.
If one prefers using octopus style hooks over weighted jig hooks, rig a leader threaded neutral/sink worm.
I like using bait weights (solid brass bead, Cheater weight, egg weight) with a leader threaded neutral/sink worm for suspended (1-2' above bottom) float fishing. Peg the bait weight and worm (mono. 1/16" barbed uni float stop knot) to stop scrunching.
My favorite bait weights are nickel plated solid brass beads (9/32", 11/32" & 3/8") that are painted with transparent Dick Nite Fishermun's Lure-Coat (two coats/dips) and CS Coatings UV Blast (one coat/dip). The nickel bleeds through for an awesome uv candy color. These can also be used for jig heads with an 18 X 1" escutcheon pin.
GG
Edited by Gray Ghost (01/15/13 04:05 PM)
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#815504 - 01/16/13 08:21 AM
Re: Plastic Worms setup question
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 07/18/11
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Loc: Monroe, WA
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#815509 - 01/16/13 09:31 AM
Re: Plastic Worms setup question
[Re: SkykomishSunrise]
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River Nutrients
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Loc: East of Aberdeen, West of Mont...
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I guess that I will chime in here. This question only pertains to using an artificial worm under a float (as in float fishing). Just out of curiosity, do any of you have any preference in regards to using a worm that has been threaded onto your leader, or one that has been threaded onto a jig hook? If so why? Jig head......can change color, easily. I'm a newbie, to using PW, so still learning. I've been fishing the PW out of my boat......really makes it easy to fish a whole stretch of river, with the bobber/jig/PW. 1/15/13....Just trying....I use PP, Hi Vis, 75 yds. with leader below to fill the spool. I fished a stretch where I was into the backing....75 yds. seemed like a mile...........didn't catch any fish but sure allowed me to cover the whole section of water. Oh.....the picture to the left, was my 1st PW caught Steelhead.....thank heavens it took my bobber down twice, gave me a chance...lmao
Edited by DrifterWA (01/16/13 10:30 AM)
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#815536 - 01/16/13 12:38 PM
Re: Plastic Worms setup question
[Re: Nick Berto]
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I dig the nightmare rags Nick.
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#816589 - 01/20/13 06:45 PM
Re: Plastic Worms setup question
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 01/05/08
Posts: 124
Loc: Puyallup, WA
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I like to peg a small Corky above the worm to protect the worm from getting pushed down. When that happens, the worm starts to spin and I don't want that going on. The best toothpicks for pegging are the long tapers. They usually have a square center and a nice long (round) taper. Always peg the worm side of the Corky (or whatever) and leave a little space between the Corky and worm.  I picked up the wrong tooth picks. WHAT A PAIN IN THE A$$... Live and learn...
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#816601 - 01/20/13 07:49 PM
Re: Plastic Worms setup question
[Re: TheHunt]
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ExtenZe Field Tester
Registered: 11/10/09
Posts: 7961
Loc: Vancouver, WA
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I like to peg a small Corky above the worm to protect the worm from getting pushed down. When that happens, the worm starts to spin and I don't want that going on. The best toothpicks for pegging are the long tapers. They usually have a square center and a nice long (round) taper. Always peg the worm side of the Corky (or whatever) and leave a little space between the Corky and worm.  I picked up the wrong tooth picks. WHAT A PAIN IN THE A$$... Live and learn... Yep, gotta have them nice long tapers for deep Corky penetration. I nip 'em with a little sidecutter instead of breaking them, leaving a light 1/8" exposed so you can tighten, loosen, what have you. Journeyman stuff. 
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