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#820611 - 02/05/13 05:27 PM Re: Who does Wayne LaPierre and the NRA represent? [Re: Illahee]
redhook
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what is an assault weapon?

a weapon used to assault people?

start banning "assault weapons", and criminals will use the much cheaper method.... and way more damaging... a shotgun

banning the .50 cal will do nothing as well.. how many drive bys, bank robberies, and mass shootings were commited with a 35 pound rifle? (i do know of 1 possible Wells Fargo Truck heist that may have happened).. how many airplanes have been shot down (thats what they say will happen), with said cartridge on American soil...

why on earth would a caliber even be talked about? is a .50 BMG going to kill you more than a .30-06? or lets go even lower, a .222 Swift?

thats just ridiculous...

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#820613 - 02/05/13 05:37 PM Re: Who does Wayne LaPierre and the NRA represent? [Re: ]
Illahee Offline
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Registered: 05/22/05
Posts: 3771
Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: Illahee
Originally Posted By: Hankster
Ban whatever you like. When you figure out it didn't make any difference, then what are you going to ban?


If I were King I would ban stupid, which would greatly reduce the membership on the website.

That would have to include you. DF has posted many statistics that clearly show a ban of the guns you don't like would do virtually nothing to change anything except to ban guns you don't like.



Have you ever been issued an assault weapon? You must first pass a rigorous training program, followed by hands on proficiency live fire testing.
Why do you suppose that is Hank?
So I do believe without extensive training, civilians should not own assult weapons, besides what do they really need them for?

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#820619 - 02/05/13 05:52 PM Re: Who does Wayne LaPierre and the NRA represent? [Re: Illahee]
redhook
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well the "assault" weapons you are reffering to are all full auto/selective fire rifles and guns... so if that is what classifies an "assault" weapon, civilians cant own them unless going through a rigorous background check and paying out the yang to obtain one... and not all states even allow it regardless if you have a class 3 or not...

if you are labeling something an "assault" weapon, just because it looks like one, thats just stupid...

just because it looks like a Vette, doesnt mean that 4 cylinder under the hood will make it perform like one...

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#820621 - 02/05/13 06:01 PM Re: Who does Wayne LaPierre and the NRA represent? [Re: ]
Illahee Offline
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I think your one of the people who should not be allowed to own any kind of gun, or any sharp objects for that matter.

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#820622 - 02/05/13 06:02 PM Re: Who does Wayne LaPierre and the NRA represent? [Re: Illahee]
Achewter Offline


Registered: 02/02/04
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Loc: N of Seattle
Originally Posted By: Illahee
Originally Posted By: willametteriveroutlaw
Originally Posted By: Illahee
Guns larger than 50 caliber are banned from civilian ownership, is this a violation of the second amendment?


At what point do you consider the second amendment infringed?

BTW, with the proper permits you can own a rifle larger than 50 caliber..


The point is many weapons are already banned, and it doesn't violate the second amendment, so banning any particular weapon or magazine doesn't violate anyone's right to own or bear arms, unless your a complete idiot and can't pass the back ground checks.

Or they just ban all the guns you prefer to own. Why should I loose any of MY rights. I buy guns to hunt with I don't own an AR but I do own hunting rifles that will take large mags. I don't want anyone close to Fn with my rights. I also don't believe it will happen now. I am torn over suporting the NRA but do believe without them I would have already lost some of my rights and it pisses me off. Problem is the NRA is the only game in town definding my gun rights with any balls.
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#820625 - 02/05/13 06:11 PM Re: Who does Wayne LaPierre and the NRA represent? [Re: Illahee]
redhook
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Originally Posted By: Illahee
I think your one of the people who should not be allowed to own any kind of gun, or any sharp objects for that matter.


well thats great that you can form that opinion over the internet towards someone you have never met... the FBI/NICS doesnt say the same as you however...

i have owned many "assault" weapons as you call them, and not once have i every thought about, or attempted to hurt anyone with any of them... why do you think i should be punnished because of someone else?

why do i need them? why do the police need them?... i WANT them because i enjoy shooting them, i enjoy the history about them, and the operations of them....

what are you gonna tell all the Vets that come back from wars, and want to get into "Military Rifle" shooting competitions? too bad, you cant have them, even if you almost died for this country?

untill the idiots running their mouths about "assault" weapons realize that ANY WEAPON could be an "assault" weapon, you are just screwing with the lives of the good people that enjoy them...

oh, and noone is gonna take my hatchets away... how would i cut wood?

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#820633 - 02/05/13 07:09 PM Re: Who does Wayne LaPierre and the NRA represent? [Re: ]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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Registered: 01/31/02
Posts: 4450
Loc: B'ham
Illahee's point is well-taken and Red-Hook proves it. Everyone agrees that guns shouldn't be in the "wrong hands" but who gets to make that call? Most of us would agree that Red Hook shows a continued pattern or questionable decisions and general lack of foresight. If he did something stupid with a gun and was involved in firearm accident that injured himself or someone else (I'm not implying maliciousness), none of us would be surprised and many would say that he probably shouldn't have had one to begin with.

Naturally, the person that is forced from being a gun owner (Red Hook in this case) is going to claim an invasion of their rights.

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#820638 - 02/05/13 07:29 PM Re: Who does Wayne LaPierre and the NRA represent? [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
redhook
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have we met?

you seem to know so much about me and what ive done and do...

ive been shooting guns since i was probably 4 years old... ive been shooting trap since i was 7 years old...

i have owned everything from "assault" weapons to lever action Marlins...

with the exception of a couple guns that i bought from friends, i have purchased every single one of the guns i have owned from stores, and walked right out with them the same day i went in... i have never been denied a rifle, nor will i ever expect to be denied.. i have never been charged with a felony, IE Domestic Violence, Assault, Attempted Murder, ect... i have never been to jail or arrested for anything...

i have put alot of time honing my skills and being versed with the weapons i own/owned, and shoot... i have 2 true hobbies in this world, 1 is fishing, the other is guns... its what i do, and im really really good at it...

and finally, i really dont care what you think i should and shouldnt be allowed to own/do... you DONT know me... you form an opinion about me after reading little white letters on a black screen, then spew a bunch of garbage nonsense opinions about someone you know jack sh!t about.... you should probably be kept from doing something as well...

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#820645 - 02/05/13 07:56 PM Re: Who does Wayne LaPierre and the NRA represent? [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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#820647 - 02/05/13 08:00 PM Re: Who does Wayne LaPierre and the NRA represent? [Re: ]
redhook
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put your money where your mouth is Sheila...

and ill be back helping friends with their businesses in a month or so just like always... i dont need to "job hunt", people call me... nice try tho... when i have the opportunity to do a full time gig in my main field (carpentry), its only going to take 1 call, and that will be the end of that....

but thats not what we are talking about here....

im not "full of myself", im "fully confident" in my skills, and will put them up any day of the week... i have challenged anyone that has said otherwise to go for a day at the range, and see just how confident they are..... guess how many have taken the opportunity to shut ol redhook up for good?


ZERO...

put your money where your mouth is maam, shut me up if you are so confident in your own skill set that you think you can just show me whats what without ever having laid eyes on me...

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#820648 - 02/05/13 08:00 PM Re: Who does Wayne LaPierre and the NRA represent? [Re: ]
redhook
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whered you go Sheila? now you say stuff then delete it? wouldnt be the first time people have done that to me... wuss...

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#820649 - 02/05/13 08:01 PM Re: Who does Wayne LaPierre and the NRA represent? [Re: ]
Sol Duc Offline
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Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 15727
Originally Posted By: redhook
its what i do, and im really really good at it...


Yer so full of yourself.....too bad your job hunting skills are so abysmal.
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#820651 - 02/05/13 08:03 PM Re: Who does Wayne LaPierre and the NRA represent? [Re: Sol Duc]
redhook
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there ya are Wanda... keep up or shut up...

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