My mother took an appetite stimulant called Marinol.
It's marijuana derived.
It was amazing to see the "weirdness" from some of the docs when it came to that drug.
"Oooh, I don't prescribe that."

The more correct answer as to if MJ is legal is "it depends."


Per Federal law:
No possession, use, growing, sale, for any reason other than sanctioned research.

Per state law:
Possession under an ounce is legal for everyone over 21.
Use by anyone over 21 is fine.
Purchasing is not legal unless you have a MMJ card.
Sale to MMJ card holders is fine.
While tolerated in some areas, MMJ stores are walking a thin line. Some have been raided by local PD, or threatened through their landlords by Federal alphabet agencies and closed that way.
Growing for MMJ card holders is fine, up to a certain amount of finished product, and a number of plants.

Again, the answer is, it depends.

I have had people look down on the fact that I would use MJ to alleviate my back symptoms and have told more than one that they should have to tred in my shoes for awhile.
Course some people know it all and can diagnose others without having any medical training or knowing any of the history of that person.

Fishy

FaK I been smoking this [Bleeeeep!] and never new it was against the law, anyone remember Kona Gold,Yummie!!!PEACE

It doesn't really matter if it is legal or illegal at this point. The voters have spoken.
The Feds may object, but you can bet more states will be passing laws legalizing it.
Once enough states get on the bandwagon and make it legal the Feds won't be able to do much.
Weed being illegal will go by the wayside just like prohibition did.

I am probably one of the only few people that have never smoked pot... and not because I didn't want to, but it wasn't right at the time it was offered... probably because there were shrooms to be consumed at the time...

the way I see it... anyone that can find that thing, that they like, that makes them happy... as long as you are not hurting anybody or anything more than a few brain cells... more power too ya...

I've found my happy place with beer, rum, girls and fishing... not neccessarily in that order

I think there was a song about that...Loudon Wainright.. How di it go? Oh Yeah..

Keep your hemp and your mushrooms, the smack and nebutol.
Me, I'm into fruit and grains, gimme alcohol.
Drinks before dinner and wine with dinner and after dinner drinks
Single entandra, please help me Rhonda, search for my cufflinks.
Come with me and you will see that it's gonna be alright,
Cuz Rudolf the red nosed Wino is gonna guide our sliegh tonight. Yee Haw !

It is interesting to witness the polarization that occurs around this particular plant from various camps....

After loosing a handful of friends and family to cancer, and walking with them to the bitter end, I started looking at other remedies a few year back. Found that anything other than chemo, surgery and radiation were illegal amongst the AMA crowd. Seems to be a rather limited palette to create a beautiful cure. My stalwart octogenarian momma was in the hospital for nearly 3 weeks at the end of last year. Sis & I were there 24/7. What we witnessed sealed the deal for us that aside from putting a body back together after a traumatic accident, MD's are mostly just highly indebted pharmaceutical reps and hospitals are just like any other business that advertises.

In contrast, hemp has quite a storied and troubled history. It was a historically known remedy for multiple afflictions, appearing as such in medical manuals, and in commodity bulk bundles was considered payment for debts. Seems that there was a kerfuffle with the timber/pulp interests that resulted in its removal from commerce in more recent history. Getting back to the medicinal aspects, what would happen to the capital investments within the medical profession/business if cancer, and many other costly diseases, could be cured very inexpensively?

Heat catalyzes the chemical components of this plant, giving the hallucinogenic properties with which most of us have some familiarity. In the chemical components derived from its raw form, there is well-documented medical magic. It is primarily from this latter property that makes WAC 246-75 and RCW 69.51A interesting.

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This sad plant can't be all bad considering that the US government holds the patent for CBD's by assignment. Maybe that's where the medical profits will ultimately go? Interesting dots in interesting times.....

how the hell can the government have a patent on cannabinoids?

thats like having a patent on tree sap...

i would like to see them explain as to where they created CBD's and the medicinal properties of them....

My guess is Monsanto is working on some genetically engineered sh1t that will send you to the B Jesus belt.

Marinol isnt derived from anything tho, its synthetic... they could patent something like that, because they would be creating it... but how do you patent something that grows freely in the world, and has for thousands and thousands of years?

patenting something that grows within a plant is like patenting the C in CO2... i wonder if they have a patent on Dimethyltryptamine...

i am paying attention Hank...

as far as i know, there is no drugs on the market that have anything from the cannabis plant... the drugs on the market are synthetic versions of it... so if you have a synthetic version of it, why do you need the other version?

to me it looks like they patented it, just so noon else could...

because i read parts of the patent, and it talks as if THC and other CBD's are GOOD for you...

but its still illegal, and you cant have any....

Tommy Chong was right... you will see... about a year to a year and a half ago he did an interview, he said he wanted the federal government to decriminalize MJ, NOT regulate it, or have their hands anywhere near it, beceause they will just rape it to death, over price it, ect ect ect... which is what they are trying to do...

with 502 passed, the growers (you know, the dudes that have all the knowledge, and bust their ass to grow the product) are only going to get a measly 3 dollars per gram... the prosessors are getting 6 dollars per gram to package it, and the stores (state stores) will be getting 12-15 dollars per gram to sell it...

see the lopsidedness?

Probably afraid of some looking down their noses at her, and calling her a "stoner".

nope, at 3 dollars per gram, thats a whopping 84 dollars per ounce...

now count the price of pots, dirt and or hydroponics systems, fertilizers and nutrients, propane (if they are using CO2 generators), the electrical bill from the 4000 watts of light you are running, then your time....

for 84 bucks an ounce....

you spent all your time, knowledge and work for 84 bucks an ounce, and you send it to a packager who stuffs it in a bag after weighing it, and sells it to the stores for 168 dollars per ounce... then the state stores sell it at 12 dollars a gram, bringing in 336 (420 per ounce at 15 a gram) per ounce...

who did all the work here? its basically like commercial fisherman, they get say 5 bucks a pound for King, while the stores charge 30 per pound...

except if you disagree with the state on your wages/prices, they can if they want to, take it away from you...

all 502 really was, was a cover for losing the Alcohol taxes... with their prices, it will increase private under cover grow operations that already exist on some seriously large scales... they wont be able to legally sell it to the state, so they can dump their prices to say 10 a gram, or even 250 an ounce, and people will continue to buy it from underground sources vs the high priced stuff on the shelves....

as SD said it will be interesting to see how it unfolds, but honestly, i dont see a whole ton of actual good coming from 502.... except for the state....

The only reason people would look down on responsible pot use is because of the crap the Gubmint's been telling them for years...schit like "Reefer Madness" and a whole lot worse.

The Gubmint also doesn't like admitting that it's spent trillions and trillions of dollars over the year fighting something that doesn't need fighting, causing most of the problems around it themselves, and putting thousands and thousands of people into the penal system for no reason whatsoever.

No reason whatsoever, that is, unless you are in one of the many industries that benefits from it being illegal...the industries that support the prison system, pharmaceutical companies, the AMA, the timber/pulp industry, and any other agricultural interest that grows stuff for textiles (like the cotton industry), or the tobacco industry.

Marijuana was made illegal to either protect some other industry that can't compete on the open market with hemp or marijuana production, or to create an industry that is there only because MJ is illegal.

As usual, follow the money...you'll almost always fine a big money industry or three that loves the "free market" so long as it benefits them, and hates the "free market" when it helps their competitors.

These people are also known as "Fuckin Hypocrites".

Fish on...

Todd

F.uck you, Hank. You could have explained that - you didn't - and you call me an idiot for speculating?

Then why the fu.ck were you trying to get her to smoke it then?

My god you can be a fuckin' twat............

Menstrual cramps got you down?

Hank, i think what Dan was meaning is that he was thinking that she may have thought it was "socially inacceptable" and didnt want to get ridiculed or looked down upon because she smoked it.... he obviously didnt know that her lungs were seriously affected by the disease...

remember, we were talking about this very thing earlier in this thread...

Hank was just looking to be a f'n twat, and damned if he didn't succeed.

As an attorney destined to the fiery underworlds, there may be a glimmer of hope for your salvation yet. Tin foil & pink worms passed....