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#838627 - 05/14/13 03:52 PM Marco Rubio is outraged!
Todd Offline
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Here's the letter he sent to Treasury Secretary Jack Lew expressing his outrage at the IRS Commissioner over the IRS's focus on auditing TeaBagger groups:

Dear Secretary Lew:

Recent revelations about the Internal Revenue Service’s selective and deliberate targeting of conservative organizations are outrageous and seriously concerning. This years-long abuse of government power is an assault on the free speech rights of all Americans. This direct assault on our Constitution further justifies the American people’s distrust in government and its ability to properly implement our laws.

The American people deserve answers about how such seemingly unconstitutional and potentially criminal behavior could occur, and who else was aware of it throughout the Administration. It is imperative that you, your predecessor, and other past and present high-ranking officials at the Department of Treasury and IRS immediately testify before Congress.

The public expects your complete cooperation with both congressional investigations and potential criminal inquiries. If investigations reveal that bureaucrats or political appointees engaged in unconstitutional or criminal targeting of conservative taxpayers, they must be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. At a bare minimum, those involved with this deeply offensive use of government power have committed a violation of the public trust that has already had a profoundly chilling effect on free speech. Such behavior cannot be excused with a simple apology.

Furthermore, it is clear the IRS cannot operate with even a shred of the American people’s confidence under the current leadership. Therefore, I strongly urge that you and President Obama demand the IRS Commissioner’s resignation, effectively immediately. No government agency that has behaved in such a manner can possibly instill any faith and respect from the American public.

Sincerely,

Marco Rubio

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#838640 - 05/14/13 04:41 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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No, Obama didn't call for the resignation of the IRS Commissioner.

Why?

Because there isn't one.

Why not?

Because the nomination process for a new one for the vacant office has been filibustered by...drum roll...Congressional Republicans like Marco Rubio.

Maybe if he and the rest of the blowhards want some oversight over the IRS, and any other department, they should stop filibustering all the nominations.

What a fuckin fool...not surprised he's a TeaBagger darling.

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#838645 - 05/14/13 04:56 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Marco Rubio and other idiots like him should roll.

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#838652 - 05/14/13 05:31 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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No.

The biggest problem with this story is that there are SuperPAC's all over the place, all over the full political spectrum, who are in direct and obvious violation of the law by conducting political activity while being 501(c)(3)'s...it's not going after TeaBaggers that's the problem, it's not going after all of them that's the problem.

The IRS should audit all of them and hit all of the violators with massive tax bills.

Fish on...

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#838656 - 05/14/13 05:45 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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I haven't seen it yet.

This is just another symptom of the atrocious Citizens United ruling...and another problem that goes away tomorrow with publicly funded elections.

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#838657 - 05/14/13 05:47 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Todd]
Todd Offline
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The next question is whether or not the Republicans will waste as much time blaming this on Obama as they are wasting trying to blame Benghazi on Hillary.

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#838660 - 05/14/13 05:55 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Todd]
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Things are certain to become even more interesting when the I.R.S. has to enforce the funding mechanisms to feed the Affordable Care Act.

Don't fear the Taxman.
In my government I trust,
"Trust but verify".
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#838661 - 05/14/13 05:59 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: blackmouth]
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#838662 - 05/14/13 06:03 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Illahee]
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the IRS should audit the IRS... shiesty bastards..

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#838664 - 05/14/13 06:06 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
blackmouth Offline
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Originally Posted By: Natron
the IRS should audit the IRS... shiesty bastards..


No doubt that they would be to heart of the matter in no time.
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#838666 - 05/14/13 06:10 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: Illahee

Who would have guessed? Illahee-hee's political ideology is based on a '60s utopian socialist fairytale.

rofl

That was so good it deserved repeating.
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#838667 - 05/14/13 06:28 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: blackmouth]
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Maybe Marco should drink some water to cool himself down.......
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#838668 - 05/14/13 06:39 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: stonefish]
Todd Offline
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I wonder how outraged Marco "I'm Clearly a Fuckin Idiot" Rubio was when the IRS investigated the NAACP in 2004 after the NAACP criticized Dubya?

I suspect that he would have been about as outraged as KK at a petting zoo.

Kinda like how Issa is flipping out over the AP subpoena issue after he was one of 21 Congressmen who voted against a bill that would have prohibited the very thing that the DOJ just did...which, by the way, was authorized by the Patriot Act.

I think it's bullschit that those subpoenas were legal...but it's double bullschit for Republicans who supported the law that made it legal are now whining about it.

I hope their rampant hypocrisy (everyone's on this issue) should be exposed widely and often.

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#838670 - 05/14/13 06:45 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Yeah - makes one wonder where you and your crew were during the Bush years.

I told you Obama was every bit the asshat Bush was - but you can't seem to see that Obama and Bush are two peas in the same pod.
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#838671 - 05/14/13 06:48 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Dan S.]
Todd Offline
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Hank, get your head out of your ample ass...that's why I said "everyone's hypocrisy"...Senator Obama was one of the ones who sponsored the bill that would have exempted the AP from having their phone records being subpoenaed.

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#838672 - 05/14/13 06:49 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Dan S.]
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name 1 president that actually did anything good for the citizens besides Washington, Lincoln, and Kennedy...

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#838676 - 05/14/13 07:04 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Oh that's right - you did make one post critical of GWB.

smile
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#838682 - 05/14/13 07:23 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Todd]
Illyrian Offline
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Deja Vu, It is good that one cannot hold the O guy responsible for Benghazi, the IRS miscues and Fast and Furious. He fortunately has, as
did Reagan, a Paladin to take the blame. Reagan stayed clean in the
Iran/Contra debacle and the O guy will stay clean too. You couldn't expect the CinC to know what's going on. He had no teleprompter.

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#838683 - 05/14/13 07:27 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
Illahee Offline
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So where was your indignant outrage in 2004 when the IRS was investigating the NAACP and Greenpeace.
I'm still laughing about no head of the IRS because of filibustering obstructionism by the GOP.
And now the agency is failing, John Stewart might need some help with this comic heavy lifting.

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#838686 - 05/14/13 07:36 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Illahee]
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thats because Reagan didnt get caught...


did you know that a extremely high profile drug kingpin was involved in the Contra scandle?

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#838692 - 05/14/13 08:04 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
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Ross's capture was facilitated by his career-long dealer Oscar Danilo Blandon, who "set up" Ross. Blandón had close ties with the Contras, and had met with Contra leader Enrique Bermúdez on several occasions. Blandón was the link between the CIA and Contras during the Iran-Contra affair. Gary Webb interviewed Ross several times before breaking the story in 1996. Ross claims that the reason he was unfairly tried initially was because of his involvement in the scandal. Blandón received a 24-month sentence for his drug trafficking charges, and following his release, was hired by the Drug Enforcement Administration where he was salaried at US$42,000. Blandón was not a U.S. citizen/national, and is the only known foreigner not to be deported following conviction on drug trafficking charges in U.S. history[citation needed]. The INS was ordered to grant Blandón a green card, despite the criminal convictions, to allow him to work for the DEA. The DEA has claimed they no longer employ Blandón, and his whereabouts are unknown.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Freeway%22_Rick_Ross

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#838701 - 05/14/13 08:31 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Nancy had to sit him down and yell at Ronnie to get him to fess up and stop saying "I don't recall"...he also lied repeatedly about it and said it was not "arms for hostages" before Nancy sat him down and told him to stop being a liar.

He wasn't likely to get caught if Nancy hadn't ratted him out, since his administration destroyed a warehouse full of documents regarding the operation...something known as "obstruction of justice".

Character my ass...he sold weapons to our sworn enemy so that he could fund his private pet war in Nicaragua that Congress specifically forbade him from doing.

He's just as big a criminal as Ollie...he just had Ollie to fall on his sword for him, and then he got scratched right back with a pardon.

If that's your idea of "character" remind me to never do business with you wink

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#838705 - 05/14/13 08:53 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Reagan and character being used in the same sentence?




Shut up, Hank.
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#838708 - 05/14/13 09:03 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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So if I bang your wife and kick your dog and say "sorry - but I banged your wife and kicked your dog" we're all cool?

Not in my book we aren't.
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#838711 - 05/14/13 09:21 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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He did kick the country's dog, and bang the country's wife, and lie about it...repeatedly, over and over again.

Then he let Ollie twist in the wind by himself for it, when he should have been hanging there alongside him.

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#838712 - 05/14/13 09:25 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Originally Posted By: Hankster
So if I bang your wife and kick your dog and lie to you about it, that's better?



No, it's not better.

But in neither case is any character displayed - in both cases you're a dung beetle.
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#838716 - 05/14/13 09:47 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Apparently we do.
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#838719 - 05/14/13 09:58 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Dan S.]
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DanS does nothing on this site except SUCK the schlong of anyone Todd approves of. I pointed this out about 5 mos ago, now he says Ozero is chitbag. A pathetic little spineless midget that want's to belong/stay to the PP clique in the worse way. crazy
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#838720 - 05/14/13 10:11 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Sol Duc]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Run along and kill yourself Sol Cu.nt.
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#838722 - 05/14/13 10:14 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Sol Duc]
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i have to agree with Hank (i can only imaging whats going to come my way politically now)...

Reagan did have character, and charisma...

he still isnt one of the 3 presidents that i named that actually did things for their citizens, because he didnt, be did things against the citizens... and it failed miserably, and costs billions of dollars even doing it, while we/USA helped them....

every president since Kennedy has been bullsh!t, and it will never get better either... not because we as a nation couldnt do it, but because the entire fvcked up world we live in, wouldnt allow it...

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#838728 - 05/14/13 10:42 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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He doesn't get to "have character" because he finally fessed up about something he lied about repeatedly.

"Character" would have included not selling weapons to our enemy...aka "committing treason"...the real kind of treason, not the pretend kind that RWWJ's like to talk about when Obama does anything.

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#838730 - 05/14/13 10:49 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Todd]
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Ronny cut the GI bill on funding education for veterans. Others may have tried but Ronny actually did it, scumbag!!!

Character my azz.



Fishy
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#838733 - 05/14/13 11:01 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Somethingsmellsf]
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he had character... good? not so much, but he still had it... people listened to him, and swore by him... kinda like you and my mom do with HObama, Todd... i understand its great and all we as a nation can accept having a black president.... but hes just as crooked as the last one, and the one before, and the one before, and the 6 before that...

the US government, including the POTUS, are not there for you, they are there for themselves, you are just something they have to deal with... like a buzzing gnat on a nice summer BBQ day, bugging the sh!t out of you... they dont like you, they dont care about you...

if they did, our country truely would be great, not like what it has become...

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#838734 - 05/14/13 11:06 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Somethingsmellsf]
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The Tea Party and Rand Paul and Jim DeMint are lobbying for tax "sheltering" in overseas accounts. Romney didn't help himself in the election either.

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#838736 - 05/14/13 11:11 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Steelheadman]
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and Obama signed the Monsanto Protection Act....

your point?

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#838758 - 05/15/13 12:58 AM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
Somethingsmellsf Offline
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Originally Posted By: Natron
he had character... good? not so much, but he still had it... people listened to him, and swore by him... kinda like you and my mom do with HObama, Todd... i understand its great and all we as a nation can accept having a black president.... but hes just as crooked as the last one, and the one before, and the one before, and the 6 before that...

the US government, including the POTUS, are not there for you, they are there for themselves, you are just something they have to deal with... like a buzzing gnat on a nice summer BBQ day, bugging the sh!t out of you... they dont like you, they dont care about you...

if they did, our country truely would be great, not like what it has become...


Same as any corporation that the GOP kneels down to.


Fishy
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#838770 - 05/15/13 08:41 AM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Somethingsmellsf]
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So the Dems were caught lying and it's the Republicans fault?
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#838772 - 05/15/13 09:48 AM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
Somethingsmellsf Offline
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: Somethingsmellsf
Ronny cut the GI bill on funding education for veterans. Others may have tried but Ronny actually did it, scumbag!!!

Character my azz.



Fishy

How did he do that? He signed the G.I. Bill Continuation Act and Bush doubled the amount of GI Bill college benefits while providing a 13-week extension to federal unemployment benefits. I think you must have meant Obama cut the amount of GI Bill benefits.


Under Ronny, a GI had to contribute and would only be paid a certain amount directly related to his financial contribution instead of the GI bill that sent all those Vietnam vets to school.
You should be old enough to remember that.

Fishy
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#838773 - 05/15/13 09:49 AM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
So the Dems were caught lying and it's the Republicans fault?


Why not, Congress won't pay its own bills but its the Dem's fault!



Fishy
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#838833 - 05/15/13 03:17 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
So the Dems were caught lying and it's the Republicans fault?


What exactly did the Dems 'get caught' lying about Jerry? huh

Natron - There's actually a big difference between having character and being a character.

Not that I'd expect you to know that... doh

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#838842 - 05/15/13 03:47 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
Somethingsmellsf Offline
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: Somethingsmellsf
Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: Somethingsmellsf
Ronny cut the GI bill on funding education for veterans. Others may have tried but Ronny actually did it, scumbag!!!

Character my azz.



Fishy

How did he do that? He signed the G.I. Bill Continuation Act and Bush doubled the amount of GI Bill college benefits while providing a 13-week extension to federal unemployment benefits. I think you must have meant Obama cut the amount of GI Bill benefits.


Under Ronny, a GI had to contribute and would only be paid a certain amount directly related to his financial contribution instead of the GI bill that sent all those Vietnam vets to school.
You should be old enough to remember that.

Fishy

I'm old enough to remember they started doing that in '77. GI Bill benefits were scheduled to end in '89 and Reagan made them permanent with the GI Bill Continuation Act.


Ronny changed how those benefits were paid and that vets had to contribute an equal part.

Come on you should know this.

Fishy


Edited by Somethingsmellsf (05/15/13 03:47 PM)
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#838844 - 05/15/13 03:54 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
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Carter started it, Reagen extended it fully...


personally i think vets should get more...

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#838851 - 05/15/13 05:26 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Todd]
blackmouth Offline
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Originally Posted By: Todd
I haven't seen it yet.

This is just another symptom of the atrocious Citizens United ruling...and another problem that goes away tomorrow with publicly funded elections.

Fish on...

Todd


Humm, we may have a problem with government overreach, government encroachment into/onto private enterprise, and Todd's answere is-------- more government.
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#838853 - 05/15/13 05:37 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: blackmouth]
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As seldom as agree with Todd on most things political, publicly funded elections and term limits are the only way this country will get anyone elected that has not been bought and paid for.
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#838855 - 05/15/13 05:46 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: docspud]
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As long as we continue to let people spend billions to get elected we will get only those beholden to their donors. Todd is right.
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#838860 - 05/15/13 05:57 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Dave Vedder]
blackmouth Offline
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Todd was right on the day of his birth, he's been left since then,
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#838861 - 05/15/13 06:07 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: blackmouth]
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Todd might be a lefty, but his statement that Dave replicated is dead on...

until this country runs on the "people" and not the "money", we will be in the same world of sh!t we have been for the last 100 years, regardless of who is the President...

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#838869 - 05/15/13 06:47 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
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Stange times make for strange bedfellows,



but then you could always hide in your bomb shelter. and listen to,

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#838870 - 05/15/13 06:48 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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blackmouth is too busy trying to bash Toff to realize that Toff is right, and as usual, blackmouth is wrong.

He's been wrong so often that he's now an expert at it.
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#838871 - 05/15/13 06:48 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
Illahee Offline
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Originally Posted By: Natron
Todd might be a lefty, but his statement that Dave replicated is dead on...

until this country runs on the "people" and not the "money", we will be in the same world of sh!t we have been for the last 100 years, regardless of who is the President...



America's future took a huge hit when the Supremes ruled that corporations were people and money was free speech.

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#838874 - 05/15/13 07:20 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Dan S.]
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Originally Posted By: Dan S.
blackmouth is too busy trying to bash Toff to realize that Toff is right, and as usual, blackmouth is wrong.

He's been wrong so often that he's now an expert at it.


Blackcockinmouth is definitely giving Slappy, Troll Dunce and Leadeater a run for their money!
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#838875 - 05/15/13 07:45 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: 4Salt]
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There's a short list of folks who pretty much assure me that I'm correct, and they do it by disagreeing with me.

blackmouth definitely has assured me that I am correct on this one.

Fish on...

Todd
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#838884 - 05/15/13 08:54 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Todd]
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Todd says to his crew.
kneel
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#838890 - 05/15/13 09:49 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: Hankster
What part of starting that in '77 did you have trouble with? Rather than thinking it was Reagan who started that, why don't you use the power of Google or whatever search engine you aren't using to find out?

Since Fishy is either too lazy or doesn't know how to do that, I took it upon myself to do it for him. wink

"The United States military moved to an all-volunteer force in 1973, and veterans continued to receive benefits, in part as an inducement to enlist, under the Veterans Educational Assistance Program (VEAP) and the Montgomery G.I. Bill (MGIB). From December 1976 through 1987, veterans received assistance under the VEAP. The VEAP departed from previous programs by requiring participants to make a contribution to their education benefits. The Veterans Administration then matched their contributions at a rate of 2 to 1. Enlisted personnel could contribute up to $100 a month up to a maximum of $2700. Benefits could be claimed for up to 36 months.


The above in red is what I was talking about! It completely changed what the GI bill was, it went from a paid program to a contribution program.

Step away from the radiation Hank!

Christ I did not need to google anything cause I lived it.

Fishy



Edited by Somethingsmellsf (05/15/13 09:51 PM)
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#838891 - 05/15/13 10:23 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Somethingsmellsf]
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My question is how does he stay online all day and still get a pay check? It's like they are paying him to FO all day.
Hank you might as well keep working, retirement is going to be a big disappointment.

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#838897 - 05/15/13 10:30 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
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#838902 - 05/15/13 10:51 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
Natron
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even Chuck Norris hates Obama... and i dare anyone to say anything to him about it....

oddly, there are several Reagan references in this as well...



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#838909 - 05/16/13 12:13 AM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: Somethingsmellsf
Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: Hankster
What part of starting that in '77 did you have trouble with? Rather than thinking it was Reagan who started that, why don't you use the power of Google or whatever search engine you aren't using to find out?

Since Fishy is either too lazy or doesn't know how to do that, I took it upon myself to do it for him. wink

"The United States military moved to an all-volunteer force in 1973, and veterans continued to receive benefits, in part as an inducement to enlist, under the Veterans Educational Assistance Program (VEAP) and the Montgomery G.I. Bill (MGIB). From December 1976 through 1987, veterans received assistance under the VEAP. The VEAP departed from previous programs by requiring participants to make a contribution to their education benefits. The Veterans Administration then matched their contributions at a rate of 2 to 1. Enlisted personnel could contribute up to $100 a month up to a maximum of $2700. Benefits could be claimed for up to 36 months.


The above in red is what I was talking about! It completely changed what the GI bill was, it went from a paid program to a contribution program.

Step away from the radiation Hank!

Christ I did not need to google anything cause I lived it.

Fishy


I don't know how you could forget what you said, but just to refresh the memory you seem to be lacking, it was: "Ronny cut the GI bill on funding education for veterans. Others may have tried but Ronny actually did it, scumbag!!!"

Then, just to confirm what a dimbulb you are, you let all of us know you think Reagan was elected prior to when the VEAP program was initiated, but still think it's his fault anyway.

Maybe it's you who could use a little radiation. wink

BTW, the GI Bill was set to expire in '89 and Reagan signed the bill to make it permanent. Included in that bill was a provision where members of the reserves would be eligible as well.

If you're at all interested (or capable), google up some of his campaign speeches where he was saying it was a shame that vets hadn't had an increase in GI Bill benefits in too many years.


It would appear that I should have googled, I had my dates wrong.
Now you can do your dance of joy, at least I can admit when I am wrong!

Fishy
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#838918 - 05/16/13 01:08 AM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Somethingsmellsf]
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So the Teaparty is going to spend the taxpayers money to produce a political sideshow again?
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#838929 - 05/16/13 08:22 AM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Steelheadman]
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Originally Posted By: Steelheadman
So the Teaparty is going to spend the taxpayers money to produce a political sideshow again?



Seems the IRS spent the taxpayers money on 501C4 Teaparty groups to produce the political sideshow.
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#838931 - 05/16/13 08:55 AM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
Originally Posted By: Steelheadman
So the Teaparty is going to spend the taxpayers money to produce a political sideshow again?



Seems the IRS spent the taxpayers money on 501C4 Teaparty groups to produce the political sideshow.


As Todd pointed out the head of the IRS was a Bush appointee. The IRS went after liberal groups too. When the IRS targeted liberals.
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#838967 - 05/16/13 03:56 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Steelheadman]
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Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
Seems the IRS spent the taxpayers money on 501C4 Teaparty groups to produce the political sideshow.


If the IRS's intent was to create a political sideshow Jerry... why was so much effort put in to keep it a secret? huh wink
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#838972 - 05/16/13 05:05 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: 4Salt]
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If one wants to argue that this administration is incompetent, it’s an easy argument. But to see Machiavellian evil here is a big leap. The Teaparty has been Obama’s biggest friend. They weaken the Republican Party, kept the republicans from a senate majority and are generally the best thing that ever happened to Obama. If he has Machiavellian tendencies he would help them every chance he gets. Just saying.
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#839049 - 05/17/13 08:29 AM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
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Grant announced today that he would retire June 3, despite being appointed as commissioner of the tax-exempt office May 8, a week ago.


Probably gives him a much larger retirement package.
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