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#838842 - 05/15/13 03:47 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
Somethingsmellsf Offline
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: Somethingsmellsf
Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: Somethingsmellsf
Ronny cut the GI bill on funding education for veterans. Others may have tried but Ronny actually did it, scumbag!!!

Character my azz.



Fishy

How did he do that? He signed the G.I. Bill Continuation Act and Bush doubled the amount of GI Bill college benefits while providing a 13-week extension to federal unemployment benefits. I think you must have meant Obama cut the amount of GI Bill benefits.


Under Ronny, a GI had to contribute and would only be paid a certain amount directly related to his financial contribution instead of the GI bill that sent all those Vietnam vets to school.
You should be old enough to remember that.

Fishy

I'm old enough to remember they started doing that in '77. GI Bill benefits were scheduled to end in '89 and Reagan made them permanent with the GI Bill Continuation Act.


Ronny changed how those benefits were paid and that vets had to contribute an equal part.

Come on you should know this.

Fishy


Edited by Somethingsmellsf (05/15/13 03:47 PM)
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#838844 - 05/15/13 03:54 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
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Carter started it, Reagen extended it fully...


personally i think vets should get more...

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#838851 - 05/15/13 05:26 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
I haven't seen it yet.

This is just another symptom of the atrocious Citizens United ruling...and another problem that goes away tomorrow with publicly funded elections.

Fish on...

Todd


Humm, we may have a problem with government overreach, government encroachment into/onto private enterprise, and Todd's answere is-------- more government.
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#838853 - 05/15/13 05:37 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: blackmouth]
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As seldom as agree with Todd on most things political, publicly funded elections and term limits are the only way this country will get anyone elected that has not been bought and paid for.
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#838855 - 05/15/13 05:46 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: docspud]
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As long as we continue to let people spend billions to get elected we will get only those beholden to their donors. Todd is right.
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#838860 - 05/15/13 05:57 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Dave Vedder]
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Todd was right on the day of his birth, he's been left since then,
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#838861 - 05/15/13 06:07 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: blackmouth]
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Todd might be a lefty, but his statement that Dave replicated is dead on...

until this country runs on the "people" and not the "money", we will be in the same world of sh!t we have been for the last 100 years, regardless of who is the President...

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#838869 - 05/15/13 06:47 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
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Stange times make for strange bedfellows,



but then you could always hide in your bomb shelter. and listen to,

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#838870 - 05/15/13 06:48 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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blackmouth is too busy trying to bash Toff to realize that Toff is right, and as usual, blackmouth is wrong.

He's been wrong so often that he's now an expert at it.
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#838871 - 05/15/13 06:48 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Natron
Todd might be a lefty, but his statement that Dave replicated is dead on...

until this country runs on the "people" and not the "money", we will be in the same world of sh!t we have been for the last 100 years, regardless of who is the President...



America's future took a huge hit when the Supremes ruled that corporations were people and money was free speech.

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#838874 - 05/15/13 07:20 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Dan S.]
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Originally Posted By: Dan S.
blackmouth is too busy trying to bash Toff to realize that Toff is right, and as usual, blackmouth is wrong.

He's been wrong so often that he's now an expert at it.


Blackcockinmouth is definitely giving Slappy, Troll Dunce and Leadeater a run for their money!
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#838875 - 05/15/13 07:45 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: 4Salt]
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There's a short list of folks who pretty much assure me that I'm correct, and they do it by disagreeing with me.

blackmouth definitely has assured me that I am correct on this one.

Fish on...

Todd
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#838884 - 05/15/13 08:54 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Todd]
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Todd says to his crew.
kneel
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#838890 - 05/15/13 09:49 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: Hankster
What part of starting that in '77 did you have trouble with? Rather than thinking it was Reagan who started that, why don't you use the power of Google or whatever search engine you aren't using to find out?

Since Fishy is either too lazy or doesn't know how to do that, I took it upon myself to do it for him. wink

"The United States military moved to an all-volunteer force in 1973, and veterans continued to receive benefits, in part as an inducement to enlist, under the Veterans Educational Assistance Program (VEAP) and the Montgomery G.I. Bill (MGIB). From December 1976 through 1987, veterans received assistance under the VEAP. The VEAP departed from previous programs by requiring participants to make a contribution to their education benefits. The Veterans Administration then matched their contributions at a rate of 2 to 1. Enlisted personnel could contribute up to $100 a month up to a maximum of $2700. Benefits could be claimed for up to 36 months.


The above in red is what I was talking about! It completely changed what the GI bill was, it went from a paid program to a contribution program.

Step away from the radiation Hank!

Christ I did not need to google anything cause I lived it.

Fishy



Edited by Somethingsmellsf (05/15/13 09:51 PM)
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I think name-calling is the right way to handle this one/Dan S

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#838891 - 05/15/13 10:23 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Somethingsmellsf]
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My question is how does he stay online all day and still get a pay check? It's like they are paying him to FO all day.
Hank you might as well keep working, retirement is going to be a big disappointment.

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#838897 - 05/15/13 10:30 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
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#838902 - 05/15/13 10:51 PM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
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even Chuck Norris hates Obama... and i dare anyone to say anything to him about it....

oddly, there are several Reagan references in this as well...



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#838909 - 05/16/13 12:13 AM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: ]
Somethingsmellsf Offline
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Registered: 12/15/02
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: Somethingsmellsf
Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: Hankster
What part of starting that in '77 did you have trouble with? Rather than thinking it was Reagan who started that, why don't you use the power of Google or whatever search engine you aren't using to find out?

Since Fishy is either too lazy or doesn't know how to do that, I took it upon myself to do it for him. wink

"The United States military moved to an all-volunteer force in 1973, and veterans continued to receive benefits, in part as an inducement to enlist, under the Veterans Educational Assistance Program (VEAP) and the Montgomery G.I. Bill (MGIB). From December 1976 through 1987, veterans received assistance under the VEAP. The VEAP departed from previous programs by requiring participants to make a contribution to their education benefits. The Veterans Administration then matched their contributions at a rate of 2 to 1. Enlisted personnel could contribute up to $100 a month up to a maximum of $2700. Benefits could be claimed for up to 36 months.


The above in red is what I was talking about! It completely changed what the GI bill was, it went from a paid program to a contribution program.

Step away from the radiation Hank!

Christ I did not need to google anything cause I lived it.

Fishy


I don't know how you could forget what you said, but just to refresh the memory you seem to be lacking, it was: "Ronny cut the GI bill on funding education for veterans. Others may have tried but Ronny actually did it, scumbag!!!"

Then, just to confirm what a dimbulb you are, you let all of us know you think Reagan was elected prior to when the VEAP program was initiated, but still think it's his fault anyway.

Maybe it's you who could use a little radiation. wink

BTW, the GI Bill was set to expire in '89 and Reagan signed the bill to make it permanent. Included in that bill was a provision where members of the reserves would be eligible as well.

If you're at all interested (or capable), google up some of his campaign speeches where he was saying it was a shame that vets hadn't had an increase in GI Bill benefits in too many years.


It would appear that I should have googled, I had my dates wrong.
Now you can do your dance of joy, at least I can admit when I am wrong!

Fishy
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The idea of a middle class life is slowly drifting away as each and every day we realize that our nation is becoming more of a corporatacracy.

I think name-calling is the right way to handle this one/Dan S

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#838918 - 05/16/13 01:08 AM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Somethingsmellsf]
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So the Teaparty is going to spend the taxpayers money to produce a political sideshow again?
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#838929 - 05/16/13 08:22 AM Re: Marco Rubio is outraged! [Re: Steelheadman]
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Originally Posted By: Steelheadman
So the Teaparty is going to spend the taxpayers money to produce a political sideshow again?



Seems the IRS spent the taxpayers money on 501C4 Teaparty groups to produce the political sideshow.
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