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#840345 - 05/23/13 11:49 PM Re: Skagit Bridge I-5 [Re: Rocket Red]
Steelheadman Offline
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Registered: 03/15/99
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Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA
Originally Posted By: Rocket Red
WSDOT keeps stepping on its weiner this year.

The brand new 520 pontoons are cracked and now this. I have heard that a lot of engineers were trying to move over to Bridge Preservation to get away from the heat on the Engineering side because of the 520 fvckup, but now Bridge Pres is going to be under fire.

Transportation secretary's seat is probably on fire this evening.


An eyewitness says an oversize truck hit the bridge and that caused the collapse.
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#840346 - 05/23/13 11:49 PM Re: Skagit Bridge I-5 [Re: ]
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Bridge was built in 1955......lot's of traffic over it and lot's of water has gone past it.....traffic will be f'd for quite a long time,

Channels 4, 5, and 7 have cameras there...
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#840353 - 05/24/13 12:08 AM Re: Skagit Bridge I-5 [Re: ]
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truck hit the bridge immediately before collapse. apparently he's hired a pilot car, but it was only 200' in front of the truck. witness said the whip pole on the pilot car hit the bridge repeatedly, and the truck struck the girders in the right lane.

willy
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#840355 - 05/24/13 12:15 AM Re: Skagit Bridge I-5 [Re: landcruiserwilly]
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Hope everyone is ok.
That changes tomorrow's fishing plans. I'll be head south now.
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#840365 - 05/24/13 12:48 AM Re: Skagit Bridge I-5 [Re: landcruiserwilly]
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Originally Posted By: landcruiserwilly
truck hit the bridge immediately before collapse. apparently he's hired a pilot car, but it was only 200' in front of the truck. witness said the whip pole on the pilot car hit the bridge repeatedly, and the truck struck the girders in the right lane.

willy


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#840367 - 05/24/13 12:57 AM Re: Skagit Bridge I-5 [Re: eyeFISH]
Coho Offline
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Registered: 03/09/99
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Loc: Muk
There are truck inspections both north and south - if "open" how would DOT let that through

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#840369 - 05/24/13 12:59 AM Re: Skagit Bridge I-5 [Re: Coho]
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one channel said that the bridge had work done on it like 3 weeks ago.... why is the rest intact, but just the front or rear section the one that got clipped? all the arches looked to be inline to me... did something settle in the ground? or where were they working?

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#840370 - 05/24/13 01:17 AM Re: Skagit Bridge I-5 [Re: ]
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Registered: 12/15/02
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Loc: Ahhhhh, damn dog!
I was on that bridge Tuesday!

Imagine how freaking scary that would be, driving along and having the bridge in front of you collapse..............

Pucker Time!

It appears everyone is OK.


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#840399 - 05/24/13 11:37 AM Re: Skagit Bridge I-5 [Re: ]
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Registered: 12/12/09
Posts: 272
Loc: Whatcom County
Originally Posted By: Steelspanker
Looks like a lot of rust under that paint. I wonder how much more is under other bridges' paint. Should a truck be able to take out that steel so easily?


That is primer, not rust.

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#840417 - 05/24/13 12:23 PM Re: Skagit Bridge I-5 [Re: ]
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#840433 - 05/24/13 03:01 PM Re: Skagit Bridge I-5 [Re: Paul Smenis]
GBL Offline
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Registered: 01/31/05
Posts: 1862
Loc: Yakutat
Sat in my sled right under that bridge many times fishing for Coho! Ne hole it looks like!

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#840444 - 05/24/13 03:59 PM Re: Skagit Bridge I-5 [Re: ]
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Registered: 10/26/09
Posts: 462
Loc: South Sound
Originally Posted By: Steelspanker
Looks like a lot of rust under that paint. I wonder how much more is under other bridges' paint. Should a truck be able to take out that steel so easily?


This bridge wasn't designed to handle localized failure, like it may have been today. It isn't that they couldn't design it that way back then, they just didn't. So, if that truck took out something significant, it could lead to a major failure, as appears to be the case. Kind of a house of cards if you will, take out one card, the whole things fails.

It looks to me like one of the cross members near the bank may have been the one that was hit, which braces the top chord of the truss. Without that brace the top chord could buckle. Looking at the photos that looks like what happened, but there was damage in the fall too. Most of the top chord is intact except at one of the joints closer to the end.

We'll find out soon enough. I feel pretty bad for anyone who had to cross that bridge as a regular part of life, there will be a lot of people sacrificing a lot of extra hours in their life detouring the bridge.

I find it a bit optimistic to hear the media and even DOT talking about a fix "within weeks", that just seems pretty crazy to me. There is so much work to be done in just a temporary repair, let alone something permanent. If that bridge is reopened by Labor Day I'll be impressed.

The Mississippi bridge failure was on a larger scale but it would be instructive to consider the timeline for that project when thinking about how soon we can expect the Skagit bridge to reopen.
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#840453 - 05/24/13 04:34 PM Re: Skagit Bridge I-5 [Re: TedR]
Natron
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the federal gov is sending 1 million in immeadiate assistance, a quick option to get it up and running somewhat is to use a Bailey Bridge, which is used by the US Military over seas to cross rivers and canals and such...

http://www.baileybridge.com/


heres a pic of the chopper out of NAS Whidbey that arrived and snatched 2 of the 3 from the water


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#840454 - 05/24/13 05:02 PM Re: Skagit Bridge I-5 [Re: ]
Coho Offline
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Registered: 03/09/99
Posts: 2566
Loc: Muk
the dude in the car saved his hockey gear!! Right on

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