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#841784 - 06/01/13 06:55 AM "Upside" to Climate Change?
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#841811 - 06/01/13 07:49 PM Re: "Upside" to Climate Change? [Re: ]
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Think jet exhaust, Hank.

Never mentioned......wonder why. wink
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#841823 - 06/01/13 11:46 PM Re: "Upside" to Climate Change? [Re: ParaLeaks]
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So who's going to be last to be the last dumbfuk global warming denier?
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#841824 - 06/02/13 12:00 AM Re: "Upside" to Climate Change? [Re: Illahee]
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"Climate Change".......no longer global warming.....hello?
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#841859 - 06/02/13 10:47 AM Re: "Upside" to Climate Change? [Re: ParaLeaks]
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I think I mentioned in another thread that there are winners and losers in this round of climate change wink. Here's where the research began through the FACE experiment in the eastern deciduous forest: http://climatechangescience.ornl.gov/content/free-air-co2-enrichment-face-experiment.
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#841879 - 06/02/13 02:16 PM Re: "Upside" to Climate Change? [Re: ]
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The GAO found that, in the United States, aviation emissions accounted for about three percent of the greenhouse gases and other emissions that contribute to the global warming phenomenon. While this percentage is small in relative terms -- other transportation sources contribute 23 percent, and other industrial emissions account for 41 percent -- aviation emissions are potentially significant for a number of reasons:

Jet aircraft emissions are deposited directly into the upper atmosphere and some of them have a greater warming effect than gases emitted closer to the surface, such as automobile exhaust.
The primary gas emitted by jet aircraft engines is carbon dioxide, which can survive in the atmosphere up to 100 years.
Carbon dioxide, combined with other exhaust gases and particulates emitted from jet engines, could have two to four times as great an impact on the atmosphere as carbon dioxide emissions alone.
The growing demand for jet air service is likely to generate more emissions that cannot be offset by reductions achieved through technological improvements alone.
The report recommended further research into the impact of jet exhaust on the global atmosphere to help guide the development of new aircraft engine technology. It also called upon governments to reduce emissions through improved air traffic control and regulatory and economic incentives.


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#841889 - 06/02/13 04:21 PM Re: "Upside" to Climate Change? [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
It's clear we have no choice other than banning the use of jet aircraft for passenger travel. Let's go back to the use of turbo-prop aircraft to limit the damage to our planet.



We need people to burn the dinosaur fuel as fast a possible so we can get through this global warming thing quicker.
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#842002 - 06/03/13 05:08 PM Re: "Upside" to Climate Change? [Re: Excitable Bob]
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Forget about warming. Ocean acidification will doom us first.

If you take pure water with a pH of 7 and let it sit for 24 it will absorb CO2 from the atmosphere and become more acidic. The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is increasing and thus, so is the amount that water automatically acidifies.

I ran this experiment in a lab and it worked. Carbonic acid was formed and the water went down to I think 6.4 but this was several years ago so my number may be off.

The phenomena of water acidifying is easily provable and should be one of the scariest things on your mind.
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#842068 - 06/04/13 08:43 AM Re: "Upside" to Climate Change? [Re: Jason Beezuz]
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Interesting point, Jason. While I have no idea on the rate of absorbtion of CO2, it seems at first blush that exhausts from engines should be mufflered and exhausted above the surface?

edit: can't spell for crap this morning


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