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#848110 - 07/16/13 11:35 AM Re: Martin/Zimmerman Case [Re: ]
Salmo g. Offline
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Just heard on the radio this morning about another FL case last year, brought by the same prosecutor Angela Corey, of aggravated assault against a woman who fired her pistol in a warning shot at her estranged husband, who she had a no-contact order against, which he violated and then threatened to kill her. She feared for her life, fired one shot and was prepared to shoot him, but he turned and ran. Jury deliberated 12 minutes before finding her guilty, and because she committed A. assault with a firearm, she got 20 years w/o parole. Talk about life not being fair . . .

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#848111 - 07/16/13 11:50 AM Re: Martin/Zimmerman Case [Re: Salmo g.]
Todd Offline
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And...what race is that woman, Steve?

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#848113 - 07/16/13 12:03 PM Re: Martin/Zimmerman Case [Re: ]
Dogfish Offline
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If that second woman would have shot her ex husband, she whould have been aquitted.
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#848114 - 07/16/13 12:08 PM Re: Martin/Zimmerman Case [Re: Dogfish]
Todd Offline
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Originally Posted By: Dogfish
If that second woman would have shot her ex husband, she whould have been aquitted.


Yes she would have, and that's why the "Stand Your Ground" laws are so fuckin retarded.

She was chased, and retreated. She was threatened, and had been previously beaten. The man who was beating her testified that he had beat her, and every other woman he had been with.

She was cornered, and shot a warning shot into the air.

She was being attacked, she tried to retreat repeatedly, she shot a warning shot, no one was injured much less killed...and she got 20 years with no parole.

George Zimmerman prejudges Martin to be a "fuckin punk who always gets away with it", follows him, brings the confrontation to Martin in spite of being told to not do so by the 911 operator, and then shoots and kills him...and is a free man who will probably write a book called "Why I am such a big fuckin Pussy" and be a zillionaire.

If Zimmerman was black he'd be getting fitted for a set of orange jumpsuits right now, and if that woman was white she'd be getting the book deal.

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#848121 - 07/16/13 12:26 PM Re: Martin/Zimmerman Case [Re: Todd]
JTD Offline
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Originally Posted By: Todd
Originally Posted By: Dogfish
If that second woman would have shot her ex husband, she whould have been aquitted.


Yes she would have, and that's why the "Stand Your Ground" laws are so fuckin retarded.

She was chased, and retreated. She was threatened, and had been previously beaten. The man who was beating her testified that he had beat her, and every other woman he had been with.

She was cornered, and shot a warning shot into the air.

She was being attacked, she tried to retreat repeatedly, she shot a warning shot, no one was injured much less killed...and she got 20 years with no parole.

George Zimmerman prejudges Martin to be a "fuckin punk who always gets away with it", follows him, brings the confrontation to Martin in spite of being told to not do so by the 911 operator, and then shoots and kills him...and is a free man who will probably write a book called "Why I am such a big fuckin Pussy" and be a zillionaire.

If Zimmerman was black he'd be getting fitted for a set of orange jumpsuits right now, and if that woman was white she'd be getting the book deal.

Fish on...

Todd



20 years for a warning shot? Regardless of race or circumstance, that seems like a crazy sentence.
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#848129 - 07/16/13 01:01 PM Re: Martin/Zimmerman Case [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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And that's why the law is applied differently...the whole point of the Stand Your Ground laws is that you do not have to retreat...unless, apparently, you are a black woman.

Remember the guy who confronted burglars in his yard, ran inside to get his gun, came out and while chasing the burglars out of his yard shot one in the back?

He wasn't even charged, thanks to the Stand Your Ground law.

'Course, he was an old white man and the burglars were black...but that, of course, had nothing to do with it, not in this enlightened age.

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#848134 - 07/16/13 01:17 PM Re: Martin/Zimmerman Case [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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The OJ case, unfortunately, was an instance of trying to frame a guilty man and getting caught with your hand in the cookie jar. Everyone knows the deal with that one.

If he wasn't rich and famous he'd be rotting on death row right now.

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#848149 - 07/16/13 01:57 PM Re: Martin/Zimmerman Case [Re: ]
JTD Offline
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: JTD
Originally Posted By: Todd
Originally Posted By: Dogfish
If that second woman would have shot her ex husband, she whould have been aquitted.


Yes she would have, and that's why the "Stand Your Ground" laws are so fuckin retarded.

She was chased, and retreated. She was threatened, and had been previously beaten. The man who was beating her testified that he had beat her, and every other woman he had been with.

She was cornered, and shot a warning shot into the air.

She was being attacked, she tried to retreat repeatedly, she shot a warning shot, no one was injured much less killed...and she got 20 years with no parole.

George Zimmerman prejudges Martin to be a "fuckin punk who always gets away with it", follows him, brings the confrontation to Martin in spite of being told to not do so by the 911 operator, and then shoots and kills him...and is a free man who will probably write a book called "Why I am such a big fuckin Pussy" and be a zillionaire.

If Zimmerman was black he'd be getting fitted for a set of orange jumpsuits right now, and if that woman was white she'd be getting the book deal.

Fish on...

Todd



20 years for a warning shot? Regardless of race or circumstance, that seems like a crazy sentence.


In an effort to lower violent crime, the Florida legislature enacted mandatory minimum sentences. If you brandish a firearm you get 10 years. If you fire a shot it's mandatory 20 years. If you kill someone it's mandatory life.

The judge said the SYG defense didn't apply in her case because she left her house to get the gun out of her car and came back into the house instead of running away.





Off topic but it is too bad they don't apply that same sentencing structure to sex offenders. If a gun is a metaphor for a penis, "brandishing, shooting and killing" would be just as offensive. Forget rehab... just put them away for good.




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#848154 - 07/16/13 02:16 PM Re: Martin/Zimmerman Case [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: Todd
And that's why the law is applied differently...the whole point of the Stand Your Ground laws is that you do not have to retreat...unless, apparently, you are a black woman.

Fish on...

Todd

The whole point is she left her house and was safe, but she returned to the house after retrieving her gun.


Then what about the (white) man who went into his house, got his gun, and came back out and shot the fleeing burglar (black) in the back, and got the benefit of the Stand Your Ground law?

I know what they said in her case, and they are either wrong, or applying differently depending on whether or not you are black or white.

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#848164 - 07/16/13 02:36 PM Re: Martin/Zimmerman Case [Re: ]
Coho Offline
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Edited by Coho (07/16/13 02:41 PM)
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#848166 - 07/16/13 02:48 PM Re: Martin/Zimmerman Case [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Blacks accused of killing blacks...doesn't matter at all.

Blacks killing whites...you're going to jail.

Whites killing blacks...time for your book deal after acquittal.

Hank, anyone...anyone...claiming that SYG laws are applied equally across races is a damn fool.

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#848168 - 07/16/13 02:52 PM Re: Martin/Zimmerman Case [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Those statistics are based on the conviction rate, and not on anything else...and that's the entire point.

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#848173 - 07/16/13 03:15 PM Re: Martin/Zimmerman Case [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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There's no doubt that it's a poverty issue, not a race issue...but there is more to the fact that a higher percentage of black people are poor than just noting that "they're black".

Don't just look at relative percentage of blacks that commit crimes, or relative amount of crimes that are commited by blacks...look at the conviction rates between blacks and whites that are accused of the same or similar crimes.

The fact that blacks accused of the same crimes are more likely to be convicted is not a poverty or education problem...it's a race problem.

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#848188 - 07/16/13 04:22 PM Re: Martin/Zimmerman Case [Re: ]
*Nate*
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Aaron Hernandez- white/hispanic (Puerto Rican/Italian Irish)

Odin LLoyd- black


wheres the outrage?

why are there blacks, mexicans, and every other race saying to "Free Hernandez"...

doesnt make much sense does it?

the Newsom murders... 2 of the people are gonna get out here eventually and 1 of em doesnt make much sense...

Eric Boyd got 18 years... well, he didnt get charged with what the other ones did, but he was there, and that should count...

Vanessa Coleman, got 35 years, for these charges:

Coleman was indicted on 12 counts of felony murder growing out of the rape, robbery, kidnapping, and theft of Christian and Newsom, 1 count of premeditated murder (of Christian only), 1 count of especially aggravated robbery (of Newsom only), 4 counts of especially aggravated kidnapping, 20 counts of aggravated rape, and 2 counts of theft.


12 counts of murder, 20 counts of rape, plus the others, and got 35 years... makes alot of sense...

oh yeah, Channon and Christopher where white, and the attackers were black...



Christian and Newsom were leaving an apartment together to go to a friend's party when they were abducted from the apartment complex parking lot.
Christian's parents found her abandoned Toyota 4-Runner two blocks away from the Chipman Street house the following Monday with the help of her mobile phone provider. An envelope recovered from the vehicle yielded fingerprint evidence that led police to Lemaricus Davidson and 2316 Chipman Street. When police went to the address on Tuesday, January 9, they found the house unoccupied and Christian's body in a bin in the kitchen.
According to the testimony of the Knox County Acting Medical Examiner Dr. Darinka Mileusnic-Polchan at the subsequent trial of Eric Boyd, Newsom was repeatedly sodomized with an object and then blindfolded, gagged, arms and feet bound and his head covered. Barefoot, he was dragged outside the house to a set of nearby railroad tracks. He was sexually mutilated, shot in the back of his head, neck and back and his body was then set on fire.
According to the testimony of the medical examiner, Channon's death came after hours of torture, having suffered injuries to her vagina, anus and mouth. She was raped with an unidentified object and beaten in the head. It was also reported that her body was scrubbed with bleach which was also poured down her throat, in an attempt by her attackers to remove DNA evidence, while Channon was still alive. She was then bound with curtains and strips of bedding, her face covered with a bin liner and her body stashed within five large bin bags, before being placed inside a residential waste disposal unit and covered with sheets. The medical examiner said there was evidence that Channon slowly suffocated to death.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom#Crime

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#848197 - 07/16/13 04:46 PM Re: Martin/Zimmerman Case [Re: ]
Dave Vedder Offline
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Registered: 10/09/02
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Originally Posted By: FishPrince
[quote=Hankster]There is not a white equivalent of Al Sharpton.


Perhaps your dumbest post ever!!! There are lots! How about the "pastor" at the Westboro Church? I am going fishing or I could list lots more.



Edited by Dave Vedder (07/16/13 04:46 PM)
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#848199 - 07/16/13 04:51 PM Re: Martin/Zimmerman Case [Re: ]
*Nate*
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wheres the outrage for Marley Lion...

a 17 year old kid, that was driving home from a party, got lost, pulled into a parking lot to get it sorted out, was approached by a 30 year old black man, and had his head blown off....

4 months after Trayvon....

why didnt we hear about it? why didnt the president say anything about it? why arent people protesting for this kid that was lost, doing nothing wrong, and was shot point blank by a man for no reason at all whatsoever?

[video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgMOuc_otL8[/video]


im not even going to post a website, search Marley Lion, and look for yourself... im not about to post any site for that matter that one can say left wing, right wing, stupid news, ect... search for yourself...

but wheres the outrage? protests for justice? im pretty sure i dont need to answer that...

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#848202 - 07/16/13 04:58 PM Re: Martin/Zimmerman Case [Re: ]
*Nate*
Unregistered


really, what is the difference?




FP, the FBI then backed Rick Ross along with the CIA, and then nailed him and gave him life for trying to buy 100 keys of coke.... he served 20 and is out now... oh yeah, he was making 1-3 million dollars a DAY... so he gets life for selling drugs, his involvement in the Iran/Contra Scandal, and gets life....

meanwhile, Vanessa Coleman got 35 years for 12 counts of felony murder, and 20 counts of aggrivated rape...

whose crime is worse?

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#848207 - 07/16/13 05:16 PM Re: Martin/Zimmerman Case [Re: ]
*Nate*
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this is a wonderful website... their mothers must be proud to call them sons...

"Marley had just graduated from a prestigious magnet high school and surely had an American history course.
"Surely this budding racial terrorist learned of the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade (TAST) and the near century of open racial terrorism ours endured at the hands of his in the post TAST era. So this drinker of his fore-fathers' wines also knew of and accepted his kinds' tyrannical refusal to make restitution for TAST crimes.
"Infact, this budding white supremacist was ready to go in the direction of the majority of America's self deluded whites and live his piggish life voting in American elections as a Democrat or a Republican and paying race based taxes that only perpetuate the system of institutionalization against our people.

http://nationalblackfootsoldiernetwork.b...est-update.html




why is it always blamed on whites when racism comes up in this country? if one cannot do it, than the other cannot as well, thats called EQUALITY, the same thing that everyone wants.... so what gives?

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#848210 - 07/16/13 05:18 PM Re: Martin/Zimmerman Case [Re: ]
Jason Beezuz Offline
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Hankster and Nate are gang banging this thread with garbage just like the rest of the Darkside......

That fat hoe puking above is probably getting them all horned up so they will be back with more.
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#848215 - 07/16/13 05:25 PM Re: Martin/Zimmerman Case [Re: Jason Beezuz]
*Nate*
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Originally Posted By: Jason Beezy
Hankster and Nate are gang banging this thread with garbage just like the rest of the Darkside......

That fat hoe puking above is probably getting them all horned up so they will be back with more.


i doubt you of all people should be talking ANYTHING about ANY woman... you need to find one that will put up with your sh!tty attitude first and foremost... so have fun with that one...


and why is it garbage? its all TRUE... if its garbage, dont read it, stay close minded and whatnot, you have that choice as an American...

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