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#850642 - 08/02/13 05:17 PM Re: "It's Classified" [Re: Dave Vedder]
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Definition of FASCISM
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often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
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: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality — J. W. Aldridge>
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#850650 - 08/02/13 05:34 PM Re: "It's Classified" [Re: ]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Originally Posted By: Rev.
Dan S. I don't really understand how this thread morphed, but if you really want to know, here you are. I ran my own small business for 35 years, and now watching big business has become somewhat of a (hobby).


So you have no idea if the Obama administration has brought about any changes in the way a business operates - other than what you hear from the media?

I can tell you right now that I've seen NO significant change.

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#850655 - 08/02/13 05:51 PM Re: "It's Classified" [Re: Dan S.]
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If it weren't for the media I wouldn't know that Barrack Obama is the president. Tell me Dan, is he?
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#850660 - 08/02/13 06:01 PM Re: "It's Classified" [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: FishPrince
Right wing vs Left wing is an arbitrary distinction crafted to limit the range of acceptable opinion, you can have an authoritarian right wing or an authoritarian left wing government. Instead of going right and left back and forth on the authoritarian communitarian axis, why not go up towards individual liberty instead?



I tend to agree. I have often observed that in some areas the far left and the far right converge. I see this with freedom of speech and issues related to search and seizure. Unfortunately both American parties are willing to ignore their core principles to pander to their base.
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#850669 - 08/02/13 06:39 PM Re: "It's Classified" [Re: Dave Vedder]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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What are the additional regulations, Hank?
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#850671 - 08/02/13 06:42 PM Re: "It's Classified" [Re: Dave Vedder]
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Originally Posted By: Dave Vedder
Originally Posted By: FishPrince
Right wing vs Left wing is an arbitrary distinction crafted to limit the range of acceptable opinion, you can have an authoritarian right wing or an authoritarian left wing government. Instead of going right and left back and forth on the authoritarian communitarian axis, why not go up towards individual liberty instead?



I tend to agree. I have often observed that in some areas the far left and the far right converge. I see this with freedom of speech and issues related to search and seizure. Unfortunately both American parties are willing to ignore their core principles to pander to their base.


Bingo........on both accounts.

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#851008 - 08/05/13 07:34 PM Re: "It's Classified" [Re: ]
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Hank posted this c & p: ". . . It is totalitarian in that it views everything as political and holds that any action by the state is justified to achieve the common good. It takes responsibility for all aspects of life, including our health and well-being and seeks to impose uniformity of thought and action, whether by force or through regulation and social pressure. Everything, including the economy and religion, must be aligned with its objectives. Any rival identity is part of the "problem" and therefore defined as the enemy."

Hank, you just defined Bush/Cheney/Rove. Were they your favorite facists?

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#851099 - 08/06/13 03:01 PM Re: "It's Classified" [Re: ]
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Whatsa' matter Hank, don't you remember. Remember both Bush and Rove were quoted as saying "everything is political" and "either you're with us or against us." Pure good ole fashion totalitarianism/fascism.

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