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#867465 - 11/06/13 04:31 PM Incognito
Sol Duc Offline
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What a weird story....sounds like this came down from the coaches to toughen this puzzy up.
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#867469 - 11/06/13 04:40 PM Re: Incognito [Re: ]
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That's what you do when you're a bust in the NFL. rofl
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#867478 - 11/06/13 05:18 PM Re: Incognito [Re: ]
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I get rookie hazing to some extent. as far as having to carry bags, pay for meals and what not but this is strait up weird.....
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#867487 - 11/06/13 06:50 PM Re: Incognito [Re: big moby]
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By the time we hear about these things, they have gone real bad.
The abuse/oppression was in its second year, it would be safe to say.

Possible outcome...

1) Incognito would be required to publicly apologize to Martin and return all extorted funds to Martin.

2) Incognito is placed on suspension from the NFL for a specific amount of time without pay.
After the suspension period he would be allowed to enter the free agent draft.

3) Martin probably fares worse in this...don't know if he will ever play another down in a Miami uniform.
Hopefully he will find work somewhere.
Some team in dire straits on the offensive line might take a chance with Incognito or he could be an untouchable, depending on how this plays out.

4) If the offensive line coach and/or the OC are found to have known about this, their heads will probably roll.
Don't think that it would go beyond the OC.


Too bad Martin didn't drop the bar on the punk when he was on the bench and pin him by the Adam's Apple.
Then have a little discussion.

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#867489 - 11/06/13 06:55 PM Re: Incognito [Re: Direct-Drive]
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If that is of acceptable culture in their locker room it explains a lot about the Dolphins not being very good for quite some time now...
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#867491 - 11/06/13 07:08 PM Re: Incognito [Re: ]
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Martin has a Stanford education, and his parents are both Harvard graduates...I doubt lack of smarts is going to be an issue for him, except for dealing with people seriously lacking smarts like Incognito.

Fish on...

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#867495 - 11/06/13 07:16 PM Re: Incognito [Re: Todd]
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Just another model citizen...

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#867502 - 11/06/13 07:41 PM Re: Incognito [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
Martin has a Stanford education, and his parents are both Harvard graduates...I doubt lack of smarts is going to be an issue for him, except for dealing with people seriously lacking smarts like Incognito.

Fish on...

Todd


it all makes sense now... rofl

Originally Posted By: _Nate_
no Jake, im the product of my father, who was a product of his father, a professor at Harvard...


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#867504 - 11/06/13 08:01 PM Re: Incognito [Re: ]
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Several teammates are saying they were best friends... cry
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#867506 - 11/06/13 08:05 PM Re: Incognito [Re: Sol Duc]
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And Martin was laughing about the voice mail last week.
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#867508 - 11/06/13 08:13 PM Re: Incognito [Re: Sol Duc]
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at first, i saw Todd with that hat he was wearing, and thought he was Mike Carey.

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#867509 - 11/06/13 08:15 PM Re: Incognito [Re: cruzn99]
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I wasn't aware that this voicemail was left last April. wink
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#867511 - 11/06/13 08:17 PM Re: Incognito [Re: Sol Duc]
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Besides 99% of Stanford players are soft.... stir
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#867571 - 11/07/13 02:49 AM Re: Incognito [Re: Sol Duc]
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Originally Posted By: Sol Duc
Besides 99% of Stanford players are soft.... stir

We'll see how soft they are tonight.


In other news....
Incognito will never wear a Dolphins uniform again.
It gets worse...
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/993886...ichie-incognito

This is kind of comical in a way.
Imagine there's a dispute between two employees at a large company.
One of the employees goes to HR and complains.
Head of HR tells employee, just go punch him in the mouth.
rofl


Dolphins are imploding.
Heads will be rolling.
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#867586 - 11/07/13 10:04 AM Re: Incognito [Re: Direct-Drive]
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Word is martins mom is negotiating with the fins. She has proposed a play date for incognito and Martin . They plan to patch things up over peanut butter sandwiches and juice boxes . The whole thing started because Martin did not get a throphy and a certificate of accomplishment for completing training camp. Brought to you by our liberal education system where kids are taught everyone is a victim.


Edited by Tom Joad (11/07/13 10:06 AM)
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#867591 - 11/07/13 10:19 AM Re: Incognito [Re: Us and Them]
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If 99% of the Stanford players are soft what does that make the Huskies and Cougs? And most of the rest of the teams they play.

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#867592 - 11/07/13 10:23 AM Re: Incognito [Re: Carcassman]
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Originally Posted By: Carcassman
If 99% of the Stanford players are soft what does that make the Huskies and Cougs? And most of the rest of the teams they play.

He's just trying to pull Hank's chain for another "discussion".

Stanford's one of the top teams in the country.
No one can deny that.
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#867607 - 11/07/13 12:31 PM Re: Incognito [Re: Direct-Drive]
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Originally Posted By: Direct-Drive
Originally Posted By: Carcassman
If 99% of the Stanford players are soft what does that make the Huskies and Cougs? And most of the rest of the teams they play.

He's just trying to pull Hank's chain for another "discussion".

Stanford's one of the top teams in the country.
No one can deny that.


True. and Oregon is going to kick their a$$ tonight!! thumbs
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#867676 - 11/07/13 04:05 PM Re: Incognito [Re: big moby]
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Martin got demoted from LT to RT two weeks ago...his little pussee is sore because he can't cut the mustard in the NFL. I'm sure he will sign a retainer with Gloria Allred and try to sue RI/dullfins. Pathethic little beetch! cryriver
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#867678 - 11/07/13 04:12 PM Re: Incognito [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
Martin has a Stanford education, and his parents are both Harvard graduates...I doubt lack of smarts is going to be an issue for him, except for dealing with people seriously lacking smarts like Incognito.

Fish on...

Todd

Translation: Two fruit loop libs Parents pussified this Large Man into a milk toast little twat...that cant stand up for himself. Liberals and progressives have pretty much ruined this once great country. Thank God Retodd has no kids.
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#867679 - 11/07/13 04:15 PM Re: Incognito [Re: Sol Duc]
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Sol Dunce, I'm impressed that you can still type with your head seven feet up your ass.

Fish on...

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#867680 - 11/07/13 04:19 PM Re: Incognito [Re: Todd]
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Lensectomy, I think it's called.
They go in and remove the belly button and implant a lens.
That way when yer head is up yer ass you can still see out.




smile
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#867682 - 11/07/13 04:22 PM Re: Incognito [Re: big moby]
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Originally Posted By: big moby
Originally Posted By: Direct-Drive
Originally Posted By: Carcassman
If 99% of the Stanford players are soft what does that make the Huskies and Cougs? And most of the rest of the teams they play.

He's just trying to pull Hank's chain for another "discussion".

Stanford's one of the top teams in the country.
No one can deny that.


True. and Oregon is going to kick their a$$ tonight!! thumbs

Got that right! A big ol' mud hole.....LOL
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#867683 - 11/07/13 04:27 PM Re: Incognito [Re: ]
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quick someone call me the n word, threaten to c*m in my mouth and to slap my momma!


I'm gonna be rich I tell ya, rich! thumbs


course if you actually slap my momma I'm going to be hanging out with Aaron Hernandez cool
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#867684 - 11/07/13 04:37 PM Re: Incognito [Re: Sol Duc]
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From someone who was there.


Former Dolphins lineman Lydon Murtha explains Jonathan Martin events, defends Richie Incognito
By Anwar S. Richardson | Shutdown Corner – 3 hours ago

The line of Miami Dolphins players willing to stand by embattled guard Richie Incognito is so long, even former Dolphins are now defending his alleged harassment of Jonathan Martin.
Offensive lineman Lydon Murtha was a Dolphin from 2009 until he was released in 2012. Because of his familiarity with both men at the center of the controversy, Murtha wrote an explanatory article on MMQB.SI.com, offering his perception of the events that have been reported and led to Incognito being suspended from the team for allegedly hazing and harassing Martin.

Murtha depicts Martin as a loner who never opened up to players on the team, and one who overreacted to normal occurrences within Miami’s locker room. He said coaches told leaders on the team to bring Martin "out of his shell," and that is when issues started to occur.

“That’s where Incognito ran into a problem,” Murtha wrote for MMQB. “Personally, I know when a guy can’t handle razzing. You can tell that some guys just aren’t built for it. Incognito doesn’t have that filter. He was the jokester on the team, and he joked with everybody from players to coaches. That voicemail he sent came from a place of humor, but where he really screwed up was using the N-word. That, I cannot condone, and it’s probably the biggest reason he’s not with the team right now. Odd thing is, I’ve heard Incognito call Martin the same thing to his face in meetings and all Martin did was laugh. Many more worse things were said about others in the room from all different parties. It’s an Animal House. Now Incognito’s being slandered as a racist and a bigot, and unfortunately that’s never going to be wiped clean because of all the wrong he’s done people in his past. But if you really know who Richie is, he’s a really good, kind man and far from a racist.”
Murtha also offered an explanation for the accusations that Martin was forced to pay for a Las Vegas trip that he did not want to attend, and eventually skipped.

“Every year, as tradition, the offensive line goes on a big Vegas trip,” Mutha said. “Everything is paid for in advance, from hotels to a private jet to show tickets. Martin originally verbally committed to the trip, then later backed out after everything was booked. Now, if you can’t go because of an emergency then it’s okay, but to say you’re going and then decide you don’t want to spend the money later? Everything was paid for, and then when it was time to pay up he didn’t want to go anymore. You don’t do that to your brothers. The veterans who paid for it, including Incognito and others, asked for Martin’s share, and he gave it to them. End of story.”

In addition, Murtha said Martin overreacted to a cafeteria prank, which involved the lineman down at a table and everyone else getting up and leaving.
“The silliest part of this story, to me, is the incident at the cafeteria, in which Martin was supposed to have been hazed when everyone got up from their seats as he sat down. Whoever leaked that story failed to share that getting up from a packed lunch table when one lineman sits down is a running gag that has been around for years. It happened to me more than once, and it happened to Martin because guys on the team say he was overcoming an illness. Just like when a guy is hurt, the joke is, I don’t want to sit with you, you’ve got the bug. Perhaps for Martin it was the straw that broke the camel’s back, but when Incognito reached him after he stormed out, Martin told him the departure had nothing to do with Incognito. Martin said it was something else. Then the media onslaught began.”

Murtha’s opinions are interesting but there is another curious aspect to this story. Martin still has not given his side.

Nearly everybody has voiced their opinion on these alleged incidents, but Martin has not said a word. Murtha said Martin's release of Incognito’s voice mail to the media broke locker room code, and believes it will be hard for any player to trust him again. It is hard to argue against that theory.
However, at some point Martin needs to give his version of the story. If not, Martin's critics will continue to use his silence as proof that he was the real problem, not Incognito.
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#867686 - 11/07/13 05:07 PM Re: Incognito [Re: Sol Duc]
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Originally Posted By: Sol Duc
quick someone call me the n word, threaten to c*m in my mouth and to slap my momma!


I'm gonna be rich I tell ya, rich! thumbs


course if you actually slap my momma I'm going to be hanging out with Aaron Hernandez cool


Its pretty lame to poach another guys comments from a different website.

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#867690 - 11/07/13 05:19 PM Re: Incognito [Re: SundayMoney]
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This whole thing is a joke and big full grown men should stand up for them selfs @ this level of play...period. Incognito is a punk and Martin is a pussy.So there ya have it.Moving on.................buncha over paid bitches anyway's.Good luck,
SZ

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#867707 - 11/07/13 07:25 PM Re: Incognito [Re: SundayMoney]
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Originally Posted By: SundayMoney
Originally Posted By: Sol Duc
quick someone call me the n word, threaten to c*m in my mouth and to slap my momma!


I'm gonna be rich I tell ya, rich! thumbs


course if you actually slap my momma I'm going to be hanging out with Aaron Hernandez cool


Its pretty lame to poach another guys comments from a different website.


Considering Sol Dunce usually sounds about as smart as a rust bucket full of dog dicks I am not surprised that he would plagarize someone else's writing, nor an I surprised that he would choose to quote someone who is as ubelievably as stupid as he is.

Way to go.

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#867852 - 11/08/13 12:48 AM Re: Incognito [Re: ]
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Harbaugh supports friend Martin, Harbaugh supports Martin
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#867941 - 11/08/13 02:51 PM Re: Incognito [Re: Steelheadman]
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Only because Martin was his shower buddy before Katcrapper learned how to drop the soap.Good luck,
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#867949 - 11/08/13 03:24 PM Re: Incognito [Re: Steelheadman]
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Originally Posted By: Steelheadman
Harbaugh supports friend Martin, Harbaugh supports Martin

Of course he does..as he should.
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#868115 - 11/09/13 09:15 AM Re: Incognito [Re: Sol Duc]
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Incognito is a douche. Anyone that has followed the NFL can see that. Also with two lawyer parents, I highly doubt Martin can fight so he took this route. Not cool but Incognito needs to get his.

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#868138 - 11/09/13 01:25 PM Re: Incognito [Re: RB3]
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This is so predictable, Martin is a homo and was teased...blah, blah, blah.....just more gay agenda to shove down America's mouth...NFL will settle for large amount....Cognito will still be a jerk and Martin will still be a pussee....the end. wink Boook it.
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#868149 - 11/09/13 01:56 PM Re: Incognito [Re: Sol Duc]
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None of us know the particulars of this story but are willing to bash for some reason or another. Pretty f'n pathetic. I'm not in a position to tell someone else how they should handle their situation because I'm not the one who has to live it.

Kinda sad that you think it's ok to be tossing out labels at people you know nothing about.
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#868165 - 11/09/13 03:14 PM Re: Incognito [Re: wntrrn]
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What's pathetic is you not controlling your booze and falling face first into a mud puddle.... hello


Edited by Sol Duc (11/09/13 03:15 PM)
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#868201 - 11/09/13 07:43 PM Re: Incognito [Re: Sol Duc]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Originally Posted By: Sol Dicksmoker
.just more gay agenda to shove down America's mouth.


I'm sure you've had plenty of gay "agenda" shoved down your mouth. rofl
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#868206 - 11/09/13 07:53 PM Re: Incognito [Re: Dan S.]
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9.2 Well played Sir! grin
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#868209 - 11/09/13 08:06 PM Re: Incognito [Re: Dan S.]
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Originally Posted By: Dan S.
Originally Posted By: Sol Dicksmoker
.just more gay agenda to shove down America's mouth.


I'm sure you've had plenty of gay "agenda" shoved down your mouth. rofl

That's goddam funny right there.
rofl

Maybe there's hope for this thread.

Nah, hopeless.
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#868210 - 11/09/13 08:08 PM Re: Incognito [Re: Sol Duc]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Originally Posted By: Sol Duc
9.2 Well played Sir! grin


I just couldn't resist that one - it was sitting on a tee.

smile wink
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#868212 - 11/09/13 08:16 PM Re: Incognito [Re: Dan S.]
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You don't need a tee....you're the S.O.Z grin
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#868213 - 11/09/13 08:19 PM Re: Incognito [Re: Sol Duc]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
I'll be here all week....................


smile
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I said "baby, what's the goin' price?" She told me to go to hell.

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#868214 - 11/09/13 08:21 PM Re: Incognito [Re: Sol Duc]
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Originally Posted By: Sol Duc
What's pathetic is you not controlling your booze and falling face first into a mud puddle.... hello


You do believe everything you read on the internet.

Sober 2+ years! Live and learn.
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#868216 - 11/09/13 08:29 PM Re: Incognito [Re: wntrrn]
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Just counter punching...congrats on your sobriety, and I mean that. thumbs
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#868222 - 11/09/13 08:55 PM Re: Incognito [Re: Sol Duc]
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Thanks. It's been the best 2 years of my life.

I was pretty lucky. 20 years of being a hard core maintenance drinker and didn't lose it all before I stopped drinking. No DUI's, didn't kill anyone, didn't run my business into the ground, and didn't drink myself to death. If I hadn't stopped, I wouldn't be here right now. May have embarrassed myself a time or two but that's something I can live with.
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#868329 - 11/10/13 02:04 AM Re: Incognito [Re: wntrrn]
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Sincere congrats wintrrn! I mean it, that is something to be proud of. and thank you, as I just saw a drunk driver today nearly kill his own kid as he sped off the road and into a ditch... scary stuff.

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