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#870853 - 11/20/13 10:08 PM Re: Welcome to the Skokomish... [Re: ]
Joe Merlot Offline
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Registered: 01/04/10
Posts: 171
Loc: Gorky Park
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#870872 - 11/20/13 10:40 PM Re: Welcome to the Skokomish... [Re: Joe Merlot]
TanTastic84 Offline
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Registered: 10/21/11
Posts: 176
Loc: Seattle, WA
Economics is one thing, but we're supposed to be helping the salmon species survive for generations. If we keep doing things like this to a resource which is by and large endangered, we're not going to have anything left.

The point isn't about what an eye sore this is. It's about the complete disrespect of a wild resource for profit. Look at any fish stocks in the ocean. We've decimated them. And if these sorts of practices continue we're going to have nothing left. Just imagine if this was a whale! It would make national news! If the Indians or commercial fisheries had to answer for things like this, they would become more and more rare. So why not report it to local news? Give it a shot. Hell, Get Jesse! These sorts of interest stories are what the investigators live for!

It's a damned shame and it should make us all sick. Tribal and commercial alike.

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#870878 - 11/20/13 10:48 PM Re: Welcome to the Skokomish... [Re: TanTastic84]
NickD90 Offline
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Registered: 10/26/10
Posts: 7204
Loc: Snohomish, WA
Tan - it won't get air time. You can report it, but it won't go anywhere. It must really tear the bleeding heart libs in Seattle apart with the decision not too. Racist news or save the environment?

But Joe's video gave me an idea! Who wants to make a home video and get Youtube famous? I'm in and I'll even play the damn Indian, which instead will be a colonial white man.
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#870884 - 11/20/13 10:54 PM Re: Welcome to the Skokomish... [Re: Sky-Guy]
Salman Offline
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Registered: 03/07/12
Posts: 781
Originally Posted By: Sky-Guy
Have a nice day...


These fish were all stripped for eggs and left to rot. mad
I didnt take this picture, I lifted the pic off a facebook friend Ray G for use here.


Work of a worthless fukin methhead. (2013)
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#870887 - 11/20/13 11:06 PM Re: Welcome to the Skokomish... [Re: Salman]
RB3 Offline
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Registered: 08/24/10
Posts: 1335
I saw two fresh needles at the launch on the Skok. True story.

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#870894 - 11/20/13 11:33 PM Re: Welcome to the Skokomish... [Re: RB3]
Keta Offline
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Registered: 03/05/00
Posts: 1083
Roe have $ value carcass has none. Free market capitalism at it's finest. What's the problem?

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#870895 - 11/20/13 11:37 PM Re: Welcome to the Skokomish... [Re: Keta]
NickD90 Offline
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Loc: Snohomish, WA
Tell that to the hungry, homeless guy. Just because you can't sell it doesn't mean you can't do something good with it.


Edited by NickD90 (11/20/13 11:39 PM)
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#870896 - 11/20/13 11:41 PM Re: Welcome to the Skokomish... [Re: NickD90]
ColeyG Offline
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Registered: 02/08/07
Posts: 3076
Loc: AK
Waste is wrong. It's a simple concept.
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#870898 - 11/20/13 11:44 PM Re: Welcome to the Skokomish... [Re: NickD90]
RobertF
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Originally Posted By: NickD90
Tell that to the hungry, homeless guy. Just because you can't sell it doesn't mean you can't do something good with it.


My point exactly

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#870901 - 11/21/13 12:10 AM Re: Welcome to the Skokomish... [Re: Keta]
Salman Offline
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Registered: 03/07/12
Posts: 781
Originally Posted By: Keta
Roe have $ value carcass has none. Free market capitalism at it's finest. What's the problem?


The problem is people breaking the law.
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#870903 - 11/21/13 12:20 AM Re: Welcome to the Skokomish... [Re: NickD90]
Keta Offline
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Registered: 03/05/00
Posts: 1083
Originally Posted By: NickD90
Tell that to the hungry, homeless guy. Just because you can't sell it doesn't mean you can't do something good with it.


No one is willing to pay the cost of collecting and transporting these carcases to give away to those homeless and hungry guys.

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#870904 - 11/21/13 12:21 AM Re: Welcome to the Skokomish... [Re: Salman]
Carcassman Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 7593
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
What law? If it was Tribal guys there may not be a tribal law against that.

It is their rez to be managed as they wish. Since they are the leading conservationists whatever they do with natural resources is done with the long-range future in view.

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#870905 - 11/21/13 12:24 AM Re: Welcome to the Skokomish... [Re: Carcassman]
Salman Offline
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Registered: 03/07/12
Posts: 781
Maybe the feds will get involved.
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#870908 - 11/21/13 12:45 AM Re: Welcome to the Skokomish... [Re: Salman]
Keta Offline
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Registered: 03/05/00
Posts: 1083
Originally Posted By: Salman
Maybe the feds will get involved.


The feds don't give a [Bleeeeep!]. There are massive roe stripping fisheries in Alaska and Washington that are legal.

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#870909 - 11/21/13 12:46 AM Re: Welcome to the Skokomish... [Re: Keta]
Big_Daddy
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I don't see any of those fish ripped open.....Is it just me?

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#870910 - 11/21/13 01:22 AM Re: Welcome to the Skokomish... [Re: ]
Dave Vedder Offline
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Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
I see no sign these fish have been gutted. It would be nice to know the true story here. I wonder if we ever will?


Edited by Dave Vedder (11/21/13 01:24 AM)
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#870911 - 11/21/13 01:25 AM Re: Welcome to the Skokomish... [Re: ]
YBD
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Originally Posted By: Big_Daddy
I don't see any of those fish ripped open.....Is it just me?



Lots of dead bucks left for nothing. You can see a few fish with small incisions.

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#870912 - 11/21/13 01:31 AM Re: Welcome to the Skokomish... [Re: ]
_Nate_
Unregistered


damn, your eyesight is good... incisions and gender determination from a picture that looks like several of my moon photos...

damn your good...

a few years back there was piles of Pinks just off of Canyon and 176th out here, eggs gone, pile of fish... and by pile, i mean close to 2k pounds likely...

im starting to realize, there is nothing we can do, but do right by yourself... unless you teach them young, they will never get, or respect, the meaning of fishing, and what truely magnificent creatures they are....

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#870928 - 11/21/13 09:52 AM Re: Welcome to the Skokomish... [Re: Keta]
milt roe Offline
Spawner

Registered: 01/22/06
Posts: 917
Loc: tacoma
Next high water they will all be well distributed downstream. Not going to be a fungal matt or other ecological tragedy there. If the carcasses had value, they would have sold them and the nutrients carried away from the system. Would that have been better?

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#870930 - 11/21/13 10:19 AM Re: Welcome to the Skokomish... [Re: milt roe]
Carcassman Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 7593
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
When you see streams where salmon escapement is at a more ecologically rather than economically appropriate level it looks like that picture.

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