and some of the people all the time, but you can not fool all the people all of the time." Abraham Lincoln

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/12/04/obama-harvard-poll-millenials/3868629/

Ya, my kids and all their friends in that demographic want single payer health care and think Obama sold out to corporate America and is too far to the right.

That's why the right wingers have no alternative to the ACA...the ACA was the right wing alternative to single payer, so now they've got nothing.

Well, nothing but whining, and whiners.

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Todd

Infuckingdeed.

Pretty tricky move for a "socialist".

It's that same way he hides his anti-Capitalism behind an exploding stock market, higher corporate profits, and higher incomes.

He's pretty tricky for a Socialist Kenyan Nigerian Marxist.

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Todd

Lol. So true.

If we had a Republican in the presidency and the same economic numbers they would be one of the greatest presidents ever according to the repooplicans.

It isn't what you accomplish, it is what party you are affiliated with.

Except if we had a Republican in office we would have lower corporate profits, less income, and a lower stock market, and a slower economy.

Otherwise, exactly the same. Just ask Hank, he votes Republican because they are "better for the economy"...LOL!

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Todd

Corporate profits are up because business are not hiring and hoarding cash forcing the avg worker to do more . How is that a dem value? If the republicans had let the bankers off Scott free and rewarded them with free money and regulations that allow them to gamble with deposits the left would be enraged beyond belief. If the re pubs had purchased a trillions in bonds to make companies and the 1% even wealthier what would the dens response be. If the republicans had run on a platform of rebuilding the middle class and instead took a big steaming diarrhea on their heads what would the dens say. It would be hard to figure out which president has done more for Wall Street and less for the middle class than Obama. Where is the outrage? Obama care was designed to punish higher wage earners in favor of lower wage earners. It has achieved the opposite for everyone but the lowest 7% on the economy.

This country is in the shitter and on its way out because the left accepts anything done under the democratic banner and the right does the same. If anyone believes for one second that things are going well and will all work out in the end with this political system and a such a stupid populace they are fools.

It's not a "value"...it's exactly what happens every time there is a Democrat in office.

"Holding cash" doens't make profits go up, dumbass..."holding cash" means you don't spend your profits.

Just like Hank, if you are voting for the GOP because it is "better for the economy" then you are a 100% dumshit, not to mention completely wrong.

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Todd

Same store sales are where for every company you claim to have higher profits. Their profits are higher because expenses are lower. If expenses are lower you are sitting on cash.

The value of your dollar in terms of spending power has gone down 39% since 2000. Explain how that is a benefit to the middle class? I said neither side is good for the economy and if you think business sitting on cash , not hiring and an over inflated stock market because of Fed intervention is good or will end well you are a fool.

It's not just corporate profits that always go up during Democratic administrations, and it's not just the stock market, either. It's also personal incomes, and the overall growth of the economy.

Always. Every time.

If you are voting for the GOP because you think they are better for the economy, the stock market, personal incomes (including your own), or corporate profits, then you are the fool.

If you are voting for the GOP based on their social policies, then you're not only a fool, you are an asshole.

If you are voting for the GOP because of a Negro Kenyan Nigerian Socialist Marxist Muslim, then you are not only a fool and an asshole, but a TeaParty moron to boot.

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Todd

Hank, I already showed you the "surprising" writeups on Fox, Bloomberg, and all the other right wing rags talking about how the economy, and all the rest, is better when the Democrats are in charge.

Your head is up your ass, then stuck in the sand, and you know it...you just can't help that knee jerk reaction to hit "GOP" every time you vote.

You are a fool voting for something that directly counters your reason for voting for it...and you know it. That's why you are a fool.

If you didn't know it, well, then you'd be an ignoramus...the information is out there and easily accessible, and has been shown to you.

You do know it...that's why you are a fool. Or an idiot.

Take your pick.

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Todd

Quit talking about the GOP and Show the class this personal income growth under this admin. Then show the class why the stock market is where it is at and how that benefits them in the long run. Show the class how a reduction in spending power combined with no wage growth for 10 years benefits them. The dens are just as bad as the GOP and people that think otherwise are what's wrong with this country.

A 2001 F350 fully loaded pick up was $32000 in 2001. The same truck cost $55,000 today. Has the average Boeing works comp gone up 70% since 2001?

You guys just keep livin' in the dream...next you'll be telling me that the GOP embraces "Christian" values, too...right?

Right.

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Todd

You are the one living the dream telling people how great things are under dem rule with zero stats to back up the claim. The tea part has nothing on your zealotry.

Just like Hank, you like to ignore whatever is being said and instead insert your opinion of what I am saying, or thinking. Nowhere up there does it say anything of the sort...all it says is that if you are voting for the GOP because any of those economic factors are better under a GOP administration then you are a fool, because you are wrong now, and it has always been wrong if you think that.

That is all.

You can justify it any way you want, just know that you are wrong if you think you are voting for better economic policy, stronger corporate profits, better personal incomes, or a stronger stock market by voting for the GOP.

You are voting against those things if those are the things that lead you to the ballot box.

It's nothing new for GOP voters to vote in direct contradiction to the goals that they claim to support. It is standard GOP voter action to say they want those things, and then to vote for the party that is not as good at any of those things.

Just want to continue to point out to you clowns that if you believe that voting for the GOP will help those goals, then you are wrong. You are wrong now, you have always been wrong, and based on current opinion, you will continue to be wrong.

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Todd

That was a convincing argument. I'm going to vote republican from now on.