That ain't no excuse Kwik. The game was, in fact, one of those one in a million type games from the first snap to the last. Everything went right for the Hawks and they played amazing in all 3 phases of the game - that's not an excuse. An excuse would be blaming the weather (when there was none last night) or Broadway Joe for screwing up the coin toss. It would be hearing that the Donks D had four starters including Von Miller on IR. But you haven't heard anything like that from me - nor will you. You show up to play the game with the players you have and if you get beat bad, don't make excuses....pull up your big boy pants and get better.

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A whiny [Bleeeeep!] is a whiny [Bleeeeep!] no matter how you split it Yo! GO HAWKS!!!!

We thought you were going away for the next 10 months, you only made it one day. How's the other New Year's resolutions going?

Still hasn't found a woman that can tolerate him.


Hank may just be the one for him tho Yo!

Exactly!

ESPN keep talking how this is such a TREMENDOUS upset and HOW could this happen. The focus is all on Denver and Manning the talent, disappointment and necessary rebuilding required to be competitive in the future. They are talking about how Russel is a mediocre quarterback and the defense won the game by capitalizing on Denver's mistake. Tim Hasselbeck just spewed a bunch of crap about Pete, releasing his brother and how we have just been lucky to assemble the bunch of misfits we have Blah... Blah... Blah.

Nothing about how the Seahawks DESERVE this win they earned which is exactly TYPICAL of our success all season. We have been underrated the whole season.

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Considering Elway called them "soft" after the pre-season shellacking we gave them (which looked eerily like yesterday's game while the ones were playing each other in the first half)...if he had anything to say to them yesterday I doubt it was "hey, good effort!".

Or it may have been "hey, good effort!" yesterday, but won't be today, not by a long sight.

Fish on...

Todd

Oh, and this:



Fish on...

Todd

I'm getting tired of all the 'experts' who were polishing Peyton's knob all week now asking if Peyton choked, or who made a bunch of mistakes on the Broncos' side, or blah, blah, blah...

No, Peyton didn't choke...he and his much vaunted offense finally had to play a good defense, and got fuckin manhandled. There wasn't 'bad luck', there wasn't any 'choke'...they rushed the passer, made him move around, and when Peyton is forced to move around bad things happen.

As I noted many times before in this thread, when Peyton throws his usually somewhat accurate wobbly ducks over the middle of the field against marginal defenses he makes 55 passing touchdowns over the year, but when he throws wobbly ducks against our defense, they turn into interceptions.

When he has guys in his face pushing him around, he throws interceptions.

When he gets hit while he's running around back there, he fumbles.

The best thing that happened to the Broncos last night was that the 4th and 2 incompletion that Peyton threw because the ball was tipped would have been another Pick6 if it hadn't been tipped, he telegraphed it the whole way and it just missed being a 90 yard return for a TD.

There was no "perfect storm", and there sure as hell wasn't some "one in a million" game...this was a one in one game, one that happened when the things that make Peyton comfortable as a passer...poor defense, good line play, and yards after the catch...flat out DO NOT happen against our defense.

They'd do it again tomorrow...unless somehow Peyton magically became much more mobile, his line blocked our D line better, and our DB's decided not to plant receivers right where they catch the ball...and those things are pretty unlikely.

This wasn't some one off where the better team had a bad day and the other guys had an all world day...this was a game where the Broncos are not as good as the Seahawks.

The things that make their offense good do not work against the Seahawks' defense. In a head to head matchup, our defense is better than the Broncos offense. Period.

The Broncos' "worst kick coverage in the NFL" special teams cannot stop Percy Harvin, even when they try to kick it away from him...because Percy Harvin and our kick return team are better than the Broncos kicker and kick coverage team.

Everyone is talking, rightly so, about how Peyton did against our defense, but no one is mentioning that our offense also scored two TD's, which is more than the Broncos "Best Ever!" offense did...along with two field goals. Our offense is better than the Broncos defense. Period.

The Seahawks won the coin toss, and it only got worse from there for Denver...they did not do one single thing better than the Seahawks in that game.

There may not be many defenses who can do it, but if a defense can stop the one yard passes right there where they are caught then the Broncos will end up with a lot of third down plays.

If it's third and more than two, and the two yard passes are not getting more than two yards of gain, then they have to throw the ball downfield.

If they have to throw the ball downfield, and you can cover, then Peyton can't get rid of the ball in two seconds...and if it takes more than three seconds, and your D line is better than their O line, then Peyton gets pushed around in the pocket.

When Peyton gets pushed around in the pocket then the wobbly ducks are not accurate, and are instead interceptions.

When Peyton gets hit as he is throwing, then the wobbly ducks become interceptions.

When Peyton is hit before he throws, then it turns into fumbles.

Our defense is good enough to do all those things...yesterday, all season, and next year, too.

Fish on...

Todd

And, as I noted three weeks ago...the NFCC was the SuperBowl, the Niners would have done a lot of the same things to the Broncos yesterday that the Seahawks did. Their LB corps would have planted two yard pass receptions right where they caught the ball, they have great pass rushers, and they have an offense that the Bronco defense would not even come close to stopping.

Fish on...

Todd

One more note...

The Broncos offense is good when Peyton Manning is able to look at the defense, see what they're going to do, and send his receivers or runners into the holes that the defense leaves open.

For the most part the Seahawk defense doesn't need to play that game...because they don't leave many holes open. They just line up and play, and Peyton can yell "Omaha!" or "Evinrude" or "Mommy!" all he wants...they don't bother trying to figure out what Peyton is doing, they just do their jobs and make Peyton beat them.

That being said...anyone noticed what happened on a lot of the pick plays and wide receiver screens that are 0-2 yard passes that become 8-20 yard gains against most teams?

We played zone defense and the guys crossing up on the pick plays were just running around, and then ran right to their defender who was waiting there for them.

Where the fukk was Manning there? Isn't he supposed to be able to figure out what the defense is doing and exploit it?

If he were doing that well last night then there wouldn't have been a bunch of wide receiver screens or two yard pick plays thrown right into the teeth of an effective zone defense...he'd have checked down to something that could have a chance against the zone.

Why didn't he check down? Couldn't tell if it was a zone or a man coverage from the lineup? Maybe, the Hawks line up the same either way, and apparently they guessed pick play or screen and ran the zone better than Manning guessed zone coverage and checked down.

Maybe he just stuck with those plays even if he know the zone defense was sitting right there to stop them...because he knew if he checked into a downfield play the hurry/hit/fumble/intercepted wobbly duck scenario would come into play and figured he'd rather complete a pass for two yards on 3rd and 8 instead of risk another interception or fumble.

Maybe he just couldn't tell what he was seeing.

Fish on...

Todd

Can't argue with that. But nobody saw this coming. I did not hear or read any expert anywhere who predicted a Seahawk blow-out Nobody. That's probably because, on paper, there is not much difference between the two teams. However, the game is not played on paper (I'm not the first person to make that observation). It's played on grass/turf. The Hawks just seemed to be playing at a different level/speed/energy/determination. The announcers made that observation several times. The Broncos were just plain flat. No energy, no emotion, no grit, no execution on O, D, or ST's. Take away all the points the Seahawk offense and Special teams scored, and the Seahawks defense alone still beats the Broncos 9-8.

The Super Bowl has a long history of being lopsided. One team comes out flat while the other team comes out flying. Historically, the AFC team is flat, while the NFC team comes ready to play football. This game was exactly that. There are alot of teams in the NFC that could have done what the Seahawks did. But they weren't there.... The Hawks were. Well played.

They are Champs for 365 days. And hopefully longer. Go Hawks!

No one saw 43-8...but plenty of people saw two or three score wins for the Seahawks, and were shouted down by the "experts" who thought a season of warmup games agaisnt chump defenses was sufficient to beat the Seahawks defense without changing anything up.

A certain Broncos fan that I fished with last week laughed out loud when it was suggested that Peyton Manning will be throwing interceptions if he gets pushed around, and that he will get pushed around because our defense will not allow him to throw the ball in under two seconds all game.

That is, however, exactly how it happened.

The safety on the first play of the game? No one ever sees any safeties coming, and that one was farther out than any other...that's for sure.

Percy Harvin returning a kick for a TD? The Broncos sure saw it coming...they tried to kick it away from him and he still got it and ran it back. The vantage point of the kick during the game was from behind the kicker, and as soon as we saw it was going to be a short kick that bounces to keep Harvin from returning it I was already jumping up and down yelling "Make them pay, Percy!"...and then he did.

Other than Manning being lucky that Clemons tipped that 4th and 2 pass so that he didn't throw another Pick6, the next luckiest thing that happened to the Broncos is that we stopped ourselves on offense a couple of times with penalties, or one or both of those field goals could have been TD's, too. The spot that Carrol challenged in the first half should have probably been a first down, it sure looked like Russell reached the ball several inches farther than they marked it, even after moving it nearly three feet from the terrible spot they first gave him.

This game could have just as easily been 47 or 51 to 8.

Fish on...

Todd

Let's thank Paul Allen for saving this team from moving to Cali! And putting up 200 million dollars of his own money to build the best stadium in the country. Thanks Mr Allen!

Gee Todd, that was a pretty good summary up there. And then you come with more! Got anything else you want to mention? Sure don't want to leave out any details now. Really, couldn't have said it any better.

I'm still wanting to hear the media pundits say that the Hawks really are this good, that it was no glitch on the Bronco's part. I want to hear that the Bronco's played their best game, and that it got them trounced.

I hope he insured that offer.

+1 for Toff.

Nuthin' more really needs to be or should be said past that post.

Chris Carter last night went from "The Broncos are going to win" to "doesn't matter, the Hawks won't be able to keep this team together"...what a fuckin douchebag.

Apparently he gets to check his brain and balls at the door as he walked into the HOF on Saturday.

Fish on...

Todd

Cocaine Chris is a hater.....fuk that doush bag.