Can someone explain to me how our soldiers are fighting for our freedom? if we pulled all troops from Afghanistan or anywhere in the world today how would our freedom be less? To me it seems the the MIC has waged the most successful brain washing campaign in the history of propaganda on the US citizens. If you question this idea you are not a patriot. I can see how they are protecting the economic freedom of our corporations that is clear but does that equal our freedom? Am I less free if I have to pay more for something or I just cannot have it at any price? Constitutionally speaking.

I'm still trying to figure out who you were before your name change.

The ghost of Tom Joad

oh right, thanks. carry on Mr. Joad

This should be on a T-shirt.


'Murica!

Protecting Freedom and promoting Democracy is the guise used to protect American Economic interests. Plain and simple and I think you know that Mr. Joad.

All Recent wars are waged under false pretenses to protect American and English economic interests, Political interests, and last but not least to launder American tax dollars into the Military security industrial complex.


Look at the "Asian Pivot" We have no threats from anyone in the world, yet we are "Beefing up" our presence around China, in lockstep with steps by China and Russia to move off the dollar as the reserve currency for oil and other trading.
Look at the Military Posturing we are doing in the black Sea and Around Ukraine right now. Don't be blind to the real reasons behind these moves.

I know it just wondering what others see. I think people are blinded because of their indoctrination as children. I have noticed it is really ramping up, support for the military and support for police. Btw I on no way hold the soldiers responsible for anything , they are doing a job.

1984?

I am sure you would be OK speaking Canadian (Russian, Mandarin, wtfe), but not me. We should kick ass where asses need to be kicked.

The threat of knowing that crossing that "red line" will bring the wrath and might of the US is a great deterrent (or used to be) .

I hear they are planning to build some really nice Casino's in Crimea.

If the American people really wanted "Freedom" they'd take every politician who says "freedom" or "Democracy" in the same sentence as talking about invading another country to secure it and burn them at the stake.

A country full of sheep who think they are free is what we have.

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Todd

Isnt it funny how the USG cites promoting democracy and freedom as the reason why we intervene with these other countries affairs, all while our freedoms erode daily here at home, and Democracy is all but gone and forgotten on US soil?

Where were you guys when we invaded Iraq over 10 years ago?

I supported it, I was wrong.

Maintenance.
The sun never sets on the US Empire.

However, from the onset, I thought that Iraq was gross misuse of the American military.

Clowning on those who supported it.

You?

Fish on...

Todd

We need to make the distinction of a Politician's justification for war and a Soldier following orders right quick. This debate is not on our Soldiers, rather the Politicians.

Soldiers overseas aren't fighting for OUR freedom. We already have ours. Get it? The only problem is the ones we fight for don't really want it. Like a 16 year old that gets a 3 series from Mommy and Daddy....Freedom is only really appreciated when it’s earned the old fashioned way. You can't just have it handed to you and expect it to work.

This is why we are losing our “Freedoms” everyday here in the US. None of us had to earn it on our home soil. Once enough is taken away, then the Tree of Liberty will be refreshed and the cycle will repeat. The Phoenix doesn't spring from partially burned logs, only ashes.

Oh yeah - one last thought. Soldiers can be Heroes. Cops? Not so much. They are nothing more than paid Jack Booted Union Thugs that couldn't care less about "Serving & Protecting" all the while throwing up the Blue Wall. To me, the only time a cop can be a hero is when he breaks the wall of silence otherwise they are 100% complicit. I learned this first hand and very personally last week. F' Cops (sorry Dogfish)

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Probably being berated by tough guys like Tom Joad who was supporting it.

Sorry Apkd I assumed you were man enough to take it if you were man enough to stick your nose in. Don't act like you knew all along . It took years for the truth about the saudi's involvement to come out and it's only been about a year since the story fully developed. You lined up on the party party line just like everyone else.

And my ears are ringing from your and the test of the lefty stooges loud protest of Obamas action in Libya , Egypt , Syria and Ukraine . Because you are all so fair , righteous and consistent.

Mr Chode, dont you mean since you finally woke up and saw what crimes 'your party' perpetrated? The likes of AKPD, myself, and many other have for at least YEARS been providing evidence to the contrary on this and many other topics. Perhaps your eyes were wide shut, and ears were ringing, ...so loud you couldnt stand hear what anyone else was saying. Maybe because it wasnt the right person saying it, hmm?

Yes, I'm being defensive of my friends here, because your Stereotypes are inaccurate, tired, and old.