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#897685 - 06/16/14 08:49 AM Lost IRS emails
Jerry Garcia Offline



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#897692 - 06/16/14 11:48 AM Re: Lost IRS emails [Re: ]
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We're still on the IRS "scandal"? I thought we'd moved onto Sgt. Bowe Bengazi having to wait at a VA hospital to see if the Obamacare death panel will send him to a FEMA Internment Camp to be taught the religion of Climate Change via Common Core so he can then go steal cows from patriots like Cliven Bundy.

At least that's what my last e-mail said... but if you think I should get re-outraged about the IRS I'm all in.


Edited by topwater (06/16/14 11:49 AM)

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#897698 - 06/16/14 12:54 PM Re: Lost IRS emails [Re: topwater]
chinookie Offline
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Now that's just funny

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#897700 - 06/16/14 01:04 PM Re: Lost IRS emails [Re: ]
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nothing to see here folks, just move along.

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#897702 - 06/16/14 01:17 PM Re: Lost IRS emails [Re: chasbo]
Us and Them Offline
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You should just put your head down and shuffle along like they do in China. How dare one question the honorable government when they are doing their best to make your life easier? Your government loves you and only wants the best for you.


Edited by 43-8 (06/16/14 01:18 PM)
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#897704 - 06/16/14 01:36 PM Re: Lost IRS emails [Re: Us and Them]
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The first thing you need to know about the right-wing media is that it's everywhere. The nation's conservative media money machine is a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of politics, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like Obama.

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#897705 - 06/16/14 01:41 PM Re: Lost IRS emails [Re: Us and Them]
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Any Teenager with a laptop could find those emails. Get a warrant for her email password or whatever, it should be stored in some sort of cloud storage. Such a stupid lie. I don't care if you are conservative or liberal or whatever; is it not obvious how big of lie is going on.

Get the emails from the people she sent them too? It can't be that hard. We have president who uses his pen at every turn to make law...why can't he get a warrant to search her friends and co workers emails? So much for a transparent administration.

If this was republicans trying to target Planned Parenthood...people would be in handcuffs. just sayin'

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#897707 - 06/16/14 01:49 PM Re: Lost IRS emails [Re: topwater]
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Originally Posted By: topwater
The first thing you need to know about the right-wing media is that it's everywhere. The nation's conservative media money machine is a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of politics, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like Obama.



The worst lie you can ever tell is a lie to yourself. When you rationalize not thinking it's all over. You don't have to care or even be interested .
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#897718 - 06/16/14 03:09 PM Re: Lost IRS emails [Re: ]
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Didn't misplace all the emails sent by Lois Lerner, just the ones sent to outside agencies and outside the IRS people.
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#897721 - 06/16/14 04:18 PM Re: Lost IRS emails [Re: ]
Jason Beezuz Offline
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Registered: 11/20/08
Posts: 3419
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Any time Obama fuks up the chattering class chooses to ignore it.


The biggest chatterer here talking about a chattering class. How ironic.

Is Obama responsible for everything that the federal gov does? Seems kind of unrealistic. Every political party uses it's power to further their cause and it isn't as coordinated as some would like to believe.
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#897722 - 06/16/14 04:21 PM Re: Lost IRS emails [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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#897724 - 06/16/14 04:35 PM Re: Lost IRS emails [Re: blackmouth]
Jason Beezuz Offline
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Okay rev blackmouth, I'll play for a second.

Here is how your fox video is propaganda:

They are talking about missing emails of Lois Learner, she works for the IRS, a part of the fed gov, but not a part of the executive branch, obviously.

During the Fox News discussion, the man says the name Nixon multiple times, and says he was brought down with just 18 minutes of tape, not months of emails. Nixon was an infamous and corrupt president who has zero to do with this affair, but bringing him up in this discussion serves to link his kind with Obama.

Do you see how they work you guys up? They bring the president into something he likely has little to do with.

Nixon was being investigated and was hiding tapes and that got his goose cooked.

So far this email thing is fishy, but to bring Obama into this as a direct conspirator, and that this even has anything to do with the president is a huge assumption by Fox News and is certainly how they keep viewers like you.

You guys want Obama to go down so bad you will take any bad thing the Feds do as some evil Obama conspiracy and Fox News know this and makes money by playing along and getting your eye balls for advertising.
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#897726 - 06/16/14 04:40 PM Re: Lost IRS emails [Re: Jason Beezuz]
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Obama had every bit of knowledge as to what the NSA was doing likely, which puts him right in the ranks of Nixon with what was done...

what you need to understand, is that the government including the president, will lie cheat and steal to get what they want, and when they get caught, they will lie cheat and steal about lying cheating and stealing...

its been going on for a while, and Madison, Jefferson, Franklin, Lincoln and the likes all warned us what would happen if we allowed as "the people" for the situations that are now present to exist....
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#897727 - 06/16/14 04:41 PM Re: Lost IRS emails [Re: ]
Jason Beezuz Offline
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: Jason Beezy


Is Obama responsible for everything that the federal gov does?

Yep. That's where the buck stops.

You're part of that "it's Bush's fault" crowd, you should know that.


No I'm not.

I thought Bush was a terrible president who started a bunch of unnecessary and expensive wars. That is about it.

I am a blame the corporations type. Presidents are just whipping boys nowadays to distract people like you from the global empire.
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#897728 - 06/16/14 04:45 PM Re: Lost IRS emails [Re: 5 * General Evo]
Jason Beezuz Offline
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Registered: 11/20/08
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Originally Posted By: Evo
Obama had every bit of knowledge as to what the NSA was doing likely, which puts him right in the ranks of Nixon with what was done...


That is an assumption.

You guys think the president has the time to manage every part of the fed gov personally?

You guys don't think ordinary people will lie and cheat to cover their own asses even when the president isn't involved? Just because their is a cover up doesn't mean the president has anything to do with it.
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#897730 - 06/16/14 04:53 PM Re: Lost IRS emails [Re: Us and Them]
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Originally Posted By: 43-8
The worst lie you can ever tell is a lie to yourself. When you rationalize not thinking it's all over. You don't have to care or even be interested .


A Foxbot scolding someone for not thinking.... funny stuff. How deep is that right-wing rabbit hole?

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#897733 - 06/16/14 05:33 PM Re: Lost IRS emails [Re: ]
Jason Beezuz Offline
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Registered: 11/20/08
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Loc: PNW
Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: topwater
Originally Posted By: 43-8
The worst lie you can ever tell is a lie to yourself. When you rationalize not thinking it's all over. You don't have to care or even be interested .


A Foxbot scolding someone for not thinking.... funny stuff. How deep is that right-wing rabbit hole?

Fox isn't the only conduit for information about this. JG started this thread with a link to the Washington Post. Even one of the lib talking heads at MSNBC doesn't believe Lerner's dog ate the emails.


Yes exactly therefore it must be Obamas fault.

I stepped in dog [Bleeeeep!] at the park this weekend. I think this was a setup and it goes straight to the top:

Dog [Bleeeeep!] --> Nixon --> Obama

It all makes sense now.
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#897734 - 06/16/14 05:38 PM Re: Lost IRS emails [Re: ]
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Standard non thinking from the right and the left is to draw a conclusion and then search out support for that conclusion. If the support they find is not sufficient then they attempt to shout over the top of any discussion and finally resort to name calling. They typically enlist like mined thinkers and create a gang bang against anyone that disagrees with them. Go to any tribal area and study
The indiginous people for the roots of this behavior. TW if you think that your government using its agencies to suppress another political view is OK for either party and refuse to even research it because you smell a Fox News plot I have zero to say to you.


Edited by 43-8 (06/16/14 05:39 PM)
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#897737 - 06/16/14 06:09 PM Re: Lost IRS emails [Re: Jason Beezuz]
blackmouth Offline
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Registered: 11/05/04
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OK, Mr. Beezy, I lifted this from Wikipedia.

"Propaganda is a form of communication aimed towards influencing the attitude of a population toward some cause or position.

Propaganda is information that is not impartial and used primarily to influence an audience and further an agenda, often by presenting facts selectively (thus possibly lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or using loaded messages to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. Propaganda can be used as a form of ideological or commercial warfare.

While the term propaganda has acquired a strongly negative connotation by association with its most manipulative and jingoistic examples (e.g. Nazi propaganda used to justify the Holocaust), propaganda in its original sense was neutral, and could refer to uses that were generally benign or innocuous, such as public health recommendations, signs encouraging citizens to participate in a census or election, or messages encouraging persons to report crimes to law enforcement, among others."


Now, feel free to consider the clip to be propaganda. I prefer to consider it to be opinion, as it was shown in the opinion part of the program. And you should realize that the name Obama or the office of the President was not mentioned. Now if you feel comfortable believing that the IRS is not part of the 'Administration' well OK, feel free to pick your poison.

Now, 'I' was not 'worked up' from the presentation of the opinions, I just thought that it was quite funny when Steve Hayes said that the loss of the Emails "Is unbelievable, and I mean that literally". And yes I can see that President Obama had little to do with it because he told us that he was "mad as hell", and that there was "not a smidgeon of corruption in the IRS". I've also noticed that he seems to have very little to do with anything that go's on in his Administration. I know this because he is constantly telling us that, "I just found about it in the news".

Perhaps it's the believers in Mr. Obama and his Administration, that have been, and are are continuing to be, propagandized.

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#897758 - 06/16/14 09:34 PM Re: Lost IRS emails [Re: topwater]
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Originally Posted By: topwater
We're still on the IRS "scandal"? I thought we'd moved onto Sgt. Bowe Bengazi having to wait at a VA hospital to see if the Obamacare death panel will send him to a FEMA Internment Camp to be taught the religion of Climate Change via Common Core so he can then go steal cows from patriots like Cliven Bundy.

At least that's what my last e-mail said... but if you think I should get re-outraged about the IRS I'm all in.


One of the best thought out posts ever on political subject matter on the Dark Side. We should have an award or something for it. Or at least a drink. OK, thank you, I think I will go pour myself one. It's worth celebrating.

Sg

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