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#909094 - 10/09/14 11:26 PM Re: Flossing: It's the California way [Re: Direct-Drive]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
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If it makes the flossers/snaggers feel better, I don't floss sockeyes in Alaska or in British Columbia, either.

Feel better now?

As a very relevant aside, it's not illegal to floss in British Columbia. It is plainly illegal down here, even if it's hard or impossible to enforce, and no amount of justification for it makes it legal.

Fish on...

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#909096 - 10/09/14 11:29 PM Re: Flossing: It's the California way [Re: Direct-Drive]
ColeyG Offline
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Registered: 02/08/07
Posts: 3076
Loc: AK
Sometimes you have to pick battles you can win. Snagging sockeye will never go away, so the task at hand should be managing that fishery in the most responsible and sustainable way possible.

I'm ok with being attacked, constructively or generally Nor Cal. Keeps me on my toes and prompts some thought that might otherwise be easy to forego.
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#909105 - 10/09/14 11:58 PM Re: Flossing: It's the California way [Re: ColeyG]
Nor Cal Drifter Offline
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Registered: 01/28/05
Posts: 730
Loc: Sacramento, CA
Whether or not it's legal shouldn't matter when the majority (all?) of those that "hate flossers" cite ethical reasons, not legal. Interestingly enough, on the rivers I fish down here where flossing is prevalent, they are hatchery supported systems. Wild spawners were wiped out years ago when they built the dams and blocked access to 99% of the spawning gravel. So all the "hatchery turds" and "AHFMD" types outta be happy the flossers are removing those fish from the gene pool..
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#909107 - 10/10/14 12:12 AM Re: Flossing: It's the California way [Re: Nor Cal Drifter]
blackmouth Offline
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Registered: 11/05/04
Posts: 2572
Loc: right place/wrong time
Originally Posted By: Nor Cal Drifter
Whether or not it's legal shouldn't matter when the majority (all?) of those that "hate flossers" cite ethical reasons, not legal. Interestingly enough, on the rivers I fish down here where flossing is prevalent, they are hatchery supported systems. Wild spawners were wiped out years ago when they built the dams and blocked access to 99% of the spawning gravel. So all the "hatchery turds" and "AHFMD" types outta be happy the flossers are removing those fish from the gene pool..


Have you considered Ideology?
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#909114 - 10/10/14 12:40 AM Re: Flossing: It's the California way [Re: blackmouth]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Purposely breaking fish and wildlife laws is an ethical issue, defending it makes the lawbreaker look kinda stupid, and doing it with fish and game laws is something no "sportsman" would do.

Fish on...

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#909125 - 10/10/14 01:06 AM Re: Flossing: It's the California way [Re: Todd]
blackmouth Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/05/04
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Loc: right place/wrong time
non se·qui·tur noun
noun: non sequitur; plural noun: non sequiturs; noun: nonsequitur; plural noun: nonsequiturs

a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement.

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#909128 - 10/10/14 01:12 AM Re: Flossing: It's the California way [Re: Todd]
Rocket Red Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 02/14/06
Posts: 2533
Loc: Elma
Most of us fish for fun. It really isn't subsistence for 99% of anglers. Especially the ones who buy a license and gear and everything else you need for this stuff.

Flossing is sort of like ordering a steak well-done. It is taking something that can be really good and ruining it. I try not to look down on people who order steak well done, or go a-flossing but it is hard. The best part of fishing is the fishing part, cheating yourself out of that when the fish will attack a lure or bait that you actually are fishing with is a total waste, like a well done steak.
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#909129 - 10/10/14 01:39 AM Re: Flossing: It's the California way [Re: blackmouth]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Originally Posted By: Rev. blackmouth
non se·qui·tur noun
noun: non sequitur; plural noun: non sequiturs; noun: nonsequitur; plural noun: nonsequiturs

a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement.



Stay tuned for the "have you ever driven over the speed limit?" comments, followed by "my tax dollars pay for those fish and I can snag them if I want, I'm entitled to them" argument...it's on page four and I'm surprised those haven't been played up yet. Again.

Fish on...

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#909132 - 10/10/14 08:42 AM Re: Flossing: It's the California way [Re: Nor Cal Drifter]
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Registered: 11/10/09
Posts: 7960
Loc: Vancouver, WA
Originally Posted By: Nor Cal Drifter
Whether or not it's legal shouldn't matter when the majority (all?) of those that "hate flossers" cite ethical reasons, not legal. Interestingly enough, on the rivers I fish down here where flossing is prevalent, they are hatchery supported systems. Wild spawners were wiped out years ago when they built the dams and blocked access to 99% of the spawning gravel. So all the "hatchery turds" and "AHFMD" types outta be happy the flossers are removing those fish from the gene pool..

Hopefully this Black Cloud and its revelers will stay down there.
It's a shame, really.
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#909153 - 10/10/14 02:08 PM Re: Flossing: It's the California way [Re: Direct-Drive]
Nor Cal Drifter Offline
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Registered: 01/28/05
Posts: 730
Loc: Sacramento, CA
You already have it "up there." It's just as prevalent in WA and OR as it is in CA - the title of this thread is inaccurate.
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#909159 - 10/10/14 03:19 PM Re: Flossing: It's the California way [Re: Nor Cal Drifter]
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The Chosen One

Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 13942
Loc: Tuleville
Originally Posted By: Nor Cal Drifter
You'd better ban anyone on here that's ever fished (i.e . Flossed) Sockeye in AK while your at it.


If I got to ban everyone that made a blatantly half brain-dead stupid comment on this board, there would be no one left here.

Except Redhook. And Stam.

I don't have a problem with anyone flossing fish for meat and not sport. Floss your limit and fish and go home. Not a single fish or cast once you've hooked your limit. Catch and release and flossing do not mix, in my book.

Change the regs so that you MUST retain the fish you hook and land.

See. I should be banning myself now for this blatantly half brain-dead stupid comment.
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#909161 - 10/10/14 03:25 PM Re: Flossing: It's the California way [Re: ]
The Moderator Offline
The Chosen One

Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 13942
Loc: Tuleville
Originally Posted By: Banned User
Yes
You should ban yerself...

On general principles....

smile


Good idea.

In my absence, I now bequeath Moderatorship to Todd The Mod.

He's now running the ship boys.

See ya!
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#909162 - 10/10/14 03:47 PM Re: Flossing: It's the California way [Re: Keta]
REV. JER Offline
Parr

Registered: 06/05/14
Posts: 59
Seriously flossing/snagging should be illegal everywhere!!! You're cutting the fish up by ripping through em constantly, you're leaving gear hanging off of em because of your inability to tie a freakin knot and it creates an atmosphere of no respect for the fish/other people/and the environment. I know they die any way and Id rather they nourish the river system than have the eggs taken and the corpse put in your trash can! I will pick on these people relentlessly every time i see em. They are human trash! Its so funny to me how much sass mouth they have to give me when I don't open carry my pistol but when they can see it they just listen to me belittle them mercilessly.

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#909164 - 10/10/14 04:06 PM Re: Flossing: It's the California way [Re: REV. JER]
Barbarosa
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Originally Posted By: REV. JER
Its so funny to me how much sass mouth they have to give me when I don't open carry my pistol but when they can see it they just listen to me belittle them mercilessly.


Just shoot them no good varmint cotton pickin sumbitches an quit yer cryin %%$#%%!!!!!!!^%^$#%$%$!!!!!!

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#909165 - 10/10/14 04:27 PM Re: Flossing: It's the California way [Re: REV. JER]
stonefish Offline
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Registered: 12/11/02
Posts: 5187
Loc: Carkeek Park
Originally Posted By: REV. JER
Seriously flossing should be illegal everywhere!!!


Not quite everywhere......

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#909176 - 10/10/14 05:37 PM Re: Flossing: It's the California way [Re: ]
REV. JER Offline
Parr

Registered: 06/05/14
Posts: 59
That is beautiful. smile Can't complain about that.

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#909177 - 10/10/14 05:40 PM Re: Flossing: It's the California way [Re: REV. JER]
RobertF
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hello banana agree applause

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#909178 - 10/10/14 07:05 PM Re: Flossing: It's the California way [Re: Direct-Drive]
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Registered: 01/11/07
Posts: 4898
Loc: in the mass production zone
Originally Posted By: Direct-Drive
Originally Posted By: Rev. blackmouth
Originally Posted By: Banned User
Make flossers read brewers posts....while staked to a pile of chum carcasses



On an anthill.


In the desert, naked.


don't forget a bottle iof pa just out of reach too. foul
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#909181 - 10/10/14 07:54 PM Re: Flossing: It's the California way [Re: REV. JER]
Keta Offline
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Registered: 03/05/00
Posts: 1083
"Its so funny to me how much sass mouth they have to give me when I don't open carry my pistol but when they can see it they just listen to me belittle them mercilessly."

So you are saying you are a big pussy without your gun and a big dick with your gun?

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#909182 - 10/10/14 08:02 PM Re: Flossing: It's the California way [Re: REV. JER]
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Registered: 11/10/09
Posts: 7960
Loc: Vancouver, WA
Yep, there are good flossers and bad flossers.
She bad.
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