What fuels this is residential burglaries. Break into a house, steal guns, commit crimes with said guns. Rinse and repeat.

Todd,
No where in the 18 pages of this law does it separate shotguns from any other firearm so not only can I not lend you my shotgun I couldn't teach you how to use it at a gun range as safety training is also not exempted.

I'll admit that the spoon analogy was pretty bad. So I'll try again . On the way back from hunting we stopped by the Curlew bar for a beer and some food. So if all four the the rifles that were left in the truck (remember it's illegal to bring a firearm into a bar) were stolen and then used in a crime you believe I should be held accountable?

"Just as I have no problem throwing people in jail who do not secure their firearms and let someone steal/take/"borrow" them and a crime is committed, or a horrible accident happens,"

And all the dumbass comments were re written quotes from state sheriff's comments

A law enforcement officer can state under oath that he/she witnessed you running a red light. Or a camera witnessed it. A law enforcement officer cannot under oath state that a particular firearm was purchased in the state of Wa.

I mean under what situation could a DA even bring charges? We saw them make a sale/transfer in the PD parking lot?? "Are you telling me your neighbor and you drove to Idaho to make this transaction." "yes. :)"

Greg, locking them in your car is "securing them"...leaving a handgun on your dresser where you six and nine year old find it is not.

Fish on...

Todd

That'll never happen. Our courts and constitution value the privacy of the home and vehicles of citizens with the highest regard.

how many crimes are committed by people going to a gun show and getting a firearm there? im not saying its none, and that its not an issue, but wouldnt you rather have an undercover cop in Belltown or down an alley on Jackson vs standing in a gun show?

far more guns used in crimes are bought off the street than at shows...

thats just my opinion tho..

FUK.GOV IN DA ASS! I WILL NOT COMPLY....PERIOD.

FUK.GOV IN DA ASS! I WILL NOT COMPLY....PERIOD.

That's what these guys said:

http://www.komonews.com/news/crime/30-pistols-stolen-from-Lakewood-gun-store-280979482.html

Quantico is a joke, they are the equivalent of what Bullseye was when the AR(s) got stolen and Malvo and company did their sh!t... i went in there 1 time, and i will never return...

this will never happen, a cop couldnt loan his brother who is say also a cop his gun for training, you couldnt rent a gun before you shot it like some shops provide, ect...

its unenforceable, stupid, and anyone that says yes should go talk to DanS....

Ballsy calling that business a joke. It's a veteran owned business that supplies lots of gear to leo and military personnel.

so did/does Bullseye...

Feds did the same thing and people died.

fuk guns all around.

Vote Yes on I-wrk to keep guns out of the hands of the chronically unemployed.

No exemption for Nate.

Fixed it..... being pissed at someone who's gun was stolen and the stealer commits a crime is ridiculous.... Hell with humans armed gaurding the nations capitol someone made it in.

Read the whole sentence...it's only a problem for the owner if they fail to secure their gun.

It's still stolen if you leave it sitting on your coffee table and your front door open while you are drinking a 40 and smoking a Pall Mall on the back porch, and if you do that and someone walks right in and takes your gun then you are a dipshit that deserves to rot for it, too.

If you don't have your firearm under your control then lock it up...it ain't hard.

Fish on...

Todd

I-594 is a faith-based initiative sponsored and supported by folks who need to believe that by passing a law, gun violence will be reduced, regardless of what a logical analysis concludes.

I was taken aback last weekend when my sister told me that she is voting for it, and I know she is not easily deterred from logic. I-594 is probably going to pass because of its strong emotional appeal. This initiative is one further example that logic and emotions are not a good fit.

Sg

Hear Hear

Part of that issue what my point is...the emotional kneejerk jackass reactions by some gun advocates contribute to the problem far more than they help it.

Just read what an IQ 74 dimwit like Sol Dunce wrote above...it's not reasonable gun owners who use facts and logic to make arguments that drive the emotional factors over the facts, it's idiots like Sol Dunce who do...to the detriment of all the rest of us.

It's hard enough to have a reasonable conversation with a sane person about it...but when idiots like Sol Dunce not only yell the loudest but do it while reveling in their idiocy, then we end up getting what idiots like him deserve.

Fish on...

Todd

If you believe a firearm cannot be stolen while "locked up" your wrong.. That was my entire point.... Not that someone left it unattended and it was stolen....

"steal" was your words....


My bother in law had his entire gun safe stolen while him and my sister were out of town on business..... I guess if one of his guns commits a crime they should be punished....