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#926046 - 03/28/15 06:29 AM Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped
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I heard this yesterday.
Some nice, red meat for the opposition if true.
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#926047 - 03/28/15 08:12 AM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: Direct-Drive]
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#926050 - 03/28/15 08:45 AM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: Direct-Drive]
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good i like listening to the assholes whine about her
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#926072 - 03/28/15 12:36 PM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: ]
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Wipe, etc. doesn't need quotes as it is a mainstream verb/word used to describe erasing a hard drive disk.
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#926084 - 03/28/15 03:13 PM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: Direct-Drive]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Listen to Hank - who hangs around here even though nobody gives a fu.ck about his opinion, his drippy cu.nt, the skeezers he claims to have banged, or the charter fishing trips he goes on 4 times a year.

Christ.
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#926095 - 03/28/15 08:51 PM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: ]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Originally Posted By: Hamster
Fifi, do you know what separates you from the other idiots here?


40 IQ points?

Or in your case, 70.
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#926098 - 03/28/15 09:17 PM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: Dan S.]
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#926101 - 03/28/15 09:30 PM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: Direct-Drive]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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lol
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#926106 - 03/28/15 10:14 PM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Fish Prince
"Wiping" is in quotes because it is a nontechnical term, computer experts like myself generally use the more technical term of "delete fukking everything" or DFE for short. Wiping is what you do to your ass. Anyway, with full disk encryption you don't need to erase/wipe/DFE on your hard drive, you just forget/lose your encryption key. "I can't recall my password" or even better "My hardware encryption key device broke/was lost/stolen/ect. when you seized my server" sounds much better than "I erased all the files with a military grade forensic file shredder."


Beige Box Era lingo ^^^


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#926110 - 03/28/15 10:38 PM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: ]
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You crack me up princess. I helped build the building that makes your computer chips and the building(s) for the processers and Microsoft buildings and so on. Can I get, like, a visitors pass on your internet?

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#926116 - 03/28/15 10:51 PM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: erikj]
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Btw, I'm glad you're back. Always fun to read your posts. Keep it coming.

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#926141 - 03/29/15 09:16 AM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: erikj]
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Originally Posted By: erikj
You crack me up princess. I helped build the building that makes your computer chips and the building(s) for the processers and Microsoft buildings and so on. Can I get, like, a visitors pass on your internet?

Yep, many once-proud men have had to don "bunny suits" to build schitt so the geeks can have their toys and playhouses.

Bunny suits in quotes because it's not a technical phrase.
Thankfully, I've never had to partake in this element of Geek's Revenge.

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#926142 - 03/29/15 09:20 AM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: Direct-Drive]
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I worked at Maxtor for 4 years and we made HDD's. Class 100 clean room Bunny Suits and all (I was a once proud man! grin). Then another 8 years spent at MS. There is no such thing as "wiping" a disc clean unless the drive is physically destroyed. If Hillary's drives are still around, they can get at least get some partial data back. However, these are the Clintons we are talking about here. Those drives have been magnetized, shredded, melted and sunken off shore right next to Vince Foster.


Edited by NickD90 (03/29/15 09:21 AM)
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#926145 - 03/29/15 10:32 AM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: NickD90]
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Originally Posted By: NickD90
However, these are the Clintons we are talking about here. Those drives have been magnetized, shredded, melted and sunken off shore right next to Vince Foster.


^^^probably^^^
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#926146 - 03/29/15 10:54 AM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: ]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: Dan S.
Originally Posted By: Hamster
Fifi, do you know what separates you from the other idiots here?

40 IQ points?
Or in your case, 70.

Oh, don't be so hard on yourself, my diminutive little friend. I doubt your IQ is lower by 40 and 70 points respectively.

It's 30 and 60 points lower..tops.

You can also take solace in the fact you're marginally smarter than Sol Dunce. thumbs


lol

I'm sure everyone believes this - especially since you could have gone to Stanford if you wanted and become a physicist or engineer instead of going to community college and becoming a man-handling xray tech like you did instead.

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#926152 - 03/29/15 12:09 PM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: NickD90]
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Originally Posted By: NickD90
I worked at Maxtor for 4 years and we made HDD's. Class 100 clean room Bunny Suits and all (I was a once proud man! grin). Then another 8 years spent at MS. There is no such thing as "wiping" a disc clean unless the drive is physically destroyed. If Hillary's drives are still around, they can get at least get some partial data back. However, these are the Clintons we are talking about here. Those drives have been magnetized, shredded, melted and sunken off shore right next to Vince Foster.

Well lookey here...."Wiping Standards"....
http://www.deletefilespermanently.com/wiping-standards.html

I use DBAN for my utility and DoD 3 pass for my method when I'm in a wiping mood.

Bonus question...
How long would it take, using DoD 3 pass, to wipe an 80 GB HDD ?

Edit:
Guttman 35 pass ?
Takin' it down to smokin' metal.
J FC



Edit:
Hey Hank...
Does Hillary have a beige or black box ?
I'm thinkin' a big, black box.
Nevermind...I don't need to know.




grin
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#926161 - 03/29/15 01:23 PM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: Direct-Drive]
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Originally Posted By: Direct-Drive

Well lookey here...."Wiping Standards"....
http://www.deletefilespermanently.com/wiping-standards.html

I use DBAN for my utility and DoD 3 pass for my method when I'm in a wiping mood.

Bonus question...
How long would it take, using DoD 3 pass, to wipe an 80 GB HDD ?



Agreed - but only as long as secondary & tertiary partitions are also addressed which is not something Joe Public would know about. I would think Hillary's IT folks are up to snuff and I guarantee you that the drives were physically restored. Trust me, Maxtor could still get at least some of your data even after a full "wipe" via a tertiary partition. But why the hassle when a hammer or junk microwave or .308 is guarenteed and way more fun?

Anyway...what difference at this point does it make? grin
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#926164 - 03/29/15 01:41 PM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: NickD90]
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The "woodstove wiping method" is actually the most secure.
After priming with Doug Fir, I use oak or ash for the main burn.



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#926165 - 03/29/15 01:43 PM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: Direct-Drive]
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beer
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#926169 - 03/29/15 01:50 PM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: Direct-Drive]
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This would be news if it was someone other than the next Chosen One.
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#926170 - 03/29/15 01:54 PM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: wntrrn]
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Nah.
Too polarizing and too many chinks in the armor.
She might be able to generate a big cloud of dust and cat hair, though.
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#926241 - 03/30/15 11:44 AM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: Direct-Drive]
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It matters not what is or was on the server, when one can look at every packet of data that ever was sent to or from that server on a network.
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#926243 - 03/30/15 11:49 AM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: Direct-Drive]
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Are you Asserting that encrypted communications are un-encryptable?
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#926256 - 03/30/15 01:36 PM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: Direct-Drive]
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my neighbor thinks that cleaning dust out and re installing XP SP3 on computers he got from the thrift store is "building them".... always trying to show me these P4 "beasts" rofl

getting an 8 core in a few months, have also been thinking about 6 cores but what the hell....
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#926258 - 03/30/15 02:09 PM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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Originally Posted By: Evo
my neighbor thinks that cleaning dust out and re installing XP SP3 on computers he got from the thrift store is "building them".... always trying to show me these P4 "beasts" rofl

getting an 8 core in a few months, have also been thinking about 6 cores but what the hell....


I dont recall anyone asking you what you thought of your neighbor, or what kind of computer you might be getting... But I know we are all glad you got that off your chest.
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#926259 - 03/30/15 02:17 PM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Fish Prince
Depends on the level of encryption but at high enough levels is only computationally practical with quantum level supercomputers that don't yet exist.


Unfortunately, Hillary's Staff were probably smart enough to use a common high-encryption standard, which would be hard to impossible to break..... unless you stored the keys in a cloud server somewhere wink There are ways to break encryption that dont include brute force attacks.

Regardless, Somebody somewhere knows something about the content of the email in her private servers, and it will come out sooner or later.


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#926260 - 03/30/15 02:41 PM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: Direct-Drive]
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it was in reference to FP's recent posts about building computers and usage of internet...

the second part was just me saying something to him wink


as far as encryption being passed, someone somewhere knows how to do it, because someone somewhere came up with it.... and i totally agree we will see it in due time....
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#926261 - 03/30/15 02:53 PM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: Direct-Drive]
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has anyone found out if the drives even work still? the US Government uses degaussers, and are specifically used, and approved by the NSA, using one will totally delete all information and make the drive completely useless just as if you bashed it with a hammer...

so pay attention for a bill or whatnot passed for "memory upgrades" in Clintons neck of the woods.... smile
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#926271 - 03/30/15 05:49 PM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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Originally Posted By: Evo
someone somewhere knows how to do it, because someone somewhere came up with it.....


Uggghhhhh. beathead
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#926273 - 03/30/15 06:33 PM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: Bent Metal]
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And all this "Beige Box Era" mythology can be crushed like a rotten grape by the 10 year old kid next door.



grin



Back on topic....

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#926277 - 03/30/15 07:21 PM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: Direct-Drive]
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thats the point, theres still a "chance", theres also a chance that it gets picked up sooner rather than later.. i brute forced my wifi password with Kali and it cracked it in like 2 hours, it was a relatively easy password tho...

havent tried since then tho as i dont really care about that...

degaussing is the only way you can truely never get caught, and it comes as little surprise that the NSA uses it frequently, and most government officials in the high ups, have ties in the NSA, especially Hillary.... the problem with that is that it renders drives useless, so its easy to know when someone has degaussed a drive... they are expensive tho, even the cheap ones... plus you have to do a certian low level format on the drive to even be able to use it again, and that usually has to be done by a manufacturer, not some guy in his house, or the drive is toast.....
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#926300 - 03/30/15 09:16 PM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: Direct-Drive]
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I think the Darkside has all this security sh!t figured out.

Blather on long enough and even the worlds largest super computer will correctly categorize it as worthless blathering!
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#926304 - 03/30/15 09:40 PM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Fish Prince
That's billions and billions of years to have a 50% chance of brute-forcing it. As Strike Zone would put it, Good Luck.


I got that part. wink
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#926314 - 03/30/15 10:18 PM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Fish Prince
That's billions and billions of years to have a 50% chance of brute-forcing it. As Strike Zone would put it, Good Luck.


Makes sense!

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#926318 - 03/30/15 11:03 PM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: eugene1]
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Originally Posted By: Fish Prince
That's billions and billions of years to have a 50% chance of brute-forcing it. As Strike Zone would put it, Good Luck.


Now could it possibly be that, that is what Mrs. Clinton had in mind?

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#926322 - 03/31/15 05:56 AM Re: Hillary's Server Hard Drives Wiped [Re: Direct-Drive]
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Wouldn't the government snoop, NSA, have the emails stored somewhere?
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